Request to the community for any insights regarding this reading 30.6 to 55

[Trojina]

Now that throws a different light on the whole thing. My simplistic understanding was that you have whatever situation you have and that 30.6 picks up on that particular way that things are currently panning out and offers the medicine to proceed further, and after taking the medicine for a while or using the prescription it will lead to a new set of circumstances, i.e. 55 that are just around the corner but still below the horizon waiting to become the new now.

Some people see it like that, there's no set formula, it's a matter of finding what works for you. I found readings made far more sense after ditching that approach. I think it's important to see the primary and relating together in the reading.

Here's a blog explaining more

The old 'resulting hexagram' conundrum

I recently had an email from 'M', who's baffled by a recent reading. M's particular question was a little unusual, asking what he himself is really looking for in a given situation, but the basic problem he's having is familiar: "Essentially, I am confused as how to interpret the original hexagram,

www.onlineclarity.co.uk

 

[namunah]

Some people see it like that, there's no set formula, it's a matter of finding what works for you. I found readings made far more sense after ditching that approach. I think it's important to see the primary and relating together in the reading.

Here's a blog explaining more

The old 'resulting hexagram' conundrum

I recently had an email from 'M', who's baffled by a recent reading. M's particular question was a little unusual, asking what he himself is really looking for in a given situation, but the basic problem he's having is familiar: "Essentially, I am confused as how to interpret the original hexagram,

www.onlineclarity.co.uk

Thanks for the link trojina. I read through it but somehow it raised a lot more questions than it answered. I think my preference is to go with a straightforward cause and effect model, or a model that shows the likely reward or result that emerges through staying with an energy configuration or behaviour pattern or altering it in some way. Sometimes doing absolutely anything else regardless of what versus the behaviour or rut one is engaging in is better than doing nothing at all because all states are fundamentally unstable in some way, some more, some less. The art is to get them to change nicely according to our definition. So since we definitely have a pronounced reward system installed in us that practically runs everything it would seem only natural to me to have a kind of carrot dangling there as an added motivation to seriously consider the qualified hints of the changes that are suggested in the original hexagram and to describe a likely outcome. The reward may not even seem like something good or desirable at first but could also be a warning or indication to watch out that something else unwanted or even worse doesn't happen, which is really a very good thing too. So in my particular reading, I think I need to go with reducing complexity rather than increasing it.

But I certainly thank you for considering this with me!

 

[Liselle]

The second hexagram isn't always the result. It just isn't. It can be sometimes - that's one of the things the 2nd hexagram can be - but if you think it always is, you'll run into trouble.

Hilary often gives 35.5 to 12 as an example. If the 2nd hexagram was always the result, in this one you'd start off with the very promising 35, follow the cheery and optimistic advice in the moving line -

35.5: 'Regrets vanish. Letting go, gaining, do not worry. Going on is good fortune, Nothing that does not bear fruit.'

- only to end up Blocked? That doesn't make sense.

It makes more sense to think you're feeling Blocked, and Yi is saying no, actually, whatever regrets. worry, and other negative feelings you have will vanish. Just let go of whatever it is and go on, and the result will be good fortune and fruitfulness. You've been given a gift (35) in a time of Stagnation (12); the moving line is how exactly that plays out.


Try going back through your readings that you understand well, the ones with definite outcomes, and see what you think the 2nd hexagram did in those. That's probably the best way.

 

[namunah]

Thanks Liselle. That may or may not be the case, I don't know. Whichever way round I take this it seems the message is still quite clear: changing line 6 "The king uses this (clarity) to march out" and under the description for Abundance (which has its own problems) it says "Decide what you will do, take it on, make the practical preparations and march out." That simply says to me "figure out what and get on with it" (a theme in both hexes it seems). So even if the abundance (many possibilities) does come first it still needs to crystallize into a clear idea (clarity) and appropriate action related to it. So from my perspective, the pointing is towards the action part more than anything instead of the situation of everything having come to a grinding but controlled and initially not so unwelcome halt.

 

[rosada]

I read 30 as describing a relationship based on trade offs: The man takes care of the cow and the cow feeds the man. It's a business relationship and in business relationships there is always the danger of misunderstandings where one side comes to feel used, taken advantage of or even betrayed so maybe 30.6 as describing this point where one side, one king, comes to realize "Hey this isn't working for me," and without further back and forth it's time to sever the whole contract, confident that any remaining details need not keep one from moving forward.

