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I asked the i ching "should me and my ex get back together" back in mid September, before she said a couple of weeks later close to October that she never wanted to see me again. At that point I had some hope. At this point, I realize the situation is bleak, at least right now (since she also got a new boyfriend just 2-3 weeks after we broke up). She hurt me very badly, as did I to her. Our love was very real, and will always be very real. I felt that there is a chance we could reconcile, and still feel that to be honest, if given enough time, and if we are ready. However, when I asked that question, I asked it truly with an open mind. With the attitude of "is it good for me and my ex to get back together, and therefore should we?" Or in other words, "are we good for each other, and therefore should we get back together?" I asked it with that attitude, and was willing to hear either side, we should or we shouldn't.“should me and my ex get back together?”
55>63
Abundance>After Completion
A state of abundance in which things are where they should be.
Okay, what are the chances that the state of abundance in which things are in their proper place refers to:
a) you and your ex being together (a relationship that didn't work, complete with nasty breakup)
b) your present state
The reason I'm asking is that the 55>63 that you drew might be commenting on your present state (ie Don't try to get back together with her, because despite appearances, you're actually in a state of abundance with things in their proper place), or it might be commenting on the state of getting back together with her.
But I have to ask a question here: Considering that she doesn't want to see you again and that you'd be hesitant to even try that yourself, why are you asking about getting back together? It doesn't seem realistic at all. For that reason, I'd be tempted to go with interpretation b) above.
It is not there yet but it will come to you, provided you follow the advice of line 4.Beauty and brilliance come forward.
Blessing and fame draw near.
Good fortune.
Thank you for your reply, your insight has been helpful. I have a few questions:Hi Imanolgh,
H55 Abundance is Thunder over Fire.
When Thunder and Lightning light up the sky, it is only short-lived, just as the sun from the Judgement text is only at its highest point for a short while in the afternoon before slowly descending again.
H63 too is about a state of short duration. H63 is balance, after completion, but this balance is only short-lived, because in an ever-changing universe, nothing stays in balance forever. The slightest change creates imbalance again.
Together, then, H55 and H63 show that certain things only last for a brief moment before changing again.
The nuclear hexagram of H55 is H28. There is too much tension in this hexagram and something must be done before things collapse. This endorses the idea that the abundance of H55 is only short-lived.
Trigram Thunder turns into Water because of the moving lines at the 4th and 5th positions.
Here, the long-term consequences of impulsive actions are not considered. Trigram Water's advice is to adapt to the situation as it currently is. Find your own way.
When only the line at the 4th position moves, you get H36 The Darkening of the Light.
The text of this line talks about abundance being blocked. Trigram Fire in H36 is blocked by Earth. This is about following (Earth) rather than taking initiative or starting something new (Thunder).
When only the line at the 5th position moves, you get H49 Revolution. This is the hexagram of letting go of the old so that something new can emerge.
The text of this line says:
It is not there yet but it will come to you, provided you follow the advice of line 4.
The question is whether this means you and your ex should get back together. Personally, based on the above, I would say No.
That relationship is something that has been, it has peaked (H55<>H63) and now it is time to move on again.
This would be my interpretation. As always, take what resonates and leave the rest
A month ago when I was at my lowest point, I definitely was coming to terms with my mistakes, especially how I hurt my ex partner. I spoke with my mom who really really helped me make sense of it, and helped me feel better. Perhaps she is the hidden lord. My ex partner did always want me to talk to my mom about the issues we were having, since my mom is an amazing psychotherapist. Well I did speak with her, she made me feel a lot better, and honestly I don't know if I would be here typing to you if it weren't for her. I felt so guilty for what I did. Perhaps you are right in that I came to terms with my shadow, learning about a hidden ruler within myself. I guess we will see.I vote you are being advised not to reconnect.
55. Asks the question, “Should I stick around for the burial or go on with my life?
Or as you’ve asked, “Should my girlfriend and I get back together [or should I move on]?”
