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Hilary has gone to a great deal of time and trouble (not that she needs or wants my defense of her site) to create a "field" where the Yi can be honored, loved and learned from. I'm just not sure that engaging in territorial behavior shows honor or respect for Hilary or the Yi.
- me, too.I thought that for the most part, the differences of opinion in this thread were expressed in a pretty civilized way, and in a way completely acceptable to this site.
Hi, Luis. I think this thread degenerated from neutral comments to territorial one-upmanship. One can see it slipping from philosophical to ego-driven, from message to message. You mentioned Dobro's name, not me. He wasn't the only one...And, is the conversation jumping track because I protest the manner in which the conversation was being conducted by supposed scholars? I suggest that it jumped track the minute it went from philosophical to personal. In all the threads I've studied (and I'll have to admit I'm still in the process of reading the archives), you've been nothing but informative, scholarly, funny and to-the-point. I've seen you support a lot of people, but never undermine or attack them.
Dobro. I see that you're not unfamiliar with sarcasm, either.
I couldn't begin to tell you how to respond, except to say that over the years, I've learned that both "masculine" and "feminine" strategies have their uses.
I don't see that Eric was being deliberately obtuse or evil in his comments.
Beware confusing what the text says with what commentators would have liked it to have said. The line says something as simple as:In line 2, the yin ruler of the hexagram is instructed to disappear wherever to prepare food for human and religious use under the husband's instruction.
simple in its beauty and clarity, and to the point. thanks.Interesting thread. Loved Hilary's comments. Line 6 as grandparent makes lots of sense.
Evidence of family corruption is also reflected in 18, through the mother and father's methods: being too soft and too hard, too lenient and too strict, unconditional vs conditional love.
**I wrote that because you said, "Thanks for elaborating on your idea of the animal-based behaviors in us all. I found it unusual though that you highlighted the negative aspect of the male of the species and didn't describe the female variant, which is what I was really hoping you'd supply. (What? Girls' egos don't contend?)" For some strange reason, I didn't really "feel" the thank you part of this response. To me it suggested (and still does) sarcasm. I apologize if that's not what you intended, since I'm not a mind-reader. You also say that you find it unusual that I highlighted the negative aspect of the male of the species. Women have their ways, as well. And I'm not suggesting that they're not interchangeable. Women can be boringly pedantic, and men can be bitchy. I said that because the remarked upon behavior was between two males of the species--you and Eric.
**You said, "So, if you see my behavior as territorial, I'd be interested in you helping me to see it as well, cuz I thought that for the most part, the differences of opinion in this thread were expressed in a pretty civilized way, and in a way completely acceptable to this site. In other words, show me how differences of opinion can be expressed in a better way. Show me how women do it." To me, this is a pretty clear way of asking how you think a woman would respond ("show me how differences of opinion can be expressed in a better way. Show me how women do it.") . And in as equally a clear way, I thought I said that men and women, while having strategies equally effective or repugnant, aren't restricted to gender roles. In fact, that we should be pretty much beyond gender roles, since while they may be effective in instinctive or animal behavior, they seem to have developed a quasi-mutant response in people. In other words, dominance-seeking behavior served to cull out the weaker males or females; in particular, with the males, it also served to aid in the selection of the alpha male, which in turn, enhanced the breeding pool. I see nothing about dominance behavior which would enhance the breeding pool of an online forum, or enhance anything at all, for that matter.**
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I don't see that Eric was being deliberately obtuse or evil in his comments.
Neither do I.
**You originally said, "...The conclusion I've drawn is that petrosianii cares more about drama than about the Yi or clear thinking or playing nicely with others...", which pretty much correlates with being obtuse. Perhaps you've drawn this conclusion from more than one encounter on the forum, but I don't see much in his original comments that would indicate that he is alone in caring more about drama than about the Yi, or clear thinking or playing nicely with others. Also, you yourself said that "there's also been a clash of egos, for sure." That is what the original comment was about.**
Maremaria and Sparhawk--ever the conciliatory diplomats even with your wicked sense of humor. Have either of you ever considered running for president? I bet the war(s) would be over in a NY minute.
The Greek Goddess has a better chance. For her own sake, I'll stay out of the ticket.
Maremaria and Sparhawk--ever the conciliatory diplomats even with your wicked sense of humor. Have either of you ever considered running for president? I bet the war(s) would be over in a NY minute.
Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.
Nancy
Luis, I would note that there is a difference between the individual hugs amongst the pickpocket club members and a true group hug--however they became obsolete after their expression and exhaustion in the '70's.
Clarity,
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