Hexagram 55 is where one sees the whole landscape, past present and future, with clarity. It's the story of the king who had to choose between morning the death the death of his father or going forward to deal with new immediate threats. He clearly sees that nothing more is to be gained from focusing on the past and that he must look to what lies ahead. So 55 seems to validate the advice in 30.6 to separate from old arrangements that are no longer working and to look to the future.

As advice for what you should actually do now I think it's urging you to release the past and focus on the future.

 

[Matali]

Hello,
With 30.6 – 55: maybe you killed all the toxic leaders in this battle without making a distinction between what could still serve you. For example : an aptitude, a talent, a colleague who was not so bad, a project that might still interest you
The parallel line 55.6 (fan yao) could be this isolation engendered by the radical battle.

 

[namunah]

I read 30 as describing a relationship based on trade offs: The man takes care of the cow and the cow feeds the man. It's a business relationship and in business relationships there is always the danger of misunderstandings where one side comes to feel used, taken advantage of or even betrayed so maybe 30.6 as describing this point where one side, one king, comes to realize "Hey this isn't working for me," and without further back and forth it's time to sever the whole contract, confident that any remaining details need not keep one from moving forward.

Hexagram 55 is where one sees the whole landscape, past present and future, with clarity. It's the story of the king who had to choose between morning the death the death of his father or going forward to deal with new immediate threats. He clearly sees that nothing more is to be gained from focusing on the past and that he must look to what lies ahead. So 55 seems to validate the advice in 30.6 to separate from old arrangements that are no longer working and to look to the future.

As advice for what you should actually do now I think it's urging you to release the past and focus on the future.

Rosada that's a very nice summary and is exactly what I am doing, so thank you for confirming!

 

[Trojina]

What I'm confused about is that the question was I thought about the next step in life not the next step in fighting enemies which is something you have completed

But now since this summer I have the sense that it is time for a complete renewal and restart in maybe a different direction and a whole different focus. Then along comes the reading and the question of what out of all the possibilities that are there in every moment is something that I am willing to really identify with and seriously proceed with for the next step in the journey. So the problem is the question of choice and the choice picking up enough energy and momentum so that it is viable and can sustain itself. It seems when things are driven by sheer necessity it is a lot easier to undergo a commitment and stay with it. So for me Hex 30 following from Hex 29 "Repeating chasms" describes the problem of too many possibilities and finding the right angle so that the "king uses that to march out".

People seem to be going on about the battle which you said was over

 

[namunah]

Hello,
With 30.6 – 55: maybe you killed all the toxic leaders in this battle without making a distinction between what could still serve you. For example : an aptitude, a talent, a colleague who was not so bad, a project that might still interest you
The parallel line 55.6 (fan yao) could be this isolation engendered by the radical battle.

Hi there matali! In the end, I did kill the toxic leaders in this battle but only after I had done my best to avoid having to do that and having explored all other avenues - there were basically no moves left for me except to extricate myself from the whole thing - i.e. walk away. Such a situation also brings great gifts by pausing you from the everyday things that are taken for granted and offering a new assessment of the means for future growth. But that's all behind me and growth has been fundamentally served here.

 

[namunah]

What I'm confused about is that the question was I thought about the next step in life not the next step in fighting enemies which is something you have completed



People seem to be going on about the battle which you said was over

Quite right, I have been noticing that too and don't mind going along with it somewhat. Who knows what it may be good for. But the fact is the plane was forced to land in mid-flight, a controlled landing not a crash landing, and now where is the runway to take off again? Is it right nearby but eludes detection or is it still being tarmacked and will be ready for use shortly?

 

[Matali]

Hi there matali! In the end, I did kill the toxic leaders in this battle but only after I had done my best to avoid having to do that and having explored all other avenues - there were basically no moves left for me except to extricate myself from the whole thing - i.e. walk away. Such a situation also brings great gifts by pausing you from the everyday things that are taken for granted and offering a new assessment of the means for future growth. But that's all behind me and growth has been fundamentally served here.

Yes, and you were right to leave these toxic leaders. But as you look for your new route now, and when I look at line 30.6, I wonder what your talent, your aptitude, was, which could perhaps still serve you for a new road...

 

[namunah]

Yes, and you were right to leave these toxic leaders. But as you look for your new route now, and when I look at line 30.6, I wonder what your talent, your aptitude, was, which could perhaps still serve you for a new road...

I feel especially attracted to the line in the description where it says "cultivate the part of you that shelters and nourishes new insight" and just before that "As well as paying attention to what you see, nurture
your capacity to see". From that, it does seem to me to be an indication for something not so much within the realm of the known, but something that needs to be given the space to reveal itself and be held to be in the context.