Playing with Hx 4

[tashij]

Hex 4 is the first place in the sequence where the Yi speaks of itself. "Not that I seek the..." it is a rather startling voice.

The voice repeated in 27.1. Also startling.

The oracle announces it's own presence. The mountain speaks. Could the small spring at the base of the mountain could be where invocations are initiated?

 

[dharma]

i've been following this thread trying to make sense of hx4 but there is a lot of talk that seems to focus on the historical aspect that just goes above my head. except for one of Bradford's posts that seemed to point to the lines as containing the clues, i haven't been able to grasp much. so, i sat with my books for a few hours and here is my 2 cents worth of understanding...

it is my hope that those experienced among you will come forward and mark my homework

.....

Hx4:
an inexperienced person or an unripe situation - both require a period of maturation and are instructed to develop objectivity and be prudent through measured self-discipline

1- the first line cautions one of the trap inherent in the maturation process - taking care that your experiences don't degenerate into dogmatic self-righteousness

2- the second line orients one to the facts - that all worthy achievements and understandings are directly borne out of specific application, consistent practice, and personal experience

3- the third line warns one that merely imitating others and following in their footsteps is a false pretense at experience - it is simply not enough to conform and be like others

4- the fourth line alerts one to the risk at taking on more than one is really prepared to handle - recognize your limits; overconfidence in your abilities is a mistake that can cost you dearly

5- the fifth line advises one to be realistic and accept oneself - admitting ignorance, being flexible and accepting advice, serves the maturation process by leaps and bounds

6- the sixth line counsels one to not lose faith - failures, loss and reaching wrong conclusions due to inexperience, should not be regarded in a negative light. these should be taken as lessons that encourage us to prevent future mistakes

 

[cheiron]

Thanks for helping me with my homework!

I chose this Hx. as an exercise to try to get my head thoroughly inside a hexagram which fitted Stephen Karcher?s idea of progressive change with no transformative change whatsoever.

That is that this Hx. rotated by 180 deg. Forms the other hexagram in its pair? Hx.3.

Readers of Karcher will know that he proposes that these pairs are about smooth progressive change as oppose to those which form pairs when each line becomes it?s opposite? as in 1:2 for example which he proposes is a ?transformative change?. A change where one ?passes through a gate? and somehow life is not quite the same.

These main transformative pairs are 1:2 27:28 29:30 and 61:62) They fall at key points in the YiJing? beginning the end of the upper Cannon and the end of the YiJing before the ?Great Revolving Door?of 63:64.

There are hexagrams where a line(s) might lead to a transformative pair? That is that there are perhaps windows for this type of change.

Also there are some interesting ones (11:12 17:18 and 63:64) which are both transformative and progressive? (rotating them or changing the lines to their opposite gives the second Hx. in the pair). I wonder does the nature of the change depend on the nature of the time or ones approach to it? Or both?

I?ve been chasing Dragons and stalking Tigers through the Yijing for a couple of weeks now? (Hx.10 always shows up somewhere whenever there is transformative change? the Transforming Tiger who stalks the Yijing)

Look what happens in 10.3 ? Treading on the tail of the Tiger? ZAP! ? The Dragon appears!? That naughty big kitty ? Its fairly well hidden in the undergrowth of 10 too!

So to the cries of What the?

And

Pah!

I thank folk for the help and will try to get that 61:62 (transformative hx.) sorted out.

Any views?

--Kevin

 

[cheiron]

Afterthought

These ideas are not my own? I am following Stephen Karcher?s work from his ?Total I Ching?

So I offer my profound thanks to him for this jewel from that book.

--Kevin