Worried, stay or leave class? Hex 42.1.6 > 8

[jp78]

Context: Worried about class. I am taking a class this semester which I thought would not be too bad, but the professor seems extremely strict and the TAs hours seem to conflict with my work schedule. I tried to find a tutor outside class, but it has proven challenging so far. I have a few days left to withdraw and get some of my tuition money back, but the drawback is I will have to take an alternative class in the fall, and I wanted to get this out of the way. It's been forever doing this while working and hard. The risk is the professor has no problem deducting big points from assignments for small mistakes and does not allow any use of outside sources for help whether online or in person. I am lost on what to do, as you can see all the questions I asked the i-ching since I was worried, but I am not sure based on my questions if it’s best I leave the course.


(Feb 7th today) What is the best thing for me to do regarding class? Hexagram 42.1.6 > Hexagram 8

Be selfless, and unite with others (hexagram 8) to be successful.

(Feb 4th) What will happen with this class? Hexagram 22.1.3 > 23

Either means stripping away any doubts I have or that no help is on the way so I leave.

(Jan 29th) How would I do if I stayed in class? Hexagram 23.3.4 > 56

I am “among the overthrowers” and I am kicked out or don’t do well?

(Jan 29th) What should I do regarding class? Hexagram 23

I should leave.

 

[Liselle]

Thanks for posting all of your readings, in order, with the dates. That's helpful because things like this are a conversation, and it's good to know all of it.

Having said that, I don't feel like I understand it very well. (Sorry.)

I agree with your interpretation of the first 23. "Strip it away." It's worth noting that 23 things are often really painful. Seems like this decision certainly is that.

The second one doesn't sound promising, either. Line 3 repeats "Stripping away. No mistake," and 23.4 as an answer to "How would I do if I stayed?" does not sound pleasant.

"What will happen with this class?" - how did you mean that? Was it more or less a repeat of how will you do if you stay in it? Were you asking for a picture of what you'll eventually decide? Did you mean "How will the professor and TAs handle things over the whole semester?"

22.1 might confirm you won't get much help, as from a carriage. The professor won't change his mind about help - you won't be able to make much use of the TAs - and so on. It does say "making your feet beautiful," so I suppose if you think you can do that, complete it successfully on your own without much help, then...

22.3 -
'Beautiful, as if dipped in water.
Ever-flowing constancy, good fortune.'

One way people look at this is that the thing you're asking about is like a rock dipped in water. A wet rock is beautiful, all glossy. But it doesn't stay like that unless you keep dipping it in water, otherwise it dries and just looks like a rock.

What do you think the water might be? Do you have enough of it, enough "ever-flowing constancy," to keep things looking pretty?

"Looking pretty" might possibly also mean avoiding the small mistakes your professor seems to like to hammer on. 22 in general is about small things: "Beauty. Creating success. Small yield from having a direction to go."

Do you think that could mean your grade? Would you be satisfied with a mediocre grade just to get the class over with, or would you rather drop it, take a different class later, and maybe do better? You can "create success" if success is a small yield, not a big one.

I also wonder if Yi has segued from advising you to drop it, to explaining what you can hope for if you keep it. This is obviously a hard decision.

42.1.6 to 8 - I feel like I'm getting more lost, sorry. 42's 8 - pouring more and more into an experience of Seeking Union. The lines explain how that will likely go.
42.1 -
"Fruitful to use this to make great beginnings.
From the source, good fortune, no mistake."

What do you think "this" is? Fruitful to use what, exactly? I wonder if it's your reluctance to drop it? Do you think Yi might be saying something like, "Alright, if you stay in it, you'll have to really pour a lot in"?

It might be worth noting that 42.1 by itself changes to 20. 20 is about Seeing, and being objective. Specifically seeing from a high vantage point, observing from the outside. Maybe actually try that: think about the bird's eye view of this. Does that help at all?

"From the source" is in both 42.1 and 8. Seems to me it might mean really examine why you're asking these questions and having trouble deciding - go back to the source of your dilemma.

Maybe something like I mentioned before - what's more important, getting it done and out of the way, or getting a high grade? Maybe that's not the choice - obviously I have no idea - but try to drill down to what the choice is really about.

