computer designed readings

[joezoe]

The real question is what influences random events?

If random or 'quantum uncertainty' did not exist we would live in a predetermined universe.
Goodbye Freewill....

If you don't believe that then what influences 'random' events?

Have a look at here: http://noosphere.princeton.edu/
I've just been introduced to this site and find it truly fascinating.

Yours Randomly

JustJoolz

If our will is not destined/deterministic but random and uncertain then we will what we will or desire what we desire by pure chance or by accident.If this is true we have no free will,not the other way around.

 

[heylise]

Might be that pure chance is no accident? And vv?

 

[meng]

The real question is what influences random events?

I've heard it said a lot that intent influences random events. I always wrestle with that one, but more often than not it comes out on top. Not always at first, but eventually what comes to me can be found in the memory banks of my earlier intention. It's as if somewhere, at some time, I planned for this to happen, and planted the seeds. And I think that's really what the IC is about: a way for us to recognize the moments when we set fate in a direction; one we may not yet be cognizant of. Becoming aware of it, waking up to it, seeing more of it, we then can adjust our thinking and ways of being, so that the fate we shape is more intelligently designed. It was the fish that grew feet.

 

[meng]

This was sent to me this morning. I thought I'd shirttail it with the above post.

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc6U7_-BeGc&NR=1

 

[joezoe]

Might be that pure chance is no accident? And vv?[/QUOTE
Well that might actually be fine.

 

[joezoe]

I've heard it said a lot that intent influences random events. I always wrestle with that one, but more often than not it comes out on top. Not always at first, but eventually what comes to me can be found in the memory banks of my earlier intention. It's as if somewhere, at some time, I planned for this to happen, and planted the seeds. And I think that's really what the IC is about: a way for us to recognize the moments when we set fate in a direction; one we may not yet be cognizant of. Becoming aware of it, waking up to it, seeing more of it, we then can adjust our thinking and ways of being, so that the fate we shape is more intelligently designed. It was the fish that grew feet.

There is a story that Master Huang tells about Shao Yong.Once through divination,Shoa Yong recieved the message that his most prized flower vase would break on a certain date at a certain time.He thought that seemed unlikely and decided to put the divination to the test.
When the day arrived,he placed the vase in the middle of a table in the middle of a room and sat in front of the table,watching.He became so absorbed in watching that even his wife's call for lunch went unheard.After calling several times without response,his wife became upset.She went to the room and discovered Shao Yong staring at the vase blankly,as if in a trance.Intending to break his trance,his wife tapped the vase with her wooden spoon.No response.She tapped several more times.Still no response.Furious now,she swung heavily and broke the vase-exactly at the moment predicted.Shao Yong awoke from his trance,sighed,and said,"I forgot to put myself in to the calculation!"As in quantum physics,it must never be forgotten that one's own intention affects the outcome of the phenomenon one watches.

 

[jilt]

Some weeks after my daughters birth (she's 21 now) I made her "birth hexagram" with help from the calculations from Sherril and Chu (astrology of I Ching, or was it the other, "antholgy of I Ching). After doing a lot of computations -then computer-programs were not widely available- came hex 15 with the 3rd line as her birth-hexagram. It fits her perfectly. But then I decided to ask The yi straight away with coins for her birthhexagram. Came hex 15 with the 3rd line. This is only one of many likewise happenings.
In my experience the yi answering or comunicating has nothing to do with randomness, luck and chance. The appropriate answers is coming by some kind of consciousness, that might even interfere with computer-randomgenerators. That consciousness chooses text or image that is appropriate to the situation -that includes the mind of the questioner. Fooling the yi or asking the same question more times gives irritatated statements or indeed, random signs. Every experienced user of the yi knows about the reprimands you can get with e.g. hex 4, or with hex 21. Then you realize romdomness has nothing to do with it
I think our modern preoccupation with ramdomness and statistics and statistical correlation as a core scientific proof gives a kind of tunnelvision.
In other words: it looks like the answers are coming through something like randomness, and no conscious involvement is part of it; and because it appears randomness is involved and randomness is strongly connected with statistics and the way we proof correlations in positivistic science some people think they can use a randomngenerator for communication with the yi. It gives divination a strange pseudo-scientific look. It will work, but it is a very complicated way (remember, yi, easy) for consulting the yi. It must never be forgotten that one's own intention affect the process one is involved with. So, what is the intention of using computers and radomngenerators for communication with the yi? Why do we think the yi must be consulted by radomness, chance and luck? Isn't that a predisposition? Do we want to proof something with it? Is ramdomness, chance nothing like that at all but we call it like that because it is to complicated to account, it is about complexity? Perhaps we are using "chance" because of the myriad changes in the process and the resonating complexities, not because it is randomn.
Also, perhaps if we try to "fool" the yi with a radomngenerator", we, projectively, are only fooling ourself.