A different translation might give you more insight into 55.3 and especially what your‘s says about “meeting a prince of equal rank.” Hilary translates it as “meeting your hidden lord” Thus -
55.4
Feng is screened off
At midday seeing the Dipper.
Meeting your hidden lord - good fortune.
Read this way the IC seems to be describing a situation where you are no longer feeling totally eclipsed as one might have if you’d gotten line 3, and you’re getting better and while not seeing the sun again quite yet you can already see the Dipper encouraging you to keep going in your current direction. The “hidden lord” then may not represent another person but rather may be that dark side of yourself you recognize played a part in the break up. So you might call your dark side “a prince of equal rank” and if you can acknowledge ”him” - the dark side of yourself - and bring the whole truth of what happened and how you contributed to the break up out into the clear light of day then you learn something about yourself and that is great Good Fortune for future relationships. And with that lesson learned the past relationship should be considered over dead and done with! It is 63. Complete!
Even if we never get back together, do you think I could ask the IC whether we will ever speak again and reconcile?Plus, keep in mind that the Yi knows more about you and your situations than your conscious mind does.
A nuclear hexagram is formed for the lower trigram from lines 2, 3 and 4 of the original hexagram and for the upper trigram from lines 3, 4 and 5. A nuclear hexagram can generally be seen as the essence of the situation/answer or that which is the drive behind the situation/answer.1. Can you explain a little more what a nuclear hexagram is?
It's hard to say, of course. What is done is done and how things would have turned out if you had not done something or done it differently is of course impossible to tell.2. When you say: "Here, the long-term consequences of impulsive actions are not considered. Trigram Water's advice is to adapt to the situation as it currently is. Find your own way." Could that mean that even if I never said the impulsive things I said to my ex after the breakup out of pain and anger, that we shouldn't get back together anyway?
If you read back my interpretation you will see that I deal with both lines and not one.3. I didn't know that only one changing line would apply to me, and not the other. Does a changing line apply to me depend on my actions (I assume it does, since the IC I'm guessing does take into account free will or at least the decisions we make given the insight it provides). You're saying that a different changing line ( 4 or 5) that I choose to follow will lead to a different hexagram or outcome?
The Yi only gives advice and insight, so you always have free will to the follow advice or apply the insight. The future is not fixed but determined by choices we make now.I assume it does, since the IC I'm guessing does take into account free will or at least the decisions we make given the insight it provides
Personally, I think this is about taking an action to get back together, especially since Water's advice is to go your own way. The advice of the text of both moving lines is also along those lines. Improvement in your situation comes (line 5) when you allow yourself to be guided (line 4).Trigram Thunder turns into Water because of the moving lines at the 4th and 5th positions.
Here, the long-term consequences of impulsive actions are not considered. Trigram Water's advice is to adapt to the situation as it currently is. Find your own way
Even if we never get back together, do you think I could ask the IC whether we will ever speak again and reconcile?
it does. This is my first time consulting the I Ching. I have learned a lot. Thank youA nuclear hexagram is formed for the lower trigram from lines 2, 3 and 4 of the original hexagram and for the upper trigram from lines 3, 4 and 5. A nuclear hexagram can generally be seen as the essence of the situation/answer or that which is the drive behind the situation/answer.
It's hard to say, of course. What is done is done and how things would have turned out if you had not done something or done it differently is of course impossible to tell.
Do you even want to go back to your ex?
The fact that you keep describing things as "should we get back together" almost comes across as if you feel you have to fulfil a destiny or something.
If you read back my interpretation you will see that I deal with both lines and not one.
All I do is look at each movng line to see what the related hexagram is when only that line changes. This related hexagram gives additional information about the text of the moving line, so to speak. So it's not like you have to choose between one of the 2 lines. The advice of both lines applies.
The Yi only gives advice and insight, so you always have free will because follow advice or apply the insight. The future is not fixed but determined by choices we make now.
I hope this clarifies things a little.
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