Why do people consult the I Ching?

[rosada]

Recognizing that people consult for a a cazillion different personal reasons, I thought I tried to see if I could stump the I Ching by asking an impossibly huge question...

Why do people consult the I Ching?

7.1.4 - 54.

7.1 People consult the I Ching in order to be in alignment with The One Whom We Should Follow before leaving the bargaining table and going out into the real arena where everyone is fighting for their lives.

7.4 People consult the I Ching in order to make corrections, realign With The One Whom We Should Follow, after we have gotten lost.

54. People consult the I Ching when no one knows anything about what we're getting ourselves into and it's best to at least have a known tradition to follow.

Thanks, I Ching..:bows:

 

[Tim K]

7.1 → 19 (Approaching), Richmond:
The army requires correct orders or there is disaster.

7.4 → 40 (Liberation), Richmond:
The army withdraws. No blame.

They want to avoid making errors, to get more information before making a choice.
It's a natural consequence of the fear of failure.

They want 19.4 → 54 (Inferior Position), Richmond: Perfect approach without error.


On the other hand, just by looking at hexagrams, there is again 7 - trying to be in control, to lead instead of surrendering[54] to the God's will.

Maybe in time they will
54, Daniels:
Realise that control is difficult. <--
Expect a change of status or situation.

 

[rosada]

Is Ashteroid related to Arachnid? You wove that together with the grace of a spider!

 

[Trojina]

Recognizing that people consult for a a cazillion different personal reasons, I thought I tried to see if I could stump the I Ching by asking an impossibly huge question...

Why do people consult the I Ching?

7.1.4 - 54.

7.1 People consult the I Ching in order to be in alignment with The One Whom We Should Follow before leaving the bargaining table and going out into the real arena where everyone is fighting for their lives.

7.4 People consult the I Ching in order to make corrections, realign With The One Whom We Should Follow, after we have gotten lost.

54. People consult the I Ching when no one knows anything about what we're getting ourselves into and it's best to at least have a known tradition to follow.

Thanks, I Ching..:bows:

Why not ask "why do I consult the I Ching ?" . You see I think every single answer you get is addressed to your own consciousness. So to ask about 'they' and why do 'they' do things is an imagined attempt to put yourself and your own consciousness behind every human consciousness there is. It cannot work like that IMO since your consciousness always has to be taken into account in any answer. You cannot abstract yourself from it, you are it.

Hence to me this answer is about your project, your mission to ascertain why people consult Yi. So that's the 7, it describes your aim. 7.1 asks you where you are really going with this and 7.4 suggests you pull back from the question for a reassessment or a break in thinking of it. I think 54 might show your position in regard to the mission.

There are many ways to see it. I wouldn't claim that is what it's saying but neither do I see your take as what the reading is saying. There could be numerous takes on it as there always is on abstract questions or political questions where the questioner attempts to remove themselves from the answer. My view is that Yi is primarily for use for your own work, your own life, to gain clarity through viewing your own life via the answers. Once a person starts to ask about what others are doing I see them as getting rather lost. That's just my own view, I realise you differ and that's fine. But coming back to the yes/no thing for me a yes/no question is far more real and immediate when it involves the questioner, than a question about the whole world or why people do things and so on. I don't feel we are ever meant to wholly remove ourselves from the question. Even when we ask about outer things in our lives and get clear answers those outer things are related to our lives.

I rarely engage with political questions because of course the answer will be addressed to the consciousness of the one who asked it. Another who asked the same question would get an entirely different answer. An experiment we ran years ago was when a number of people asked the same question about a war. I don't think we got far though as such questions always end up inevitably about the politics more than the reading or the person will make the reading fit their own subjective view of the politics.

 

[Trojina]

Oops wrong thread. I thought this post was still in this thread http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?21474-Why-do-people-do-this-32-3-4-6-29 and answered as if we were still on the yes/no thing. Never mind.