Hex 13 to 58...twice

[Sparhawk]

Geeze Gene!! Where is your Zen simplicity?

Look at all the things you wrote commenting my chain pulling for Val...

Of course we have many, many nuances for common words and phrases. Like you cannot imagine! Not to mention that Spanish is a language that unites many countries under its common umbrella, but, and a very important 'but' it is, it also separates us from each other. You wouldn't believe the variations in common terms you will find just crossing a border down south... Simply crazy!

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Seems like to say 1968 I have to say something like mil nuevecientos sesenta y ocho. Too many syllables for me...<!-/Quote-!><HR SIZE=0></BLOCKQUOTE>
Only because in colloquial English you use the short form of "nineteen sixty eight" while the more proper one of "one thousand nine hundred and sixty eight" is not used but in legal documents. That form is what actually translates to the Spanish "mil novecientos sesenta y ocho"...

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Don't get me started. You are not of the proper gender...

Luis

 

[gene]

Hi Luis

Yes, and one of the problems of learning a second language is it takes a long time to learn the nuances, and to understand the sarcastic tones, and little tricks of the language, not to mention the idioms and the speach of that particular locality. By the way, at first I wrote novecientos but then thought, that can't be right, nine is nueve. It's been too long since I studied formally Spanish.

Gene

 

[cal val]

Hola Gene y Luis y todas personas en esta forum...

Yo tengo una pregunta. 2 to 19 might not be so bad after all. Mi pregunta is about 19. Everytime I get it...and this goes back to my early days of trying to understand the Yi, my intial thought is always that it's about mentoring...or learning. What are your thoughts?

Tambien...what are your thoughts about 3.1 to 8 as pertaining to una pregunta regarding possibly returning to school...like maybe the Philadelphia Institute of Art which I passed almost everyday when I left the hotel?...*mueca*

Muchas gracias!

Val

 

[cal val]

Gene...

So right you are. I was referring to the twangy kind of Southern accent. Actually there are a few people here with twangy accents, and I think they're called rednecks by the locals. But there's also this very melodic country gentry kind of accent that's predominant here, and it's very localized...indigenous to this town. There's a backwoods accent as well that the people who live outside of town have.

Cheerio the noo,

Val

 

[gene]

Accents are still alive and well in the U.S. I suppose that's a good thing. Southern Georgia has a classy southern accent. Definitely different from the Oklahoma midwest southern accent. Hey, ya all. That's where my mother was from. Minnesota still has that sharp accent that seems almost like the polar opposite of the Alabama accent.


Well, hexagram 19, you might be able to make a case for mentoring if you take its pair number 20, and combine them. Hexagram 19, as Chris Lofting says, has to do with those of lower class approaching those in hexagram 20 with higher class. As such, then the figure in 19 goes to the figure in 20 on the tower, and looks up to him. "Full of trust, they look up to him" The image in 19 says, "the superior man is inexhaustible in his will to teach." Twenty says, "Contemplated the people and gave them instruction."

Three and four are a pair. Three has more to do with teaching by hard experience. Four has more to do with an actual teacher. Three one says it is important to seek out the right assistance. The hexagram has to do with seeking out the right teacher, not going it totally alone. Hexagram four gives instruction to the teacher as well. Sounds like all systems are go. Initiating countdown.

Gene

 

[cal val]

Gene...

There's more than one kind of Oklahoma accent too. I know the twangy one you're talking about. But none of my Oklahoma relatives have it. Their accent is soft, and they're all soft spoken.

Same with Texas accents. My half-sister has a Dallas accent which is very different than other parts of Texas.

Muchas gracias por the interpretation on 19 and 3. Hmmmm. I'm still rubbing my chin, but I was on their site tonight checking out the procedures for applying online.

Cheerio the noo,

Val

 

[gene]

Seems as though there is some similarity in concepts between three and ninteen. This is something I had not analyzed previously. In Three, a person just starting out goes into the forest alone and gets lost. He needs to find a guide. In ninteen, more mature people consciously and actively seek out a teacher. In hexagram 2 an individual comes to understand that he/she is not formally educated enough to lead, so learns to follow, and be receptive. In three, his/her education begins. In four, it becomes more formal. In nineteen, the education is more philosophical, more esoteric. In twenty, the instruction is actually given on a person to person basis. It is at the same time more personalized and more formalized. In hexagram four, the student has to be taught a hard lesson because he does not recognize his foolishness. In nineteen, the student is more eager. The approach is more willing, the attitude more receptive. In three and four the education is more or less forced upon the student, in three due to a need to grow, in four due to a need for socialization. In nineteen a desire for growth, in twenty, an admiration for those who have gone beyond.

