what will happen if I accept the new job that has been offered? hex 28.3 -> 47

[yinwithjim]

Hello all.

I have been going through something for over a year. Maybe it's due to turning 60, and now 61? Hopes of hanging on to a younger time when fresh new starts and careers happen?

I add here a link to previous - https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/fri...g-followed-by-what-are-my-unique-gifts.35161/.

I applied and interviewed and now have been offered a per diem job as a counselor. It is something I trained to do almost 20 years ago to do and like so many things in life and life interruptions and different paths taken - here i am about to start a job - so I asked Yi, What will happen if I accept the job and I received...28.3 -> 47.

I must say that the reading leaves me wondering what the heck have I gotten myself into.

Hexagram 28 - Stripping Away. The description "more normally it feels like being flayed. Be transformed; go under the knife" makes sense - if i take the job, there will be a transformation process I'm sure. I've been doing "non-professional" type work to pay the bills and a new venture like this is sure to bring up or expose things in me that might be dormant or that I had no idea were there.

Line 3 - "Stripping away. No mistake. You're meant to undergo this. It's not wrong." This also makes sense to me and am I wrong to think positively about it? The flaying and/or stripping away is something that is supposed to happen. So, it might be rough or unpleasant but it's like anything that is good for you.

The resultant hexagram of 47. "'Confined, creating success.Constancy of a great person, good fortune.Not a mistake.There are "words, no trust.' This worries me and the words of good fortune and not a mistake are hopeful? I really don't know what to think about this.

So, bottom line...and I realize yes/no answers and Yi "telling me what to do" is not what Yi is all about.

Am I at all close to what all this means or totally off?

 

[Trojina]

You asked a question here but didn't return. Perhaps you just forgot

https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/index.php?threads/signing-up-for-a-class-this-fall-with-followup.35212/

 

[Trojina]

Hexagram 28 - Stripping Away.

Are you talking about 23 as 28 is not called 'Stripping Away'

28.3 does change to 47

Line 3 - "Stripping away. No mistake. You're meant to undergo this. It's not wrong." This also makes sense to me and am I wrong to think positively about it? The flaying and/or stripping away is something that is supposed to happen. So, it might be rough or unpleasant but it's like anything that is good for you.

This is 23.3 not 28.3.

If you got 23.3 it changes to 52 not 47 so what did you actually cast?

Looks to me like you cast 28.3 and are reading 23.3

28.3 says

'The ridgepole buckles.
Pitfall.'


Pretty self explanatory isn't it.

 

[yinwithjim]

Are you talking about 23 as 28 is not called 'Stripping Away'

28.3 does change to 47


This is 23.3 not 28.3.

If you got 23.3 it changes to 52 not 47 so what did you actually cast?

Looks to me like you cast 28.3 and are reading 23.3

28.3 says

'The ridgepole buckles.
Pitfall.'


Pretty self explanatory isn't it.

you are absolutely correct! I am so sorry! (and maybe even showing the signs of stress around all of this)

So, with all the above said, 28.3? Yikes? I feel that my angst and/or fear about this new job is logarithmically multiplied seeing, 28 - "Great Overstepping, great transition, great excess. The core idea is of 'crossing a line - that can imply an important life transition, or a transgression." have I bit off more than I can chew? a structure no longer able to support the weight? am I the structure and the new job the weight?

line 3 of 28 changing doesn't help matters at all saying, "Collapse under stress. Traditionally said to fall because of a lack of support." This really doesn't bode well.

and then with 47 resultant - "Wilhelm/Baynes: Oppression . Success. Perseverance. The great man brings about good fortune. No blame. When one has something to say, it is not believed." My thoughts about this are that good fortune in all of this will only be through my actions and not my words. That I am comfortable with because walking the walk for me is something I try to live by.

But all in all, again apologies for the 23 vs 28....the only overall thing I glean from this is that this new position will be an immense challenge (a great weight) - however - so - as you said, is 28.3 self explanatory? A disaster waiting to happen?

 

[Liselle]

Well...28 can mean collapse in a good way, if, there's something that needs to collapse.

However I do see the word pitfall in 28.3, and usually omen words mean what they say. Hm. What's the worst that could happen, though? If the job's too stressful, or doesn't pay enough (you said it's per diem, not sure what that means - is it that they'll call you when they need you, instead of having set hours?), and then maybe you'd have to leave. That would be disappointing, but maybe not horribly terrible. (Who am I to say, though.)

Did you already quit your current job? Is there any way you could do both for a little while, maybe cut back your hours at your current job but not quit it altogether, till you see how the new one is?

 

[Liselle]

(Did you see Trojina's link to one of your previous threads? You know how we love updates ...)

