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Ultimatum.... 50.2 > 56
I asked the yi: what is the outcome of our conversation...
50.2 > 56
I sent this last night and am suffering from anxiety now... Because this is it really.
Oh gosh guys. I've come to a point in my relationship where I can't hold out anymore. After over 6 months I want to feel secure that we are "together".
Reading back now to other people's answers... YES!! So accurate.Is this the same guy you were asking about a while back
22.5 >37 how will he treat my heart? | I Ching Community (onlineclarity.co.uk)
(1) Renting a room 24 unchanging | I Ching Community (onlineclarity.co.uk)
and this one
The one on a boat with a kid
I know without a doubt, he does not have another lover. It would be impossible to hide this from me.what is the outcome of our conversation 50.2 > 56
He has already got a new lover.
This man is extremely rude and behaves sadistically towards you.
You can't force him to be a nice person, you can't force him to love you.
Cut your losses and run before you allow him to hurt you even further.
Very interesting, thank you for being so generous and taking the time to write.watersprite2,
With regard to 50.2....
“The Vessel contains something real.
My companion is afflicted,
Cannot approach me.
Good fortune.”
....In Line 2 of hexagram 50, I think you are the person with the full vessel, and that your full vessel is your inner strength, strong spirit, and keen intelligence. After reading through this thread, I get the sense that this person cannot keep up with you. He just might not be a match for you emotionally, spiritually, or intellectually - and just like line 2 says, this sparks envy in him. And when people get envious, rather than build themselves up, they try to cut others down. I think this is likely happening indirectly on a subconscious level.
As for the outcome of your conversation with him....I think the image of hexagram 56 - Transition - strongly implies that there is no need to tell this person about himself anymore; perhaps it is best to avoid prolonged discussions. I get the impression that he just might NOT be able to handle an intense discussion; he might not have the emotional/spiritual/intellectual "bandwidth", thus the short answers and long silences are periods of time when he is "buffering". Here's a quote explaining the image:
"The Image:
Legge: A fire on the mountain -- the image of Transition.
The superior man exerts cautious wisdom in his punishments, and does not permit prolonged litigation."
You are the superior person, by the way, when you are cautious with your punishments (refrain from any more detailed explanations of his bad behaviors) and when you do not permit prolonged litigation (do keep telling him about himself). I think you asked something like, "what will be the outcome of the conversation?". This interpretation of the resulting hexagram might not be an outcome of your conversation, but perhaps a suggestion for how you should handle the conversation, or a least a strong implication that the situation will not lend itself to lengthy conversation due to his low "bandwidth" and tendency toward "buffering".
Also, read this 2006 post from Hilary regarding 50.2. Here are a few quotes from that post that I strung together: "You have something good within you...but your close companion is distressed....You might want to alleviate their distress by sharing, but it can’t be done"
Back to the line reading, Good fortune is yours because of what is within you! Perhaps it is time to focus more on the "something real" that is within you. It seems you have been paying a lot of attention to him - his issues, his needs, his healing. What if you focus that energy inward? Further nurture that which is within you so that another person's affliction cannot harm you. I get the sense that you are so incredibly strong, and that you have what it takes to fuel your own personal transition - whatever that may be.
~kareeva
I completely agree with everything you've said. I actually think your interpretation of the line resonates with me the most. I went through a couple of days crying my eyes out because I am ready to walk. I never go back on my ultimatums. I left the father of my child when he wouldn't behave properly so I'm 100% ready to let this guy go.You asked the I Ching, "What is the outcome of our situation?"
I see 50.2-56 as describing the ultimatum. You told him,
"(50.2) l am a person of value. If you can’t handle that then I'm (56.) moving on.”
In other words, not giving a prediction for the outcome but mirroring what you told him. Maybe leaving it up to you to decide the outcome - no indication that he changes so will you really leave if he doesn't wake up?
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The fact that he seems open to discussing the issues seems very promising to me. Originally I thought if these hexagrams were forced to predict the future I would have to read them as saying "You will ultimately move on from this relationship," but now I think they could be encouraging you that the two of you will ultimately move on from this situation, this respect issue! It is possible you will be able to wake him up!
But imho, I do think the important thing is that you hold to your ultimatum. As in if he disrespects you in public ever again don't smile sweetly - speak up or walk out of the room immediately! For now I think you must ask him to meet with you and his child and have him tell the boy it was wrong of him to make disparaging remarks. Children do not forget and that unfeeling comment from his father was literally teaching him it was fun to treat you - and all women - badly. He needs to correct that and doing it with you present sends the message that you and the father are good now, because the child would not have missed how Dad's words hurt you and he needs to see that when they are wrong real men apologize to women too.
You mean the relationship ends? Or just the situation just ends?You’re in a co dependant relationship. Once you stop being co dependant from your end...The End
Thank you becalm. I actually understand co dependancy quite well. It's interesting you mentioned this because that is absolutely what I was suffering from.The relationship ends unless the other co depender steps up. Research co dependent relationships, might give you some insight.
Why?Friday I'll see him for his birthday.
Because he's turning 40 and has done a lot for me. It's not actually his fault I became addicted to him. I was so depressed after my separation with my previous partner, I had not many friends or much of a life because I'm still relatively new to this island.Why?
54.1 > 40 and thengot as a response: 50.2 > 56 and then within about a week's time you got ...
Well those were readings for different questions regarding the same person.54.1 > 40 and then
46.5 > 48 and then
5.4 > 43 and then
40.3.5.6 > 44 and then
7.4 > 40 and then
50.1.5 > 1 and then
45.1.4.6 > 42 and then
52.2 > 18 and then
13.3 > 25 and then
11.6 > 26 and then
62.2.5.6 > 44 and then
4.6 > 7 and then ....
So ... I thought about responding to your first query - 50.2 > 56, but first I have to ask:
Is it a waste of my time to respond to 50.2 > 56 because you've moved on from that? And ...
Are you even paying attention to the Yi's responses here (which, if not, would also make it a waste of my time to respond)? I know affairs of the heart can be troubling and confusing, but ... if it were me I don't know how I'd make sense - or even begin to make sense - of all this.
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And you ended with: ... 'he was having a mental breakdown. So I will give things a little more time to heal'.Putting on your calming voice to pacify me with cryptic bullshit like "because of my situation" is no longer going to work because THIS situation it is not healthy for me.
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