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His speculations were good but not definitive.
Hi lightofreason
That's just why I prefer C.G. Jung. He did not try to put everything into one system, because he was clever enough
to know, that there are no such system and will never be such a system. His main interest was the unconciosness.
That's too my main interest and that's why I deal with readings of the Book of Changes.
lienshan said:But I'm too interested in the pre-history of I Ching. I think, that it sharpens my mind to reconstruct the legendary Yarrowstalk Oracle. Others prefer to search for the correct translations of the I Ching texts. Some like the mother, others prefer the daughter
PS. Here is an examble of what turns me on:
http://www.yijing.nl/i_ching/books/rutt.htm
My first thought was: hexagram 59 above is turned upside down? I've skeptical eyes My next thought was: Something is wrong with the numbers of the hexagrams below? No 2-3-4 numbers? From my knowledge of the backwards-moving numbers I know, that the ancient numbers were from 2 to 9, so the 1's are maybe misunderstood by the authors? I would name the 5 hexagrams Zhouyi no. 12.1.2.3.5 Zhouyi no. 46.1.5.6. Zhouyi no. 63.1 Zhouyi no. 59.1.4 Zhouyi 53.1.4.
Seems they used the numbers 1, 5, 6, 7, and 8. Now how you get those numbers from turtles is anyone's guess.
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/maths.html
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If You instead of counting by the topline count by the bottom line it looks like this:
0 ::I 7 :I: 4 :II 3 III 1 II: 6 I:I 5 I:: 2 (moon order of the trigrams)
0 ::I 7 I:I 5 :II 3 III 1 II: 6 :I: 4 I:: 2 (Fu Shi order of the trigrams)
0 :II 3 III 1 :I: 4 I:: 2 ::I 7 II: 6 I:I 5 (Wen order of the trigrams)
I find it interesting, that the Fu Shi order is in "math order" when counted from bottom
Jacques
The two Zhou bones have five socalled 1's but no 7's
The three Chang bones have one socalled 1's but six 7's
This statistic material is limited but indicate, that the socalled 1's are maybe simplified 7's?
To me it looks like the inscriptions are not only even and odd but too steady and changing lines?
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