 

[yinwithjim]

Well...28 can mean collapse in a good way, if, there's something that needs to collapse.

However I do see the word pitfall in 28.3, and usually omen words mean what they say. Hm. What's the worst that could happen, though? If the job's too stressful, or doesn't pay enough (you said it's per diem, not sure what that means - is it that they'll call you when they need you, instead of having set hours?), and then maybe you'd have to leave. That would be disappointing, but maybe not horribly terrible. (Who am I to say, though.)

Did you already quit your current job? Is there any way you could do both for a little while, maybe cut back your hours at your current job but not quit it altogether, till you see how the new one is?

I did not quit current job and new per diem job with set hours (it's called per diem because it is less than the minimum for part-time to receive benefits) is actually more money per hour so over all it is about the same money or a little more per week - and - thankfully - if it all works out - less physically demanding which is literally the current job is "breaking my back"

still waiting on SO many HR processes at corporate level which are separate from the hiring manager who has given me the green light - and here in the US it's the big LABOR DAY WEEKEND holiday signifying the end of summer so nothing will happen until at least next Tuesday at the earliest I am sure about a final-final decision

I wonder if there is a question for Yi in there about this anxious waiting?

 

[Hans_K]

I have deleted my contribution as I believe you are quite rude. When you post a message on this forum asking others to help you and you receive that help, it seems only natural to me to at least respond.
People (including myself) put in energy and time to help you, ignoring a reaction more then one time by not responding I can't help but consider incredibly rude.
I'm not going to put any more time and energy into your posts. Let others be warned about your attitude.

 

[yinwithjim]

I have deleted my contribution as I believe you are quite rude. When you post a message on this forum asking others to help you and you receive that help, it seems only natural to me to at least respond.
People (including myself) put in energy and time to help you, ignoring a reaction more then one time by not responding I can't help but consider incredibly rude.
I'm not going to put any more time and energy into your posts. Let others be warned about your attitude.

Wow I wasn’t aware that a response was required- many times as a novice I feel honored that anyone helps with the reading at all - and are you only replying to readings for praise and not genuine interest in helping? No thanks to that

 

[Liselle]

Hans, we do have a rule about not diagnosing people's character on threads.

Jim, a response can consist of just letting the person know you've seen their reply, even simply with the thanks button. Obviously a difference between a forum and real life is people can't see other people reading posts, paying attention, nodding their heads, looking pensive, those sorts of cues.

Both - there's also a rule which says if you don't like something, use the report button... (rules are here)

 

[Hans_K]

and are you only replying to readings for praise and not genuine interest in helping?

No I don't do it for praise, but when you are ignored more than once it doesn't come across well.
In your daily life, when you help someone several times and they walk away afterwards without saying thank you or somehow showing that they appreciate your help, then I can't imagine that you like it. Everyone, and yes including me, appreciates it when an effort is "rewarded" with a thank you. Whether on this forum that is a comment or a click the Like button.
That has nothing to do with offering genuine help.

 

[Trojina]

Wow I wasn’t aware that a response was required- many times as a novice I feel honored that anyone helps with the reading at all - and are you only replying to readings for praise and not genuine interest in helping? No thanks to that

It's not really fair at all to suggest people spend time replying, and be aware it can take a lot of time to do all this, simply to get praise. Praise is not what is being asked for but simple acknowledgment that a person spent possibly 45minutes or more of their own time on your problem.

Depending on the individual, some will spend longer than others, there is all this to do.

1. Read and understand a person's question and situation
2. Get a sense of their reading, draw the reading, view it
3. Get an overview and a more nuanced view considering lines and hexagrams of context etc etc according to method
4. Applying this to the actual situation asked about
5. Composing an answer that makes sense.
6. Editing the answer to make it palatable, people can get offended when Yi's replies are blunt.
7. Type out the answer.

I don't think those who don't reply to others have much idea of how much work it can take. Just because something looks like it's easy or casually put together doesn't mean it hasn't taken some work. People are taking their time out of their day so how then is it seen as normal just to walk on by without even a cursory nod. If one doesn't want to write a reply there is just the 'thanks' button to use or 'like' button, that's enough if one doesn't feel like replying. But to not acknowledge at all is rude unless of course the answer is offensive to yourself.

You do often, to be fair, acknowledge replies but there's 3 replies in CC that have never been acknowledged at all even though you were reminded. I conclude from that you really aren't happy with what was said but I'm not sure.

I'm writing to no one here as yinwithjim has deleted his account by the look of it. But he may see this or be back. Also these are general points, my own opinion, since this happens a fair amount, in CC and here, it's not just yinwithjim.