How Does 23.4 become Progress...Hex 35?

I've read some archival threads on this one, but can't find anything that really equates with the situation I am in. This is about work and an incident which occcured recently. On two occasions, I brought a problem of liability to the attention of my supervisor who basically ignored me. We are actually friends, but whatever was going on with her a few weeks ago, she just didn't want to hear what I was saying and gave an opinion that was 180 degrees from Company policy AND from where she was last time we discussed any of this. She was fairly hot when I mentioned this problem a second time and the clear message was to "can it."

As the liability involved in the problem is enormous I simply addressed the question to authorities over her head, knowing if the thing blew up, the Company would have real trouble and I'd be blamed for not being more persistent. The problem then was taken care of, quickly, by my supervisor, when higher authority insisted she would listen. She did a good job solving the issue, but also sent an email telling me to never go beyond her authority again as it caused lots of trouble for her. I explained to her why I had done it and that she had left the company, and me, exposed by refusing to listen both times I brought the issue up. She seemed to accept what I said and we let it go at that.

Fast forward a week. I am called in for a meeting alone with my supervisor an hour before the office opens, to discuss new policies and procedures. We are a few minutes into the discussion when she says that she has received a letter from a professional association criticising my customer relations techniques and implying that they are questioning their ties to our Company as a result. I asked her to read the letter and she refused to let me see it. She also refused to say WHY I couldn't see it, but just flatly turned me down. I think this really unethical, but she says the only point she wanted to make is that I will be required to completely change my attitude and behavior on the job.

I've thought about this overnight and today called her to again request the letter and she became quite furious. We've scheduled a meeting on Monday as she refused to talk over the telephone about it.

There are several possibiltiies I can think of here. I feel there truly is a letter that says something detrimental about our company. I notice in the few days since she said the letter arrived, she has made some big changes in how she herself is presenting some of our product and behaving in customer relations. In regard to me and my performance, however, I realise she may be reacting out of anger because I went over her head a week before, and now is telling me I have caused all this problem, exaggerating basically.

Then again, it could be that I'm not really named in the letter at all, but she's using its mysterious existence to make a point of her authority. Or another possibility: these situation aren't related and she, as not only a supervisor but a personal friend, doesn't want me to see the letter because it truly is hurtful. Or there could be other explanations.

Anyway, I am baffled and upset that I still don't REALLY know what I'm supposed to have said or done that caused the criticism because I can't see this letter. At the moment, a follow up meeting is scheduled for Monday, at my request.

I've asked the IChing -- "Why won't X let me see the letter?" The casting was 23.4 changing to 35. As said, I can't find a previous situation that seems to equate with mine in the Clarity archives and I am stumped what this reading has to do with the issue. Thoughts anyone? All help is much appreciated.

Hi Arabella,
Well that certainly is an uncomfortable situation your in, and I think Hex 23 is a confirmation that this situation is not healthy for your relationship with your boss and the company.
"Why won't X let me see the letter?"
I think the image of cutting up to the skin could hint that she feels exposed. She doesn't want you to see the letter because it was not only a critique of your performance, but hers (and the department?) as well. She feels threatened and does not want you to know about all the details. If you want to make peace and and cooperate, I wouldn't push her for any more information. She should tell you how you need to improve, just ask her for that.
Good luck!

PS
As for it changing into 35, 35 is an image of the bright sun rising over the earth. The exposure creates light where things had been hidden and murky. I think she may be afraid that information in the letter could still be used against her, if the wrong eyes focus in on it. ?
Just a guess.

Anapurna, this is the instinctive feeling I've had too -- that the letter is more about her and the company image that is being built than about me, but somehow I'm being asked to "wear" the disgrace of it to suit her vengeful mood. I'm willing to be wrong, and she and I are still friends. I just think it's some kind of testimony to the weakness of her position that she hasn't let me see what was actually written. Also, what she has described to me from the letter would be tantamount to an outside agency writing with the intent to have me fired. What other reason would a professional association [not even a company mind you] have to write to our Company and mention me specifically as a problem? And why would this dislike of something I had said in their customer satisfaction "tour" inspire them to part "company" with our entire organisation? To be honest, I wasn't aware of their visit, nor of what I was quoted as saying about one of our products -- supposedly in a horribly rude way. It's all a bizarre sounding scenario and I feel that much is being hidden for the wrong purposes, although I dislike being suspicious.

