Where is my car key? 63.5>36

[emiliana2010]

Help everybody! I lost my car key and it's the second time it happens. To avoid stressful discussions at home I need to find it asap!

Here's what happened: I parked my car about ten feet away from a garage where I needed to fetch a box. Opened the shutter, walked in, looked for the box, got it, went out. And my car key was gone!
I thought that maybe I placed it on a shelve and left it there, though after having lost my key the first time I became very methodical with keys; I keep them always in their compartment in my purse or in a pocket of my clothes if I need to open and close something right away.

To make a long story short, I looked everywhere to no avail. I called someone to come and drive me home to fetch the spare key, then I searched my car, the garage, my clothes, the curb, the asphalt…

I ended up thinking that the aliens took it! No, just joking.

So I asked the Yi Jing: Where is my car key?
The response has been: 63.5 > 36
Well, I understand that it is somewhere where I cannot see it (36), but the metaphor of the sacrifice of the ox doesn’t spark any light in me beside suggesting to be even more scrupulous in my search than what I have been. But I am going on a limb here.

I then asked: Will I find my car key? (I like to ask predictive questions!)
The response: 14 unchanging.
I take this to mean that “I do have it already”! But where?????????

Please, can anyone help me!

 

[share3]

I believe 63.5 is about simple offerings and gratitude. It's not in the box you fetched from the garage, is it? (I'm sure you looked, but maybe this could trigger something for you.)

 

[becalm]

I feel like it's in a secure place - either the space you cross to get in and out of the car or the space where the garage door opens and closes but it's a dark kind of space - maybe even where the back of the car seat meets the seat.

 

[marybluesky]

Where is my car key? 63.5 > 36

In a dark place. Maybe in the western part of your building? The upper hexagram changes from water to the earth, which makes me think about somewhere between the earth/floor & the fire/heat.

Will I find my car key? 14 unchanging.
You already possess it.

 

[Liselle]

I agree 63.5's saying a huge search expedition isn't necessary. It says not to do that.

That probably seems crazy and nonsensical, but it could be what 36 in the background means. 36 is about the last days of a corrupt, crazy, drunken court (court as in a ruler and his court), in which there was one non-corrupt, non-drunken person (Prince Ji). But if he'd tried to oppose the awfulness, he wouldn't have survived. So he pretended to be as crazy as everyone else, and when the regime folded he was fine.

So I think Yi might be telling you don't panic, don't overturn heaven and earth looking, just bide your time, ride it out, and the key will turn up. I also agree with everyone that that's what 14 is saying. You have it, it's not actually lost. It's just temporarily missing (possibly in a dark, crazy place where you'd never think to look...)

 

[Liselle]

On the other hand, you did ask where to find it, so maybe you'll be able to think of a dark, crazy place? Or a place which could be described by the line? -

'The neighbour in the East slaughters oxen.
Not like the Western neighbour’s summer offering,
Truly accepting their blessing.'

 

[svenrus]

In some kind of a net bag ?

 

[emiliana2010]

Dear Yi Jing friends, thank you so much for all your answers!

Yes, the message that “I already possess it” dawned on me when I got 14 unchanging in response to my question, but the key must be playing hide & seek with me because at the moment there no sign of it.

And yes, I stopped looking for it (it’s not completely true but mostly it is), at least with the frantic, disappointed, frustrated energy that was fuelling me in these past few days.

I still keep reviewing in my mind the car/garage/box scene but no new idea sparks in my mind about where else to look. Definitely the key cannot be in the box since when I took it it was a sealed box.

Today I felt it was ok to ask the Yi a new question, which has been: How to get my key back? and received 43.3 > 58

Huummmm, well, I take it to mean that in spite of what anybody might say, I have to make my own, unique effort and keep looking for the key.
But I am not sure.

Can you help me some more in understanding what the Yi is pointing at?
Thank you!

 

[radiofreewill]

Hi emiliana2010,

So sorry that you lost your car key!

Two thoughts:

~ could you have put the car key on the same key ring, or in the same spot, as you keep the garage door key?

~ and, use a flashlight to look between the seat and the console, and under the seat, as well?

Good luck!

 

[Liselle]

Today I felt it was ok to ask the Yi a new question, which has been: How to get my key back? and received 43.3 > 58

Copying Hilary's translation:
'Vigour in the cheekbones means a pitfall.
Noble one decides, decides.
Goes on alone, meets the rain,
And is indignant as if she were soaked through.
Not a mistake.'

I don't suppose this is very, very literal and rain was actually somehow involved? Or an umbrella, raincoat, boots, or something?

Does the garage have an attendant? Does it have a lost and found? Suppose some nice person found the key, and wanted to help. Is there any logical place they could have taken it or put it?

43 can mean not just making a decision, but declaring, making a declaration. The imagery is of someone appearing before a king, holding up a token and declaring something. I've seen at least one reading where it was a 'king' (another person) who actually made the decision - it was out of the querent's hands, other than to request that the other person decide. So I wonder if the line means not to keep searching over and over again yourself, but somehow to let other people know, and get their help?

Could you post a notice somewhere at the garage, so other people using the garage would know?

