Would X try to commit suicide again? ? and Yi's answer, 27.1.5.6 to 8.

[Albatross]

A friend left a letter with the reasons because he had commited suicide. But the family found him and put him in clinic

Would X try to commit suicide again? ? and Yi's answer, 27.1.5.6 to 8

I understand from the answer that he should not search for the "sense of life" like the regular people expect, people around him; but old habits doesn't die. I don't sure if he will be able to look for a new way of asumming his life. May be that is the meaning the related hexagram he must understand the way he is important for his family.

 

[ontheroad]

Looks like he won't but he will look at ways to get away from his pain.

 

[tuttochiedebellezza]

A friend left a letter with the reasons because he had commited suicide. But the family found him and put him in clinic

Would X try to commit suicide again? ? and Yi's answer, 27.1.5.6 to 8

I understand from the answer that he should not search for the "sense of life" like the regular people expect, people around him; but old habits doesn't die. I don't sure if he will be able to look for a new way of asumming his life. May be that is the meaning the related hexagram he must understand the way he is important for his family.

Maybe he has to learn how to feed himself and ask help

 

[thisismybody]

Similar to the above, I see it as obtaining nourishment through seeking union. Perhaps he experiences connection in the face of the loneliness and terror he’s been experiencing and it affects the possibility one way or the other. So maybe he receives that nourishment, or he doesn’t.

Edit: I’ll add that often people want to leave because of a deep feeling of loneliness and separation that creates terror. They feel so separate and alone that they think leaving will provide respite from this. Connection with their core self, union within, changes this. They begin to heal because they begin to experience love. Love for self and others and then even love from others. Often those who feel so separate can’t feel love that’s there for them.

So maybe the clinic helps him make this connection with himself and/or others?

 

[Albatross]

So maybe he receives that nourishment

The problem with Seeking Union (8) is that every person has a different way to stablish connection or to delay that connection. For example, I was reading about the way a couple commicate, the wife was resting after she gave birth, and his husband was complaining all the time that she didn't give so much attention and so on. The wife said something like "Well I bear your child, in this moment I don't have time for other child. You choose, you can complain more or help me with other stuff".

Maybe he has to learn how to feed himself and ask help

The point of the story is that I could think that people is able to see the need of the person in front of them or that they will notice the attention they receive, but if we have a "weak muscle" to perceive what people around are giving us or asking for, may be the union will be harder.

 

[thisismybody]

True. Ultimately, we can’t control another’s ability to perceive the love that’s there, or if a connection is smooth. We all see through our individual lens. We can just try as best we can. I don’t think Yi is saying if he will or won’t try it again. That’s changeable.

I think Yi is saying, it all depends on the energies of nourishment in terms of connection. That can simply be his union with himself. His connection with his purpose for being here. If he feels life is empty, and feels he nourishes none and is being nourished by no one and not even by life, he may seek escape again. One can’t be sure of that. It’s his journey. Pray for him. Send love. Hold him in your heart. If you feel you must do something, feel into what that is, or ask Yi for a reflection of what you can do to help him.

That he left a letter says to me he’s asking for help, that there is something that can be improved.

 

[Albatross]

I took strength to make an interpretation

Thought that 27 refers to the current situation, I think. "A noble one reflects on his words in conversation" is the reflection of the inner self; it is an allusion to the letter. It's how he sees his relationships and how he includes himself in them, like a burden.

The answer that I think comes closest to what I was hoping for in this situation is about how to reconnect with others. Which ultimately is his perception of his relationships.

we can’t control another’s ability to perceive the love that’s there, or if a connection is smooth. We all see through our individual lens. We can just try as best we can. I don’t think Yi is saying if he will or won’t try it again.

It all depends on how he can reconnect with what he has had in his life.

That can simply be his union with himself. His connection with his purpose for being here. If he feels life is empty, and feels he nourishes none and is being nourished by no one and not even by life, he may seek escape again. One can’t be sure of that. It’s his journey.

The line in 27.1 says

Abandoning your spiritual tortoise, you watch my moving jaw - this is unfortunate.

I think that's what I felt when I read the letter. Any symbolic connection to the life around him was abandoned, it blew my mind ("my moving jaw"), I don't think it is only the religious sense but what we build with others. It is dangerous to forget that we are not alone.

Line 27. 6 He nurtures all below him. With fortitude comes auspiciousness, etc.

It is how we forget the way others "benefit" from us. We think that we are only important in the way we offer material sustenance to others. We need to remember what we offer to other people.

27. 5 It violates normal way of doing things. Should he stay firm, there will be good fortune. He may not cross the big river.

I wouldn't know what to say about it. Maybe the fact that he could not "cross the big river" can show him that doing the things he normally does can take on a new meaning.