Yes, the whole line of 23.4 sounds horribly painful. LiSe's reading of it refers to "irreversible mistakes and faults and even destruction." And I think the irreversiblity might be that, if I knew for certain what lies are being told here, our relationship as friends, or colleagues,would never work again. Really sad. Because I've demanded to see the letter, I've been accused of not taking criticism gracefully. I have a feeling the shoe may be on the other foot and her wounded pride is the real issue. What can come of all this, I just don't know.

Find a better job and buy your current boss a copy of The One Minute Manager. Kidding, sorta. That's some of the worst management style I've ever heard of. Every employee has a right to know what good performance looks like, and it sounds like she left that part out. I won't try to guess or claim to know whether you were or were not mentioned in that letter, but either way, she showed poor leadership.

How does it relate to your reading? Something's got to give or go. Either you will have to buy into the new plan or you may lose your gig.

I think the fan yao of 35.4 is relevant here, which can be thought of as multi-tasking beyond ones ability, the Peter Principle, taking on too much at once. It could speak to your boss, yourself, or maybe both, or to management or stock holders.

From all this, I suggest staying singularly focused on your tasks, and not engage in who is right conversations with your boss. That is, unless you prefer my first suggestion.

Thanks Meng. It is a bind because where I am right now, this job is one of a kind. I've always thought that I enjoyed the work, until recently, when all this started happening. It is true, the company is going through a big shift. There's so much flying, and although I'm not in charge, I have more experience of business than those who are, which makes it even more complicated. They are basically good people, but not tempered with fire yet. Right now IS the fire for them. So we see how they fare. I think I'll take your final suggestion for now, nose to the grindstone and let it go. I'll never know the truth of it I suppose. But forcing the issue to find out will bring in the ceiling I think.

Meng, by the way, where do you see the Hexagram 35 coming into the reading? Also, is there a better question I should be asking?

arabella said:

Meng, by the way, where do you see the Hexagram 35 coming into the reading? Also, is there a better question I should be asking?

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Your assessment of what I tried to say is good.

35 can be expressed as the way to progress, not only as an omen of success. One way to progress is to avoid mistakes, such as in 23.4. Another way to progress is to use what means/tools/skills are available, such as in 35 in general as well as in line 5: bringing a nice string of fish to the managers, which they bring proudly to the owners/stockholders, and say "What a good boy or girl am I!": making them look good through your seasoned skill can still lead to your progress, even if you take no credit for it. Every young officer relies on his seasoned NCO (non-commissioned petty officer) to get it done. It's often the most secure place to be. If you're interested in taking on more responsibility, you take on more risk too. That's a holistic way of viewing progress. Someone can progress through holding a lesser position, if the position suits their nature and they enjoy it. Or, they can go for that golden ring when Ti Ming is right. No right or wrong, only what suits your nature best and what the time requires.

arabella said:

"Why won't X let me see the letter?" The casting was 23.4 changing to 35.

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It suggests that she won't show you the letter because you are not mentioned in it, she's the one in trouble and is basically just trying to shake your tree. Its the old tit for tat game, but she is the only person in trouble and wants you to have a few spoonfuls of s*** as well.

Now on to Hex 35, which is simple advice. You are trying to see the truth(letter) but its highly doubtful that you ever will, so stop bothering with it and her, just keep cool as you know its all BS. Its a game, so just let it go and forget about it as you are not in trouble. Personally, I would not even show up to the meeting on Monday as all you can expect is more of the same nonsense..

arabella said:

Meng, by the way, where do you see the Hexagram 35 coming into the reading? Also, is there a better question I should be asking?

