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What if *all* of those changing lines were significant, each and every one?
What if *all* of those changing lines were significant, each and every one?
I like the close up and distant analogy of a painting. There's the danger of missing the forest for trees when it's all close up; looking at fingerprints but not the rest of the body. I'm too curious to let a line go by without consideration. Doesn't mean they all weigh-in the same in my head, but maybe one I don't quite get now will be the one which makes the most sense later. Not every line deals with the present.
Meng
When you say 'not every line deals with the present' do you have a process for establishing which does or doesn't come first in the sequence? Or is it only with teh benefit of eagle eyed hindsight that you see the sequencing of thechanging lines?
Mike
Personally I never reckon with any sequence in time of lines.
It takes a lot of patience though. You can't do this when you're consulting every day.
Or maybe you can. But I can't.
Hi Mike,
I don't have a strong need for immediate absolute closure concerning certain readings I do for myself. Some readings, sure, the answer is very plain, and often anticipated, more or less. But with many active lines, I weigh them and then keep a watchful eye for lines as they play out, even if they resolve through my own gradual understanding over time. (I'm very dense in some ways.)
Some lines, such as warnings, don't have to play out at all, assuming I heed the advise in a timely manner. Other times, lines of good fortune don't play out because somewhere along the line I failed to recognize and/or execute a favorable opportunity.
Still other times, I'm trying to squeeze blood from a turnip, where the matter isn't very complex at all, except in my own head. In this case many lines can be a real mind f***, and it's better to not play with them too much, 57.3 or 6.
I try to remain open to a reading as it unfolds (if even just in my mind), rather than always trying to resolve it immediately. 64 rather than 63 way of looking at it.
I don't think anyone can be right or wrong about how it "is". It is how you personally believe it is. Or what makes sense to you. It is an oracle, it answers to intuition, hunches, feelings, times, possibilities. Not to anything you can write down and keep. It is the book of changes, about changes. In yourself and outside.Maybe this was just wishful thinking and LiSe and Dobro are nearer the mark.Mike
I don't think anyone can be right or wrong about how it "is". It is how you personally believe it is. Or what makes sense to you. It is an oracle, it answers to intuition, hunches, feelings, times, possibilities. Not to anything you can write down and keep. It is the book of changes, about changes. In yourself and outside.
So don't believe me.
I usually see the relating hex as the big picture of where I am at this moment, or how this situation looks. The primary hex as the things I can do or should know about it. Works great. So it would then not be 50 to 3, but 50 in 3. A 3-time in which the best attitude is 50, and the best actions the ones of the 50-lines.
Everyone has his/her own way to read an answer. The best way is always your 'own' way, the one of your heart.
Love your description! I am a bit late with my answer because things have been rather busy around here.Hi LiSe
This has been turning round in my mind the last few days and it seems to make sense, however it does turn things on their head somewhat. Here's a few musings.....
In the majority of readings I have made I see the primary hex as where you are now, and the moving lines as the choices or steps you could take(free will allowing) to move you from here to a different place.
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A very linear type of approach - controlled and contained.
Your method of thinking is sort of saying I'm sitting in a resultant hex pool at the moment , and if I approach the situation in a primary hex sort of way and take on board the following moving line actions or attitudes then I will move from where I am, the situation will change. Where am I going to end up though ? This new place has no name, it's just going to be somewhere different from where I was. This seems a much more fearless and open way to approach the reading. I know where I am, I know what I should know and should do......but I don't know where it's going to end up.
Food for thought indeed. It does show how each person's approach is one that suits them best for how they are now. Interesting !!
Mike
I'm not painted myself into a tight corner... I have actual sources to support my saying. First of all, you did not put your actual yi-ching up here. If you did we can all discuss about it. Second, I know you guys hated me for I have an entire different method. Third as I said, you may not phrase your problem correctly, you may thinking something else while asking. I did not put myself into tight corner, I do have real life example I did years ago that I preserve it for study. Also this rule applies to your method as well believe it or not. If you say everything is orderly, but do your reading actually happen as the way you predicted? If you use it as guidance not as prediction, then you can ignore me.
I do not come here to prove I am better, I simply want to share with you guys for many of you cannot read Chinese. It sort of upset me that this board is so vicious toward new ideas which is really not new at all. This is the method you see people use all the time in Asian countries. Again I am not saying using philosophical approach is bad, it is simply more as a guidance instead of tell you what exactly will happen. For certain people, guidance is all they need. I have used everyone's method first year in my learning, it is fairly accurate often sufficient. Yet There are sometimes in life people cannot simply wait. For example I have someone coming in, his father is sick, he needs to find out if his father will get well or not since he cannot attend to his father immediately due to the fact that it takes 1 day to fly back to his country. He is desperate for an exact answer, and i-ching hex meaning will most likely to you to wait. But what I might do for him more is to tell him the approximation date that his father will continue to live, and he may go home and take care of his father in the best of his ability without regret.
Honestly, people play nice...
I am extremely positive that I know the answer to this question. All lines moving means chaos, rarely happen but it does happen. Chaos means the situation is so chaotic that one must toss the coin again. Very often one receive such reading is because the person who is making the coin toss is not serious enough or focus on the question. Or simply asking a question that does not and will not happen. all lines moving is the only case that one allows to re-toss the coin and ask the exact same question again.
ion, then you can ignore me.
This is the method you see people use all the time in Asian countries.
Dude, lighten up. No one hates you. But when someone comes in waving laws in everyone's face, saying this is the way, I know because someone wrote it down once.. you can expect a little rebuff.
I studied I-ching, 紫薇 no ideal what it is in English
Clarity,
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