Gene

 

[gene]

Val

De nada. Me da gusto. (I hope I said that right.) It gives me pleasure. Meaning, It is my pleasure. I really need to brush up on my spanish. Couldn't remember the word for correct, or the words for taking to a higher level. Necesito aprender mas espanol. Espero que mis explanaciones son adequadas. (Luis will probably laugh his head off when he reads this perversion of the spanish language.) Sorry Luis.

Gene

 

[cal val]

Gene...

I don't think an artist ever stops learning or wanting to learn. Maybe I should speak for myself, but every creative endeavor is a learning experience, and there is always someone who can teach you something new about your medium.

Thanks for the additional insight. It really strikes a chord for me.

Cheerio the noo,

Val

 

[learner]

Hello Val and Gene,

Speaking about learning a second language, I am adding some additional international communication to this forum.
You said: ?Necesito aprender mas espanol. Espero que mis explanaciones son adequadas?.

Here it comes the translation in Portuguese:
?Preciso aprender mais espanhol. Espero que minhas explicações sejam adequadas?.

There is some similarity between Portuguese and Spanish in this case.

Gene, I totally understand when you say that it takes a long time to learn the nuances and to understand the little tricks of a new language. That is my challenge at the moment, but I am sure that you have already noticed. *grin *

All the best,
Brazilian Learner

 

[Sparhawk]

Val said:

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De nada. Me da gusto. (I hope I said that right.) It gives me pleasure. Meaning, It is my pleasure. I really need to brush up on my spanish. Couldn't remember the word for correct, or the words for taking to a higher level. Necesito aprender mas espanol. Espero que mis <STRIKE>explanaciones son adequadas</STRIKE> explicaciones sean adecuadas. (Luis will probably laugh his head off when he reads this perversion of the spanish language.) Sorry Luis<!-/Quote-!><HR SIZE=0></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct = correcto....

"Me da gusto" is OK. "Es un placer" is more in tune with "it is my pleasure"

And I'm not laughing. I would have to think that people is also laughing when I slaughter the English language in this and other forums... (Please don't confirm this or I'll need years of therapy...)

As for your question about the Art Institute of Philadelphia, on a practical note, not related to your Yi answer, you cannot go wrong by taking a course and a degree there. It has the best reputation and they also help you with job opportunities.

Cheers,

Luis

 

[gene]

Sounds like another case where Spanish speakers are using the subjunctive where English speakers do not. I think "sean adecuados" means "may be adequate" right? Use of the subjunctive gives Spanish a beauty I think is missing in English. We sound more like a bunch of drunken spring break beach partiers.

Gene

 

[cal val]

Luis...

Estoy apesadumbrado de admitirlo, pero no escribí ese español hermoso. Gene lo escribió.

Thank you babelfish!

Yeah...AIP's reputation spreads far and wide. Very good school. And I have to admit, I was thinking of the career opportunities as well as the continuing education.

Cheerio the noo,

Val

 

[martin]

Hallo Val,

Toren van Babel ...
Ik spreek geen spaans. Wat betekent "Estoy apesadumbrado ..."?
Begrijp je wat ik vraag?

 

[eve]

Hoi Martin

Wie was dat meisje met neptunus op haar ascendant?

love, light and laughter,
eve.

 

[martin]

Hallo Eva,

Nee maar, ben jij nog op?
Stout meisje!

Liefde, licht en lach!

Woefje

PS Een meisje van Eigenwijs natuurlijk ...

 

[cal val]

Martin...

Nope...sorry...have no idea what you asked.

I told Luis I hated to admit, but I wasn't the one who wrote the beautiful Spanish. Gene wrote it.

*grin*

Sorry you don't speak Spanish.

Here's a joke in English for you.

What do you call a person who speaks several languages?

A: Multilingual, of course.

What do you call a person who speaks three languages?

A: Trilingual, of course.

What do you call a person who speaks two languages?

A: Bilingual, of course.

What do you call a person who speaks only one language?

A: American, of course!


Val

 

[martin]

Hi Val,

Quote: "Nope...sorry...have no idea what you asked."
Are you sure? You _did_ answer my question!
Telepathy?

Of ben je Nederlands in een ander leven?
(Or are you Dutch in another life?)

Heb je al een andere baan gevonden?
(Did you already find another job?)

Ik hoop dat je gauw iets vindt.
(I hope that you find something soon.)

Martin

 

[cal val]

Yes I'm very telepathic...but that's not why I understood your post. I understood because I'm also very resourceful. This time I went to WorldLingo for the translation.

I haven't found another job yet, but if you know of any position open that requires resourcefulness...I'm your man! *grin*

Thank you for your warm wishes. I appreciate them so much.


Val