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You seem to have gotten quite far with the question you did ask...but if i may butt in for a moment I think what you really need to know here isn't why someone else did what they did but how you need to react to it. You can't change why someone did what they did though insight into their actions seems productive for you here....you also need to know what you need to do/how to respond. The reasons for them doing what they did may not necessarily be a great guide for what you need to do...though it puts you in the picture it also sort of leaves you out of it..so an additional question re what/how you best respond might be useful ?

Thanks one and all, terrific advice here that I will use to get through this really uncomfortable situation. The major issue I have with my supervisor, and the rest of the management team really, is that I know I got drafted in for a ganga price as there are no jobs in the area, I am a foreigner here [out of my own culture] and yet I have more experience in the field than any of them, and I'm literally helping them to write the book on how to run their young company. They are pleased to have expert help for nearly nothing -- and yet they resent it like mad being young and ego-driven. 'The management, including my boss, has been set up in business by wealthy relatives who started the company; now they're in the position of taking over and being trusted to run it -- which is a new development that I won for them by explaining deftly to Board and stockholders why they had to trust a management team to take it on and expand their investment. So now, here I am, an underpaid underling, and yet I generally like the people and the idea they have built into a viable, potentially thriving enterprise. I work my "regular" job and then also perform as their mentor and strategic guide. And then, they use their new-found professional identity to critique my performance in a relatively menial job they have asked me to handle day to day.

It's a weird spot to be in and a true balancing act. I can't just do the strategic role, however, because in fact they can't afford me. It has to be a friendly, almost gratis thing. Unfortunately, they have begun to treat it as "gratis" and worse as they attempt to enact what I'm recommending they do to develop and dump criticism on me rather than taking managerial responsibility. As I'm writing this in explanation, I'm really seeing for the first time the true bind of all this. So thanks for thinking this through with me. I'm thinking as Willow Fox says, cancel the meeting, I know what's going on, so don't belabour the point. The letter is from the Association to their management team, criticising how they are handling the business, their product, which is quite valuable and they are taking for granted -- as they do everything at the moment to do with their magical success. Now I feel certain of that much.

What I need is what Trojan is advising too: draw a bead on how to behave in the situation. So recast for more advice.

Having recast now, I asked the question: How do I best respond to Xs treatment of me in this situation? And I have received 42, unchanging. Wow. Not what I expected at all. Of course, there isn't any hexagram that says to hit her with a piece of heavy furniture, is there?

So, Increase. Increase what I am doing? Continue to be generous with her and support her, even though she's pulled this trap around me? Demand a raise? I have to say, it is the most ham-fisted human resources approach on record. I'm not sure it's intentional, so much as incompetent. Maybe increase what I am trying to teach them? Another dimension here, they do have a person they hired before I arrived, who is occupying a management position that would have ideally suited my skills. She has inspired some of what is going on now with my boss; I think because her lack of education for the job, that she works mostly from native instinct rather than any professional background or preparation, leaves her feeling vulnerable. They have been worried from the start that she will see me as a threat. This, and budgetary constraints, are the reasons that they ask me to "on the record" hold a basic position while being paid additionally as a consultant rather than having a formal fulltime mangement "role". Anyway, the letter and other criticism my supervisor is now dealing with, all came from this third person, whom I apparently threaten. I suppose, this puts my boss in a squeeze-play as well.

I know, it's really complicated and too much emotion is invested to make much professional sense of events. But Increase, hexagram 42, is certainly a focused answer. NOW all I have to do, is figure what behavior that calls for. If you have any further ideas, all contributions gratefully accepted!

arabella said:

Having recast now, I asked the question: How do I best respond to Xs treatment of me in this situation? And I have received 42, unchanging.

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If you see her treatment as being nasty, don't copy it by trying to attack her, demanding evidence etc. Drop it and her, as you need to rid yourself of all "evil" influences emanating from her. Just be docile and quiet as what's the point of challenging this woman, it will only make things worse, again, my advice is the same as for Hex 35, let it go and sooner or later the thing will blow over.

arabella said:

Having recast now, I asked the question: How do I best respond to Xs treatment of me in this situation? And I have received 42, unchanging. Wow. Not what I expected at all. Of course, there isn't any hexagram that says to hit her with a piece of heavy furniture, is there?

