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27
Your longtime source of nourishment is going.
Your love, your way of life together and your happiness are changing.
It's hard to let go something you've known, because that means you have to seek to nourish yourself in different ways.. change is scary!!
The quantity and quality we've familiarized ourselves with must change.
And I think that's what makes it scary.
What does everyone else think?
I hate psychologists sometimes.
Love has more than one aspect Arabella, and by your definition, Jesus was not a man of love, he was a man of sick needs.
And in the Yi there are descriptions of pure love that is not returned or recognized, of unrequited love ...
"48.3 - The Well
Nine in the third place means:
The well is cleaned, but no one drinks from it.
This is my heart's sorrow,
For one might draw from it.
If the king were clear-minded,
Good fortune might be enjoyed in common.
An able man is available. He is like a purified well whose water is drinkable.
But no use is made of him. This is the sorrow of those who know him. One
wishes that the prince might learn about it; this would be good fortune for all
concerned."
That brand of psych stuff you subscribe to really doesn't do it for me.
- LL
Ahhh..
Well not too long ago we had a long talk about our relationship.. it seems we are both conflicted and would like to make this work, but there needs to be a change in order for this to happen.
So I asked what do I need to eradicate within myself so that this can work this time..?
I did a reading before and it said if I don't rid myself of certain things then this could not work and the deterioration would start all over again. So I must make sure of something.
Anyways I got 41.2>27
Sorry, I didn't see this post.
What do I need to eradicate within myself so that this can work this time..? - 41.2>27
So, adding to my last post, 27 could still be looked at as representation of the "food of love". The nourishment you need in the realms of love. In general 41 seems to be about a true and honest offering given. Line 2 about staying on track and making only offerings that are true to you. Not anything too much or too little.
So, the answers seems to be, to eradicate offerings that are not truely nourishing to yourself.
Funny thing actually because I am in fact, positioning myself to go to school for psychology. My own problems and problems in others lives are what makes me want to be in a position to help others, others that are struggling to make sense of who they are.
I can really empathize when others say they are tired of not feeling strong enough to do what they would like to do for the best. Because I have been through alot, and my pain has taught me that maybe I can teach others to make better choices.
Or help ease their pain through understanding and listening.
Arabella, what I'm saying the relationship between two people can encompass every kind of love. All the types of relationships can exist in the fullness of a love partnership. I can love her as my sister, my lover, my mother, my daughter...
And needing to be loved in every way is not a disease. Having "missed a stage", or still having hurt from past denial of one's human needs doesn't mean one is "sick." Shrinks might like every human need to be a illness, so they can charge you to tell them about it.
Now the way we respond to not having our needs met can sometimes be sick, arrogance and cruel jealousy, self sabotage, self destructiveness, wanting to hurt others, to "teach others a lesson", narcissism, control issues... These might be sick or sick needs, but simply wanting to be loved as one has often not been is not sickness - it's human. And lamenting lost love is also human, and not a sin.
I used to listen to Transactional Analysis and Square Games Therapists argue over their differing approaches to the human condition. In the end, either approach can only take you so far, I think. But if you simply love people, it helps them and there is no downside to that. And I think God can love you however you need him to as well, empowering you, although it's not eventually a substitute for another human being.
People do have to do their own work, however.
Absolutely. People should pick the right person for them.
There is also a difference between the situation of young people, people in middle age with children, and those past child bearing years, widowed, divorced.
Some people would live out the rest of their years single if you required them to get past all their wounds before partnering again. I think it is the saddest of things when a person subscribes to the kind of psych thinking you describe, judges themselves by it, and decides that "friends with benefits" is a better way to live out their life than with someone else. I really find that sad, I have friends like that, and that's why the visceral reaction from me Arabella. It's not personal, I know you want to help people.
Even if a person is flawed and not always strong, with the love of a partner, if that person can carry a certain amount and it's appreciated, then sometimes it's quicker to deal with the past, one's baggage. WIthout a mirror of self it's harder I think, and the idea of people I love living alone for the next 30-40 years - that really hurts. We only have one life.
Read what I said again Arabella. I didn't say _you_ subscribed_ to the idea that people should better live alone, but I did say I know people that therapists have convinced are better off living their lives with casual relationships, based on this train of thought in Psychology today. Even that were in relationships, and the shrink said they shouldn't be in a relationship so they broke up, even who got divorced... If you take the ideas to their logical conclusions, you can end up in such places.
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
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