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Looking it in a very-very simple way
61.2 is Good
61.5 is Good
61.6 is NOT good
In that case (or in a reading like that ) would you seek for a negative meanings or warning in the two first lines also ?
Hi Marie,
I didn't catch the full oracle you had in mind in your original post.
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Frank
I have cried from the heart, fervent sorrow,(regret, longing, etc), and gotten this. Heaven hears the cry, and is annoyed.
So if in the past you've cried out and received this line, it's life's way of telling you that the ego is involved, maybe to the extent of actually driving the crying out, and vis a vis heaven, it's much less than what you really are. It's like a loud complaint about 'oh woe is me'. There's a better way. See, I don't see it as 'crying out', I see it more as 'complaint' or 'trumpeting'. But definitely egoic.
Trojan once wrote something about this line, maybe it was in one of your threads, Maria, that expressed perfectly this oracle, from my experience. Can't remember verbatim what she said, so I wont quote , but I thought it was right on.
I have cried from the heart, fervent sorrow,(regret, longing, etc), and gotten this. Heaven hears the cry, and is annoyed. We can tend to thinks such things are the truth, (poignant regret, etc)., but heaven is over it.
I take the line, just like it says, don't persist in this. If one is using the I Ching for mind/heart cultivation, this is a guide post about matters of the heart.
Well I searched, cuz I really thought that Maria had talked about this line before, sorry if you didn't Maria. And, hi there Trojan, but I really thought you said something, yes, out of character for your normal style but I cant find it and now I feel kinda ...uh, like a cock crowing to heaven. So. Maybe it's time for a break for me, but I swear to you guys, I was sincere, when I got this line, I swear ta GOD It was SINCERE stuff, straight from the heart
Hi, Maria:Hi ,
I’m stuck and confused with this line.
61.6
“Cockcrow penetrating to heaven.
Perseverance brings misfortune.”
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... the whole section is very obscure and, I think, corrupt. Particularily intriguing is the «noise of wings mounting in the sky» of the last clause...
From A.Waley, p129, fom the pdf posted at the Marshall site.
The Rooster, like the Sun is a cyclical guy....
Did the rooster went beyond limits ?
Is he helpless and asks help from above ?
Did he said something to heaven and now he has to wait for heavens reply ?
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Frank:...
The cockcrow or rooster crowing at the rising sun is a common image whether and whenever folks raise chickens. There is the folktale of the silly rooster who thinks that he is the sole cause of the sun rising...
Maybe it was you Hollis, you are channeling your own past self
You were joking, but what you said is such an accurate description of ordinary psychology that it's scary.
So, Trojan - what's it feel like to be an unwitting channel of psychological truth?
poor little duck, it didnt matter how sincere his intention was. sometimes ya just gotta accept that you're a duck (in certain situations) and it doesnt matter how long or how hard you crow. you gotta accept your fate. 61.6
Thank you all of you .Yes, if I isolate that line, all what you said sounds correct. But in the context of my 61.2.5.6 > 24 makes me wonder if it is just that or/and something else.
Looking it in a very-very simple way
61.2 is Good
61.5 is Good
61.6 is NOT good
In that case (or in a reading like that ) would you seek for a negative meanings or warning in the two first lines also ?
Maria
Hi, Scarlet:Referenced that it was futile to continue to look for her last night, & also probably saying she flew off somewhere! Ascending to heaven didn't reference death as I feared it did, because this afternoon there is she in the backyard! And after I searched every nook & cranny for her...indeed there was no sense in the searching
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