So, Increase. Increase what I am doing? Continue to be generous with her and support her, even though she's pulled this trap around me? Demand a raise? I have to say, it is the most ham-fisted human resources approach on record. I'm not sure it's intentional, so much as incompetent. Maybe increase what I am trying to teach them? Another dimension here, they do have a person they hired before I arrived, who is occupying a management position that would have ideally suited my skills. She has inspired some of what is going on now with my boss; I think because her lack of education for the job, that she works mostly from native instinct rather than any professional background or preparation, leaves her feeling vulnerable. They have been worried from the start that she will see me as a threat. This, and budgetary constraints, are the reasons that they ask me to "on the record" hold a basic position while being paid additionally as a consultant rather than having a formal fulltime mangement "role". Anyway, the letter and other criticism my supervisor is now dealing with, all came from this third person, whom I apparently threaten. I suppose, this puts my boss in a squeeze-play as well.

I know, it's really complicated and too much emotion is invested to make much professional sense of events. But Increase, hexagram 42, is certainly a focused answer. NOW all I have to do, is figure what behavior that calls for. If you have any further ideas, all contributions gratefully accepted!

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I'd be inclined to go with that (the underlined) for the time being I think. It seems the most positive course of action if you think of the alternatives...which would be...I don't know..withdrawing support, expressing annoyance etc ? I'd guess right now, as others have said, shes really miffed because she feels exposed by you where she felt you should support her (23.4) but the very fact you had to go over her head showed she was neglecting to give heed to those 'beneath' her ie you..so she bought all this on herself...and deep down she must know that...and possibly also knows what you did was right and you did it for the right reasons. Meanwhile your best bet seems to me from this, especially looking at the Image, as its 42 unchanging not to go with her into negativity at all but to increase your positive efforts, put more in, don't decrease your comittment to the work in any way. That is your best response to her treatment of you right now I think

as an afterthought because its 42 unchanging I'm wondering if thisis a case of putting in more just because thats the way to go but its not necessarily going to bring any expected reward...doing it is enough

Synchronistically i had 42 unchanging for a similar situation in some work i was doing recently...i felt i was being rather nastily critisized for trying to do my best to help. I asked 'how to respond to this' got 42 unchanging decided to take it as I said above...seems to have worked okay for me...the person can still critisize but my juice is still flowing ...and then they stopped critisizing anyway, and i was glad I hadn't withdrawn my energy from the situation...

I'd say likewise.

Part of 42's meaning is to be filled, the other part is to fill. Like 27, part is to be nourished, the other part is to nourish. Or 48, to drink from the well, and also to be a well. etc..

The thing you don't want to happen is to become the nail to their hammer, to be the fall guy for the sake of their increase. And that stuff happens all the time in these (what they love to label as) "paradigm shifts", which all too often is just a cliche for more micromanagement.

It's a tough position to be in for a strong and upright person with the ability to get it done (increase the place through your efforts).

Of course the challenge is to remain that strong and upright person, even when things don't go your way. The better you are at your work, the greater the chances that it will be noticed eventually. Smart owners/active stockholders become aware of who their real product champions are, but they want the right attitude with it. Being really good at something places someone in either a more secure or more precarious place, because the nearer you are to the top, the closer you become to the door. You can ask for more money, once they admit to needing you, but if you threaten any one of their security and position, then you increase no one, and someone actually strikes you (see 42.6):

He brings increase to no one.
Indeed, someone even strikes him.
He doesn't keep his heart constantly steady.
Misfortune.

Or 42.4:

If you walk in the middle
And report to the prince,
He will follow.
It furthers one to be used
In the removal of the capital.
(Bradford translates as "moving the capital", which I'm quite sure is a more correct way of saying increasing cash flow.)

One could say, but you didn't receive any change lines. All changes lines belong to the hexagram, in a more general sense, if you want to know more about the hexagram's landscape. The above shows two different possibilities.

