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pocossin;118292 [B said:I did experience the situation as a whole by contemplating it in terms of Chinese metaphysics, and thus got the feel of the situation.[/B] That, in my opinion, is what a diviner is supposed to do, and if you would make some attempt at doing it you would understand the reality of my position. My feelings are just as real as yours are.
Two questions for anyone:
1) Have any of you ever received answers from the Yi which you were absolutely positive of its meaning?
2) Is it remotely possible that this same certainty can ever be applicable to someone else's reading, that you've been asked to interpret?
Two questions for anyone:
1) Have any of you ever received answers from the Yi which you were absolutely positive of its meaning?
2) Is it remotely possible that this same certainty can ever be applicable to someone else's reading, that you've been asked to interpret?
maremaria said:do you say the underlined part literally or figuratively?
Is it a rational process or its more than that?
Maria's right, this probably should have been its own thread.
and btw, when Wf said that maybe the son was a liar, she wasnt being disrespectful, but pointing to another way that the ominous line of 62.4 could be viewed. some kind of fish was rotten....I'd be very surprised f the money was merely mislaid.
I said mostly No , because as Yes, i had in mind what i was discussing with Tom.
the "absolute sure" kind or as Tom described, "i was there" or as WF said "I can see the answer perfectly clearly". where there is no space for doubts.
Please do continue discussion there. It's interesting.
But the kind which just falls out of the sky will also have a logical explanation and sequence. A pattern had occurred; a traceable pattern of reason - all which fuels what emerges as "intuition".
I personally don't care for the free and easy use of the word, intuition, because I think it dumps a very complex system of subtle and gross cognitive processes into one nebulous term.
Today, I suddenly got the idea to empty somebody else's stagnant fishpond without that person's knowledge or permission. The pond had been dirty for ages.
About 30 minutes later they asked me to do them a favour an empty the pond for them.
I had already done it.
1) Have any of you ever received answers from the Yi which you were absolutely positive of its meaning?
2) Is it remotely possible that this same certainty can ever be applicable to someone else's reading, that you've been asked to interpret?
Another way intentionally leaves open space and some doubt.
IMaybe a moderator can open a 'divination responsibility' thread, or something....
I also think Ginnie made good points, but it returns to the subject of moral or ethical responsibility, which has forever been the short fuse of many farts and explosions in this forum. How intuition is used.. not exactly off the subject of "intuition in divination", but I think it's a subcategory. It's like the scientists discover what makes something work, and then government chooses how it (intuition) should and should not be used.
They are both relevant, but I think it's hard to intermingle them, mainly because moral judgment is individual and subjective, where as the matter of how intuition operates in divination is more open ended in general to discussion, rather than debate.
Maybe a moderator can open a 'divination responsibility' thread, or something. Maybe 'ethical divination', where all views of what are right or wrong ways to use divination can be discussed. But, it's a hot subject, sooo...
. . . it returns to the subject of moral or ethical responsibility. . .
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