This mail refers to ?Friends' Area: When will the goods arrive? October 26, 2002 - 05:37 pm.

For me the relation between a line and the corresponding changing line of the relating hex. was always self-evident. I saw many correspondences, and when I consulted the Yi, it always helped a lot. One line was often obscure, but the two relating ones explained each other mutually.
In Bradford Hatcher?s book (excellent!) I found for the first time a confirmation. I copied what he says about it. He even coined a term for it, so now I can finally call it by its own name.

?Zhi Gua? is the old term for a hexagram?s (changing) line. We say 32 line 5, but the Chinese did not give them numbers. 32 line 5 was ?Heng zhi DaGuo?: Heng its DaGuo. Zhi also has a meaning like ?go-to?, so it is both, its and the direction.
Even when more than one line changes, they are all separately called by their ?relating-hex-name?, so I think they ?are? this aspect of the hexagram.

Bradford Hatcher:
?Zhi Gua is the second most overlooked of the original Yao Ci dimensions. The most overlooked is that two Yao Ci form a resonant pair when they have a reciprocal Zhi Gua relationship, that is, they meet on a path while moving in opposite directions, with each one coming from the other?s destination. This dimension is so neglected that I have had to coin a term for it: Fan Yao (Reverse Line) Pairs. These pairs will often share vocabulary elements, cross-references, subjects, or grammatical tone, voice and mood?.

Bradford gives a long list of the clearest examples, and an explanation for 8 of them. I add one:
* 32.5 This may be the most explicit of all of the Yi?s fan yao references, and still it goes unnoticed. For who the woman and man are, see the yao ci at 28.5.

LiSe

Hi LiSe and Brian.

Thank you for influencing me to take another good look at the relating change line. Brian, I, like yourself and for a long while, have focused exclusively on the original hexagram with change lines and then relating hexagram, sans change lines. Adding more elements, I thought, would only serve to potentially confuse a clear answer. After reading your posts, I?ve gone back to the last three readings I?ve had, all relating to the same basic situation. I relate them here:

38:6 to 54
28:3 to 47
32: 2,3 to 7

Its pretty amazing to me, I must say. Rather than confuse the issue, it served to clarify it. Still, I?m drawn to a minimalist view. Maybe I?m just not very smart and its a way I can get hold of the idea with as few moving parts as possible. Maybe I?m lazy and would rather not do the extra work? At least now I have more understanding of the relatedness of Fan Yao and I?m positive I?ll at least be sneaking a peek at it now and then.

Namaste,
Candid

"they meet on a path while moving in opposite directions, with each one coming from the other?s destination"

Yes! I think there is something of a more general concept here that we could well use to see situations with more discernment and less judgement).

For example, there is a matrix popularized by Steven Covey (Seven Habits of Highly Effective People). Lets see if I can illustrate it:

.....Urgent.......]....Not Urgent...
....................].................
....................]................. Important
....................].................
....................].................
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....................].................
....................].................
....................].................Not Important
....................].................
....................].................

I've always had a problem with that matrix, because I know for a fact that many of the things that others (or even I, myself) see as "Not Important" are part of the fertile source where truth and power are growing.

Encouraged by that Hatcher quote, I would redo the matrix as something like:


.Possibilities Narrowing..]..Possibilities Opening...
...............................]........................
...............................]................. Defined
...............................].................
...............................].................
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...............................].................
...............................].................
...............................].................Diffuse
...............................].................
...............................].................


Hmmmmm....east meets west....

What is the title of Bradford Hatcher's book? I can't seem to find him on Amazon when doing an author search.

Bradford never (yet) published it, and he is still working on it. He does have a domain, where he will put everything, but at the moment it is still empty. www.hermetica.info
Hilary gives his e-mail address if you ask for it, he sends his book to everyone who is genuinely interested.
LiSe

Wow! Highly enlightening this Fan You relationship. I have been reviewing some recent divinations only to have new light shed on the situations. This afternoon, while using the new clarity on-line i-ching, I received hex 31, lines 3 &4 changing, to hex 8. I though the correspondance between lines 3 and 4 of H31 and lines 3 and 4 of H8 were remarkable. A new question for you LiSe, and again I am just curious...

I do not know exactly how to word this question, so an example I think might better get my point across. If you were looking at the hex I described above, H31 with 3 &4 changing, would you more typically look for the fan you correspondance in lines 3 &4 of H8, or would you look separately at 45:3 and 39:4?

Thank you so much for your insight and thoughts on this. It has been so interesting!

Peace and Love - Brian

The FanYao is always between the same two lines. You look to each line separately, so 31.3 has fanyao 45.3, always. And 31.4 has fanyao 39.4.
31.3: Do not float along with moods or convictions. The other follows yours ? you follow his ? and in the end a little thing becomes a hype.
and 45.3: For a coherent whole one needs consistent perseverance. Do not find out if it works - make it work.
They both talk about steadiness. The 3d line deals with emotions, if they are handled right in a contact like 31, which is based on emotions, the result is a stable companionship, like 45. And the line coming from the other side, 45.3: if you commit yourself to a companionship, others will start to trust you, and the result is an emotional bond.

31.4 For real contact one has to let go of etiquette and starchiness. Many people complain of the grind of their relation. Be spontaneous, be just as new as every new moment.
and 39.4: People do not listen to what they know, they listen to the unexpected, the creative, the new possibilities. If you try to adapt, you will end up alone, but if you are genuine, they will offer their company.
Here they both are about spontaneous ness. If you manage to stay fresh and new even in a long-lasting relation, you renew it day after day. (39 is not only about limping and difficulties, it is also about solving them, re-imagining). And 39.4: if you do not trod on (go, proceed) but always are looking ahead (come, expect), you will find the warmth of 31 in the coldness of 39.

And the next step is: both changing to 8. If, in a relation based on feelings, you can find the right emotional stability and you also give your spontaneous ness (your heart), then you are and you will find the person or people you can rely on. Love can become standing by each other when it has those two qualities.

For all these lines, I took the positive side. The negative side conjures up the negative side of the hex they change into. If love has no stability and no spontaneous ness, you get the nasty side of 8: people who live side by side and are a burden for each other.

LiSe

Thank you so much LiSe! This definitely answers my question and so much more! Your remarks are truly insightful, and very much appreciated... Have a beautiful day! - Brian