If you "get it done", show an example based on provable results, you'll get noticed. If you get involved with office politics, good luck. During these kinds of policy changes (I've come to hate the term paradigm shift due to these very kinds of experiences) you have to especially watch the ones on top (active stockholders or CEO), who may try to lure you into confidential conversations about your managers, which they will then (in their sheer stupidity) directly quote to your supervisors, and you will become the fall guy.

I think your readings, together, point the way more to something which looks like line 4.

Your answer was Hex 42 and you only need to study the "image".

Ooops! Didn't even read what you wrote hence the mistake. Tired after watching people get killed last night.

Wf, was that really necessary?

I already explained my conversational context and reasons for sighting those lines, which was in response to Arabella's question, directed to me. I think Arabella is quite intelligent enough to understand for herself, and if she has questions about what I wrote, she can ask me.

Thanks SO much to all of you who responded on this. For one thing, it's made me be calm and think carefully and I think the discussion on this was so well-rounded. Everybody's opinions points to one thing it seems and that's not to get my knickers in a twist, go forward deliberately and don't sacrifice any of my own dearly held values about professionalism in this scenario. Went into work today [I work most weekends] with the resolve that I wouldn't let this throw me, hang tough and smile, give it more effort than ever, as Trojan is saying tonight.

Interestingly, two of the owners [majority stockholders] came by on a surprise weekend visit and made very supportive comments of my work and a few not so supportive comments about my boss. I thanked them for their praise but didn't comment at all on what was said about my supervisor. I guess instinctively I had in mind what Meng is saying here. You get all confidential with backbiting and sooner or later it's going to backfire. So I just "kept my cool" as WFox recommended earlier on, expecting it WLL blow over and when it does, I want all these lousy feelings to be gone for everybody.

I also had a phone message tonight from somebody "back home" who is sending me information on actively consulting at an international level in the same type of work I'm doing here [for loads more money] but, obviously, involving a lot of travel. At least there is something in the wings to think about.

I guess we all agree, the sooner I get this poison out of my bloodstream, the better. Thanks again all, your advice came up trumps.

A follow up to this reading. More has transpired yesterday at work. My supervisor arrived for the day, loaded for bear. There was no bear -- just me. I wanted to make peace with her and suggested that anything I had to say on what had happened I would like to put into future strategy for the company; suggestions on how things could flow more smoothly between supervisor and employee, based on the problem we had just had. She blew her stack and demanded a meeting. Demanded I come in on my day off for the meeting. And stormed out. I called her later on and, having canceled a medical appointment to do it, suggested instead we could meet after work and suggested a third person who was objective be present? She was angry, but agreed and said she would invite someone who had received serious complaints about me as well. When I got there, the Company's director had been called in. Good Grief!

It began as a potentially scarey experience, but I managed to keep cool. He asked ME what the meeting was about and I explained the other party has demanded it, but I could give a history of the problem if he liked, from my point of view. My supervisor looked really distraught when he let me do just that -- give my version of what went on and how confused I felt. And then I asked, as I was really upset by the criticisms from my supervisor, how I had managed to upset the company's relationship with a professional credentialing agency and could I see the letter detailinng their criticisms of me?

Guys, there was no letter. Never was. I was in shock. The supervisor didn't even look at me. I didn't drive the point home either. She was caught in an outright lie, dead to rights. I don't know if the director mediating realised; if he did he didn't say so but just kept on with the conversation in a constructive way.

He told me the supervisor had just had a few recommendations for improving on the job performance and if I didn't have a copy of those, he would get one for me. This is being given to everybody in my department to focus on for the next several weeks, and see where we get with it, as the whole company has gotten criticisms about personal greetings, friendliness, and so forth, with customers. All the criticisms were people who spoke to directors at various times -- about random things on all areas of the Company. There were enough complaints that he was addressing them. He was implementing new company-wide tactics for treating customers more personably. He said we would review that, in my case, in two weeks when I have a job review. Fair enough.

