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Not sure at all if it is a "discovery" or just an idea. It did fit in very nice, all of it, and who knows - it might be the truth. I don't think anybody will ever know for sure, because it happened all so long ago.
I am more and more convinced that the whole Yi is a very beautiful structure of life and math. Not math as dry numbers, but as the foundation of universe. There was a book some time ago "A beginners guide to constructing the universe", I love that book. Plants and math, sound and math, stars and math, everything uses it, lives by it, grows by it.
I don't think one comes from the other, all things come from that same base with the same structures.
Robert, how does your idea of the gnomon fit in with LiSe's discovery of the origin of the hexagrams?
http://www.yijing.nl/i_ching/origins/index.html
FROM GUI TO GUA
I am more and more convinced that the whole Yi is a very beautiful structure of life and math. Not math as dry numbers, but as the foundation of universe.
And not dry math, but math as a concept that symbolizes a model for Time and Space.
All I know is that that the Yi Jing, the gnomon, the calendar, agriculture (death and regeneration), the early Bagua and late Bagua, music and sound, the hexagrams, the Lo Shu, and the He Tu are connected through Math with the rest of the universe or wan, the ten thousand things.
And not dry math, but math as a concept that symbolizes a model for Time and Space.
This is the principle reason of Fu Shi and Nu Wa emphatically holding these "tools" demonstrating the intricate relationships of yin and yang, female and male, the square and the circle, the calendar and the four cardinal directions.(Schinz, The Magic Square)
Guess I see the universe as analog, more like the beating of a heart.
Straight, square, great.
Without purpose,
Yet nothing remains unfurthered.
The symbol of heaven is the circle, and that of earth is the square. Thus squareness is a primary quality of the earth. On the other hand, movement in a straight line, as well as magnitude, is a primary quality of the Creative (1). But all square things have their origin in a straight line and in turn form solid bodies. In mathematics, when we discriminate between lines, planes and solids, we find that rectangular planes result from straight lines, and cubic magnitudes from rectangular planes. The Receptive (2) accommodates itself to the qualities of the Creative (1) and makes them its own. Thus a square develops out of a straight line and a cube out of a square. This is compliance with the laws of the Creative (1); nothing is taken away, nothing added. Therefore the Receptive (2) has no need of a special purpose of its own, nor of any effort" yet everything turns out as it should.
Nature creates all beings without erring: this is its foursquareness. It tolerates all creatures equally: this is its greatness. Therefore it attains what's right for all without artifice or special intentions. Man achieves the height of wisdom when all that he does is as self-evident as what nature does.
Robert,
You're no doubt familiar with this 2.2 commentary from Wilhelm?
I wonder if you'd care to comment on it.
As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. Albert Einstein
The yin yang symbol seems to be visible in the full moon.
This was brought to my attention by Ken Taylors Early Heaven Oracle.
It is generally believed that the Tai Ji Tu diagram originated from Daoist circles and is attributed to Chen Tuan, a famous Daoist priest from about 930 – 990 AD, and then fell into the hands of Zhou Dunyi less than a hundred years later.
Most all of the diagrams had a long tradition maybe for thousands of years, as probably did the Tai Ji Tu, prior to Chen Tuan’s transmissions. Most all the diagrams are related to math, the four cardinal directions, the five elements and the four seasons (the calendar).
I think I'm going to have to ask for some support for your rather bold statement that
"Most all of the diagrams had a long tradition maybe for thousands of years".
I've never seen any indication or evidence of these going back any further than the Song or Chen Tuan, and I have been looking.
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