42.6 is pretty stark. Maybe you have a choice between 42.1 and 42.6, with 8 as their joint background.

'Absolutely no increase in this,
Maybe someone strikes this one.
The heart’s foundation is not lasting.
Pitfall.'

If you don't go one way or the other, and fast (8), you could end up with "absolutely no increase" and being struck down.

I suppose the worst possible outcome is you don't drop the class, and then you fail it. Do you think that could happen?

 

[jp78]

Thanks for posting all of your readings, in order, with the dates. That's helpful because things like this are a conversation, and it's good to know all of it.

Having said that, I don't feel like I understand it very well. (Sorry.)

I agree with your interpretation of the first 23. "Strip it away." It's worth noting that 23 things are often really painful. Seems like this decision certainly is that.

The second one doesn't sound promising, either. Line 3 repeats "Stripping away. No mistake," and 23.4 as an answer to "How would I do if I stayed?" does not sound pleasant.

"What will happen with this class?" - how did you mean that? Was it more or less a repeat of how will you do if you stay in it? Were you asking for a picture of what you'll eventually decide? Did you mean "How will the professor and TAs handle things over the whole semester?"

22.1 might confirm you won't get much help, as from a carriage. The professor won't change his mind about help - you won't be able to make much use of the TAs - and so on. It does say "making your feet beautiful," so I suppose if you think you can do that, complete it successfully on your own without much help, then...

22.3 -
'Beautiful, as if dipped in water.
Ever-flowing constancy, good fortune.'

One way people look at this is that the thing you're asking about is like a rock dipped in water. A wet rock is beautiful, all glossy. But it doesn't stay like that unless you keep dipping it in water, otherwise it dries and just looks like a rock.

What do you think the water might be? Do you have enough of it, enough "ever-flowing constancy," to keep things looking pretty?

"Looking pretty" might possibly also mean avoiding the small mistakes your professor seems to like to hammer on. 22 in general is about small things: "Beauty. Creating success. Small yield from having a direction to go."

Do you think that could mean your grade? Would you be satisfied with a mediocre grade just to get the class over with, or would you rather drop it, take a different class later, and maybe do better? You can "create success" if success is a small yield, not a big one.

I also wonder if Yi has segued from advising you to drop it, to explaining what you can hope for if you keep it. This is obviously a hard decision.

42.1.6 to 8 - I feel like I'm getting more lost, sorry. 42's 8 - pouring more and more into an experience of Seeking Union. The lines explain how that will likely go.
42.1 -
"Fruitful to use this to make great beginnings.
From the source, good fortune, no mistake."

What do you think "this" is? Fruitful to use what, exactly? I wonder if it's your reluctance to drop it? Do you think Yi might be saying something like, "Alright, if you stay in it, you'll have to really pour a lot in"?

It might be worth noting that 42.1 by itself changes to 20. 20 is about Seeing, and being objective. Specifically seeing from a high vantage point, observing from the outside. Maybe actually try that: think about the bird's eye view of this. Does that help at all?

"From the source" is in both 42.1 and 8. Seems to me it might mean really examine why you're asking these questions and having trouble deciding - go back to the source of your dilemma.

Maybe something like I mentioned before - what's more important, getting it done and out of the way, or getting a high grade? Maybe that's not the choice - obviously I have no idea - but try to drill down to what the choice is really about.

42.6 is pretty stark. Maybe you have a choice between 42.1 and 42.6, with 8 as their joint background.

'Absolutely no increase in this,
Maybe someone strikes this one.
The heart’s foundation is not lasting.
Pitfall.'

If you don't go one way or the other, and fast (8), you could end up with "absolutely no increase" and being struck down.

I suppose the worst possible outcome is you don't drop the class, and then you fail it. Do you think that could happen?

Hi Liselle,

Thanks for the lengthy and comprehensive response. The question “What will happen with this class?” has more to do with my grade passing (C) or failing (F), as at this point I don’t care about if my GPA takes a hit since I can afford it. I guess I did not word that well. The questions before February were asked before I received the 2nd assignment, which was a huge bump in difficulty. I have sought out help externally online, but it’s typically people who want to do the assignment in exchange for money instead of tutoring and sometimes they end up copying stuff from the internet which could get me in trouble (a zero on the assignment) even if the assignment is completed in time.