The line also advises allowing yourself to get soaked and messy - based on what you said, I wonder if that could possibly mean telling people at home, no matter the "stressful discussions" that might result?

I think that would be in keeping with 43.3, at least. I don't know anything about your household, but what if the key somehow fell out at home, a family member found it, didn't know what it was, put it somewhere intending to ask, and then forgot about it, or something like that? (Obviously I'm making up stories here.)

Here's what happened: I parked my car about ten feet away from a garage where I needed to fetch a box. Opened the shutter, walked in, looked for the box, got it, went out.

Did the shutter need a key to open it? If so, you might've been juggling two keys at once, which could have been awkward.

 

[Liselle]

Hm, well, read another author, get a different opinion.

Copied below is what Jack Balkin says about 43.3. If I only read his commentary, I might not tell anyone. (We're not supposed to rely on commentaries, of course - but on the other hand if we can understand how the author developed it from the actual text, then maybe it's not opinion so much as a defensible take on something that's not crystal clear.)

43 in general is about making a declaration, but sometimes one or more of a hexagram's moving lines are exceptions, or a description of what could go wrong. See for instance 34, Great Vigor - a good thing generally, but some of the lines don't advocate vigor at all, they show what happens with too much.

So this line could mean to just keep going as you've been - alone - no matter how messy it gets. "He travels alone, And mets with rain... No blame." I can see that side. ("No blame" can also be translated as "no mistake / not a mistake.")

Nine in the Third Place
Powerful in the cheekbones.
This brings misfortune.
The superior person is firmly resolved.
He travels alone,
And meets with rain.
He is soaked, angry.
No blame.

“Powerful in the cheekbones” means talking too much or talking at the wrong time. To meet with rain and become soaked means to suffer the indignity of misunderstanding and disapproval from others. You face a difficulty that you must resolve by yourself. In dealing with the problem you may find that you have to use unorthodox methods. You may have to temporarily align with your adversaries or associate yourself with inferior people or elements. This means that you must keep your counsel to yourself. Others will inevitably misunderstand you, and they may criticize you. But if your reasons are correct and your motives are pure, you should not be dissuaded from doing the right thing. In dangerous times it is important to be true to yourself even if others misjudge you. If you persevere and maintain your integrity, you will remain without blame in the end.

Balkin, Jack. The Laws of Change: I Ching and the Philosophy of Life (pp. 442-443). Sybil Creek Press. Kindle Edition.

 

[Liselle]

Here's what Bradford Hatcher has to say. Again, you're alone, you get wet. The advice seems to be to greet that, not think of it as displeasure. "Nothing is wrong."

I can't relate his commentary parable to a lost key, but maybe you can.

'Vigorous in the cheekbones
Presuming the worst
The noble young one is resolved and decided
All alone in advancing, to greet the rain
As if getting wet
Were displeasure
Nothing is wrong'

43.3x 'The noble young one (is) resolved (and) decided: In the end no harm (is) done'

The relentless pursuer and the fugitive he pursues wear almost identical faces: too strong in the gaze, looking stubborn and obsessed, suspiciously nervous and tense. Their expressions of dark and mysterious purpose are not all that hard to confuse, except with each other. Both end their days much bespattered, and the subjects of much muddled gossip. The fugitive tries to look and act like a lawman, while the gendarme wants to think like his criminal. The signals they give are odd and unclear. Bystanders cannot decide who is who. They develop a very close bond in this way. This obsession of course has a purpose, hopefully one with an end and no future. Here and now is limited living and no place to be. This bad-looking hombre, with his wet-dog smell and his stubble, will not see the good life until the trial is over.

 

[rosada]

43.3 Sounds like your unconscious is being really bratty and refusing to reveal to you the where abouts of the damn key. Well two can play this stupid game! If your unconscious wont tell you where it is announce that from now on you will friggin' walk even if it's raining! I bet that'll get the elves to get motivated to do their job and low and behold, the key materializes before the first drop of water hits the pavement!!!

 

[Liselle]

And for good measure here's LiSe, who seems to say if you move alone, encounter rain, get soaked, and meet with displeasure, you're still "without misfortune."

9 at 3: 'Vigor in the face has pitfalls.
The noble one is very resolute in moving alone.
Encountering rain, overwhelmed by soaking, meeting displeasure.
Without misfortune.'

To be unique is to be never understood. To be unique is to be alone. You are the only person in the world who can be you, so you have to do it all by yourself. Everyone else will make you something else. (Changes to hex.58)

 

[Liselle]

I like Rosada's advice. Begone, ye cloud.

 

[emiliana2010]

Thank you Liselle, for taking the time and energy to look into my little but nevertheless “big” problem.

I have to say that there was no rain aspect involved the day I lost the key, no garage attendant – it is a private garage – and no other key or keyring out of place.

It’s interesting the “declaration” aspect of 43 that you are pointing out to me. I will print a note to post in a strategic place next to the garage inviting whomever, by any chance, has found a car key, to connect with me. Yes, it could be a good move.

No point in talking about it at home, since I arrived at the garage with my regular car key, and left with the spare one!