The supervisor then had a chance to talk as the Company director had asked her to wait until I was finished speaking. She said nothing. I asked her were we OK with each other then. Her comment, "We always were." Blow me down with a feather. What was it all about?

Last night I was just too far into it all to even enquire about reasons, still couldn't see woods for trees. Today, I've asked IChing, "Why did she lie to me?"

The answer: Hexagram 19, judgment. I don't get it. Is this the eighth month? I've worked with her for a year, by the way. It's been ok really. Up until now, we've remained friends and I think I've contributed a lot worth having. So far as my actual job performance, I'm told I can be "too executive" and that it's better to be more personable, and dont' take life so seriously. This is my personality, and something I've had to be aware of forever, so that's not surprising. How this has come around though was shocking to me -- out of the blue. I've thought it came out of her anger, being exposed for ignoring liability issues and my demanding they be addressed. Hexagram 19? Have things grown too fast and she is just overwhelmed? Any ideas?

arabella said:

"Why did she lie to me?"

The answer: Hexagram 19,

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I said in my first answer that you weren't mentioned in the letter, that it was all BS, and now I know the reason why, no letter in the first place. There you go.

Why did she lie? Because she was trying to teach you a "lesson", so she chose something hurtful to hit you with, so becareful, she doesn't seem to like you.

Can anyone elaborate on Hexagram 19? The meaning I've known is "Approach" which always sounds quite positive in most readings. Why was this "approach" so negative? Is lying going to be the way she approaches me? Or are there meanings here I don't know?

Willow Fox, I know she's pretty scarey. I guess part of the message is if you cross here in some way, she will stop short of nothing, just unload, to get her own back. The weird part though is that, short of some sleepless nights for me, she gained nothing. If anything, her own supervisor now knows how she lied to push my buttons. Pretty stupid really. And stupid me, I thought we were friends.

arabella said:

Can anyone elaborate on Hexagram 19? The meaning I've known is "Approach" which always sounds quite positive in most readings. Why was this "approach" so negative? Is lying going to be the way she approaches me? Or are there meanings here I don't know?

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I have already answered this question, you need to look at the "image" about the boss (her)teaching you a lesson.

Ok, I've been looking at the general image more closely now and I can see the aspect of "Teaching" you are talking about here. I suppose I've always thought of 19 in such a positive light: expansion and growth. As a person probably suffering from the expansion and growth problems at work, if this lady losing her grip? I mean, for a year, we've been great friends. This is anomalous what she has done.

And I've also found this statement in the archives, posted by Ginnie:

When the IC answers with hex 19 unchanging, it is telling me something along these lines: "Good question! Good approach that you thought to ask a question! Ask more questions along these same lines, and things will become clearer for you."

So I've aksed, "What is she trying to teach me?" And I got Hexagram 57, changing lines 3,4,5,6; becoming Hexagram 40. Hmmmm. I've gotten this before about Seal Assignment. But whose assignment: hers or mine? Does she see this as a life mission and I'm in the way of it? And what are we releasing here? In a way, her behavior I think is so ingrained in her anxiety ridden personality, she almost has no choice but to react in a bizarre way when overloaded. And now I'm eminently aware of it. Was this just a "release" for her -- and now she can live to regret being perceived as untrustworthy? Thoughts?

Willow, I know you are the Fox, gliding in and out silently, more or less. But I really appreciate when you provide some explanation of how you got there. Do you have the hexagrams more or less in mind all the time from prior experience, or do you actually refer to various books as you go?

arabella said:

Ok, I've been looking at the general image more closely now and I can see the aspect of "Teaching" you are talking about here. I suppose I've always thought of 19 in such a positive light: expansion and growth. As a person probably suffering from the expansion and growth problems at work, if this lady losing her grip? I mean, for a year, we've been great friends. This is anomalous what she has done.

And I've also found this statement in the archives, posted by Ginnie:

When the IC answers with hex 19 unchanging, it is telling me something along these lines: "Good question! Good approach that you thought to ask a question! Ask more questions along these same lines, and things will become clearer for you."