The rock dipping in water, is me relying on people externally when I get stuck to help which really just ends up with them doing the work for me because they want money. I hate it because goes against my values/principles and defeats the purpose of taking the class, but it saved me in one of my most difficult required classes while I was able to retain a decent grade and learn from that one tutor at the same time. I had no choice because there was no one to help me while I was struggling. I am okay with a mediocre grade to just be done with it, and the 1st withdrawal deadline is next Tuesday for 50% refund while the next one is first week of March which is only 25% refund. I suppose that is what the'act fast" might mean. I was honestly never the best student and hated the structure of exams, grades higher education – so much emphasis on grades rather than learning.

 

[my_key]

(Feb 7th today) What is the best thing for me to do regarding class? Hexagram 42.1.6 > Hexagram 8

42 <> 8: Replenishing through Seeking Union
Look elsewhere to discover the thing that will restore your resources to a rightful level.

(Feb 4th) What will happen with this class? Hexagram 22.1.3 > 23

22 <> 23: Adorning through Falling Away
You'll start with a blank piece of paper and continue to be wrapped up in the decay.

(Jan 29th) How would I do if I stayed in class? Hexagram 23.3.4 > 56

23 <> 56: Falling Away through Travelling
You'll increasing feel like a stranger in a strange land and become increasingly aware of the rottenness and decay in the situation.

(Jan 29th) What should I do regarding class? Hexagram 23

Be kind to yourself and seek solid foundations on which to counter the decay that embraces you.

...or it might mean nothing like this

Good Luck

 

[jp78]

42 <> 8: Replenishing through Seeking Union
Look elsewhere to discover the thing that will restore your resources to a rightful level.

22 <> 23: Adorning through Falling Away
You'll start with a blank piece of paper and continue to be wrapped up in the decay.

23 <> 56: Falling Away through Travelling
You'll increasing feel like a stranger in a strange land and become increasingly aware of the rottenness and decay in the situation.

Be kind to yourself and seek solid foundations on which to counter the decay that embraces you.

...or it might mean nothing like this

Good Luck

Hmm, thanks, there's a lot of decay in there. I do feel pretty depressed looking at the assignments, as they are way beyond my current level of ability and I am competing with people much more experienced and younger than me in many cases. Nonetheless, I sort of need to get this or some class out of the way, I don't have much of a choice - I mean I could withdraw now or a little later - but just still confused. Leaning towards putting myself through hell until May to hope things turn out okay. For whatever it's worth, I did ask twice "How my grade will turn out?" and received Hex 5.5. > 11 the first time and Hex 3.1 > 8 the second time, so my hope is it will be okay as indicates some patience and difficulty.

 

[jp78]

I am following up with my end result. The class was incredibly hard and I had to hire tutor to help me with my assignments otherwise I would have failed like the other half of the class. Even when the tutor was writing the code with me for the assignement, I felt like it was "eating away" at me and I felt "dizzy" just trying to follow all the code and the logic, it was a voluminous amount of material and tough grading but with the mentor I made it out okay. I would never have been able to be successful in the class with the addtional help given difficulty, mindset, and volume of material and work. I learned a lot, but I questioning my career path now if this is right for me.

I tend to forget to update the results, I think it would be nice if there was an email reminder for the poster to update the audience with the results/outcome so others can learn from it.

 

[my_key]

Hi jp78
It sounds like you had a really tough time and found resourceful ways to attain this qualification, especially as many others failed. Well done!
Your feedback seems to align pretty much with what Yi was saying to you in your 4 readings. Plus i think the last two which perhaps more deeply asks about what will be your perspective at the end of the course be.

For whatever it's worth, I did ask twice "How my grade will turn out?" and received Hex 5.5. > 11

5 <> 11
Your sacrifice has been made and ending the course will turn out to be a pointer towards a new harmony in your life.

the first time and Hex 3.1 > 8 the second time, so my hope is it will be okay as indicates some patience and difficulty.

3 <> 8
A birthing pain on the road towards what you really seek.

... or these interpretations might mean nothing like that at all for you.

Good Luck