Thank you again Liselle , I’ll keep you posted
Emiliana

 

[emiliana2010]

Hi Rosada, I hope the elves will take care and surprise me with shining a beam on my car key. It MUST be somewhere, right?
Emiliana

 

[Liselle]

I ended up being highly confused about the declaration stuff! I'm not sure what Yi's saying about that. Maybe just to keep going as you are, alone, no matter how messy it feels - I don't know.

If you feel squeamish about posting your phone number, certainly don't do it because you think I said Yi said to - only do it if you think it's a good idea. (Which should always be the case anyway, going by what you think, not by what people say on a forum.)

I do hope it turns up soon.

 

[svenrus]

emiliana2010

When (!) You find it... Do You think You'll remember to turn back here and tell how it happened and where ?

​

PS: My experience on this website is that one case after the other are posted and often ends unsolved or rather un-updated

 

[emiliana2010]

Hi again Liselle! The people living in the hood where this garage is, know me, so in my post is enough to write to inform me if anybody finds a car key. I could actually go and talk to each of them in person, but I have to put into account that all will be offering "a good cup of coffee", and I should be able to drink (or refuse) them! No need to give my phone number.
Thanks for your caring!
Hugs
Emiliana

 

[emiliana2010]

Hello svenrus! Yes, yes, yes, I am a big fan of updates and feedbacks. I find it very precious when people come back to the forum and give us the rest of the story about how things went.
All the best!

 

[svenrus]

Thank You for reply on this. When I wrote "...... tell how it happened and where ? " it wasn't meant in a geographical sense, but "where" in a physical or "art-of-location-sense". Just to avoid misunderstandings concerning that.

 

[emiliana2010]

Svenrus, it comes to my mind another time when I lost a bundle of keys. I asked the Yi Jing where to find them and received 51 unchanging. As you can imagine, I felt confounded. I thought then that hex 51 looks like two baskets piled up together, and to make a long story short I found my keys in a bag that was piled up with another bag, perfectly reproducing the image of hex 51!
Unfortunately this time the imagery is not so clear to me...
Hugs again!

 

[svenrus]

Many years ago I had a book by the author Hua Ching-Ni who, for every hexagram, has a prediction whether things could or could not be found. I found him too excentric for my personal taste and do not have his book in my possession any more. I do thou have Sherrill and Shu's book An anthology of I Ching *) and I can quote their list of attributes to the trigrams Li and K'an (The Clinging and the Abyssmal, Lower and Upper trigrams of hex. 63) concerning places (in case You haven't allready got their book):
Li: Light Houses-Airway beacons-Schools-Theatres-Court houses-Scenes of fire-Department stores-City streets at night.
K'an : Rivers-Wells- Convalescent houses-Waterworks-Hospitals-Funeral parlours-Brothels-Waterfalls-Hot springs-Bars-Liquor stores.

I have quoted directly from their book here and if some of it can ring a bell maybe it'll be OK ?

*) An anthology of I Ching, W.A. Sherrill and W.K. Shu, Arkana, 1989, app. A

 

[emiliana2010]

Thank you svenrus! Unfortunately, none of the listed meanings rings any bell in me. Maybe it's not so farfetched to think that the aliens, or the elves, took it!

 

[svenrus]

OK, I once lost my keys (This I referr to on #3 in THIS old thread) and found them and I hope You will too

 

[emiliana2010]

As per today, no sign of any key!

 

[Liselle]

Okay, am re-thinking.

So I asked the Yi Jing: Where is my car key?
The response has been: 63.5 > 36

I then asked: Will I find my car key? (I like to ask predictive questions!)
The response: 14 unchanging.
I take this to mean that “I do have it already”! But where?????????

New hypotheses: your readings mean your key is gone forever (63, After Completion, done, over with - 36, Prince Ji survived but the dynasty didn't), but you should be happy you have a spare (14).

(Maybe possibly consider - after the world is safe to do such things - making a spare for the spare, but I'm not getting that from the reading.)

It might still turn up. Hilary says 63 and 64 are in the weird order they're in because Yi's making a rather joke-y point that things are cyclical and there's not necessarily always a final end - "keep on beginning."

But in mundane real life that's not always literally true. Sometimes lost things are never found, or they're found much too late to do their owners any good.

This purse was lost behind a locker in the 1950s. Its contents reveal what high school was like then

The purse belonged to Patti Rumfola, who graduated from Hoover High School in 1960. The school now currently serves as North Canton Middle School.

www.usatoday.com

Poor Patti Rumfola died in 2013, never having found her purse.

 

[Liselle]

...I've changed my mind again.



I think 63 could mean you won't find it, and 14 could mean "you have all you need," which in this case could mean the spare key. But after second- and third-guessing again, I don't see how 63.5 could mean you'll never find it. The moving line always takes precedence over the hexagram.

63.5 is more about finding some way to get by during a bad time, until conditions change. The spare key helps you do that, like pretending to be drunk and crazy helped Prince Ji. But then conditions did change, his bad environment was gotten rid of, and he could be himself again.

 

[rosada]

I just found the missing lid to a can of baking powder between the pages of a cookbook. Read any good books lately?