So I've aksed, "What is she trying to teach me?" And I got Hexagram 57, changing lines 3,4,5,6; becoming Hexagram 40. Hmmmm. I've gotten this before about Seal Assignment. But whose assignment: hers or mine? Does she see this as a life mission and I'm in the way of it? And what are we releasing here? In a way, her behavior I think is so ingrained in her anxiety ridden personality, she almost has no choice but to react in a bizarre way when overloaded. And now I'm eminently aware of it. Was this just a "release" for her -- and now she can live to regret being perceived as untrustworthy? Thoughts?

Willow, I know you are the Fox, gliding in and out silently, more or less. But I really appreciate when you provide some explanation of how you got there. Do you have the hexagrams more or less in mind all the time from prior experience, or do you actually refer to various books as you go?

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the way i see it you have no reason to suppose shes trying to teach you anything...so the question 'what is she trying to teach me' maybe totally redundant and not what you need to know anyway.

why she does what she does is anyones guess in the end., noone here can tell you for sure, though they can have a good guess, as i did, what her motives are...but its just a guess. All you need to know is how best to act for yourself in this situation.

Here you built a question on a false assumption from a previous question that she was trying to teach you something...maybe shes not trying to teach you anything, maybe shes just reacting

I know what you mean Trojan. And I'm not thinking "teaching" in the positive sense now either. I'm thinking more like "teach you a lesson," as in react without any motives but her own anger, as WF is suggesting. Yes, as you say, just reacting. So maybe I phrased the question wrongly anyway.

I always have this idea that if I can understand what people are driving at, there's no need for conflict. Unless they are purely nuts, you can work around them. Maybe that is purely nuts. Okay. Thinking here again. What's the right question in terms of what Ginnie was saying. If Hexagram 19, judgment, is instructing you to keep going along the same line but ask a better question -- what is the better question to ask?

Think how you upset this woman before, now she's dishing you out a lesson. You hurt me, now see how it feels to be on the receiving end.

Darn, I wouldn't trust this woman, especially with this vindictive, tit for tat thing.

For this answer you need to see the negative side of the image, much like a reversed tarot card, because she lied to cause you hurt and agitation, and she partially succeeded.

Also, keep your eye on the question, as Hex 19 will indeed answer your question and you have no need to look further.

Jesed, I have been thinking a while about what you have said here. Can both be true then? Can an otherwise noble person make a big mistake in anger? I mean, I've never SEEN her so revved up. We are normally friends: at work and everywhere else. To have questioned her and, furthermore, to have acted on those questions by going over her head seems to have unleashed some incredible force here. I have to say, I am shocked. I wouldn't have foreseen this in a million years. And, weirdly, I feel sorry for her, like some button has been pushed in this past week that totally splattered her. This is the reason I wanted to know WHY? It's kind of a like a broken egg and you can't put it back. I'm glad to have closed the hole in the Company's liability, but I feel really terrible about the rest of it.

You know, at the beginning of this thread, several opinions were put forward that it was better not to push the situation, just do the best job possible and increase whatever was necessary to do it.

And Trojan confirmed my question, Should I be generous with her and support her even though she has pulled a trap around me?, by saying that would be the best idea. That was from Hexagram 42, a casting on how to go forward in the situation.

Meng suggested something about "multi-tasking beyond one's ability," as a possible impetus to her reactions.

I may never entirely know. But it somehow rings true that, even with the lie, she is in over her head, wants to be noble, and doesn't know how to in the "crisis" she is feeling. She wants to have control and doesn't. She is doing desperate things that are totally out of character.

arabella said:

"Why did she lie to me?"

The answer: Hexagram 19,

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From LiSe

Overseeing.
Eminent - expansion. Harvest - determination. Reaching the eighth moon there is a pitfall.​

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tr.v., -saw (-sô'), -seen (-sēn'), -see·ing, -sees.

• To watch over and direct; supervise. See synonyms at supervise.
• To subject to scrutiny; examine or inspect.

verb

1. To direct and watch over the work and performance of others: boss, overlook, superintend, supervise, watch over. See over/under.

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