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Disturbing Dream; 18.3.5>59 Twice

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I had a disturbing dream this morning which included someone- Person A- being cruelly punished by Person B for a trivial thing. Person B was furious at Person A, who didn't resist being violated and just smiled stubbornly. I was shocked and tried to intervene by putting myself physically between the two. I woke up at this point, felt very troubled, consulted the I Ching about the dream and got 18.3.5>59.

I remembered the dream in the afternoon, it disturbed me again. I asked the I Ching for further information and got the same result.

Person A is someone I'm angry at and want to get rid of in a peaceful way, but don't want to be subject to any type of violence. That said, the punishment could be a symbol for my inner anger being expressed, but why Person B- who's often gentle in real life- did it?

Usually I have this type of "violent" dreams when not having proper outlets for physical/social/psychological energy, like these days, and I understand some bottled stress should be the cause. I didn't have had such dreams for a long while.

Now the reading: 18 changing to 59 sounds like something fallen into decay should be repaired and the corruption will be dispersed. 18.3 refers to the mistakes of father- troubles having roots in the past- that are easily set right. Correcting them leads to recognition (18.5). What does it say about my dream? That it pictures my frustration of Person A and I should consciously try to solve the problem?

Any thoughts?
 

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Without Yi it looks like you are really struggling with the tension of needing to assert your boundaries versus the tension of fearing to be excessively hurtful about it.

I wrote quite a lot about my expereinces with 18.3 in wiki, Hilary's translation there is


'Ancestral father's corruption.
There is small regret,
No great mistake.'

For me this is basically to do with trying to take remedial measures that don't work even though the intent behind that is good. The fact that you are grappling with 'how' to do this ridding yourself of A is good, it comes from a good place, the place of B, the nice person BUT it really doesn't work. In your dream it doesn't work for B, B has had to become severe. That gentle place of getting rid of A hasn't worked to such an extent even B has had to go to extremes.

I feel the dream tells you basically if you go on trying to be the nice B person about this it really won't work, the B will snap and become furious.

So the dream is warning you this mildness you aim for isn't enough but also if you do take adequate measures to address this it's really good, line 5, from wikiwing

'Ancestral father's corruption.
Use praise.'

Hilary writes of this as actually using praise to tackle corruption, a kind of charm offensive perhaps. I tend to find actually the line is saying it is praiseworthy if you tackle this.

18.3.5>59 Corruption's Dispersion. I should remember this is about the dream rather than the situation but I do feel the cast shows the dream to be an attempt to work this out, figure out how to process and deal with this corruption.

Only you will know how to relate to the meaning of corruption here since you are in the situation. It feels like the corruption is you letting something continue that's poisonous for you and your subconscious is advising you that you even your gentle side has had more that enough and there's danger of explosion here if you don't take some measure, as in line 5, to deal with this. I'm taking B as standing for a part of you or your idea of who B is in this situation and even B is acting out of character.


This tension is so extreme for you, between 2 parts of you that you even stand between A and B

The change patterns here are yang 39/yin 38 which is interesting as you stand between 2 people in the dream who certainly don't see eye to eye, indeed they don't even look at each other and they certainly don't 'get' one another. There's a polarity here, a tension, how can that dissolve ?

59 makes me feel this ebbs away with some encouragement in line 5. Now you could try Hilary's idea that using praise will work even in getting rid of A or you can take it as i see that Yi is praising you for dealing with it.


Yet even though I'm tempted to say line 5 may show timely restorative action to the situation the 59 makes me think this is either a really elusive slippery conflict to get a hold of or this will just dissipate anyway.


Thinking of the 2 hexagrams...when poison ebbs away so it's more diffuse what happens ? Makes me think of for example seeing less of a spiteful person. It's like the poison is still there but you drift away from each other so it becomes less relevant ?



This caught my attention

Person A- being cruelly punished by Person B for a trivial thing.



That's an interesting detail because whatever this is about it is not trivial even if it looks it, it speaks of more. Perhaps this isn't so much about the situation but what's really important to your subconscious is how you deal with it.
 
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Sounds to me like Frustration and Acceptance are at odds with each other. A bit like the Chariot tarot card.
 

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