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elizabeth

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I know I may get bashed for this, but I did ask another question.

Before you bash me, however, let me explain why and what I asked.

I spent the first half of the day yesterday with the guy in question. There seems to be a weird pull between us but also a weird stagnation -- neither of us will move. I do not want to chase or pursue aggressively, but I want to keep the water simmering, so to speak. I see it way too easy (and my tendency) to disappear.

I tend to see black and white: Either I ask him out (chase/pursue) or I dont. But then it occurred to me there can be a middle ground. So I started to think about other options. How can I use my best traits without being overbearing, but to nourish a friendship and encourage it? How can I show that I'm trustworthy and not to be feared? For me, asking a man out is NOT an option... too forward, too aggressive. But what are other options?

I asked the Yi what if i send him an email following up on our discussion on Saturday. The response intrigues me:

12.2.4.5 > 4.

YES I KNOW: FOLLY< stop asking questions. But the lines that the Yi gave in 12 suggest a progression and shift of sorts. So I wanted to discuss those.

line 2: But the great man calmly bears the consequences of the standstill. He does not mingle with the crowd of the inferior; that is not his place. By his willingness to suffer personally he insures the success of his fundamental principles. Play it safe/bad idea, dont contact him, dont do anything. That is how I interpret this line.

line 4: Standstill is nearing the point of change into its opposite. Whoever wishes to restore order must feel himself called to the task and have the necessary authority. A man who sets himself up as capable of creating order according to his own judgment could make mistakes and end in failure. But the man who is truly called to the task is favored by the conditions of the time, and all those of like mind will share in his blessing. I Presume this is talking about my desire to write an email and start a written relationship or at least open up more communication other than our one day per week interaction. (And therefore I presume this is NOT talking about the outside view of this "relationship", i presume it is not saying that things will change for the better soon.)
If I am truly "called to the task" and "favored by conditiosn" then it will work out. The thing is: I dont know if I am, in either case.

line 5: The time undergoes a change. The right man, able to restore order, has arrived. hence “Good fortune.” But such periods of transition are the very times in which we must fear and tremble. Success is assured only through greatest caution, which asks always, “What if it should fail.” When a mulberry bush is cut down, a number of unusually strong shoots sprout from the roots. Hence the image of tying something to a cluster of mulberry shoots is used to symbolize the way of making success certain.

I can't see how sending an email could fail, per se. It's communication, it's open, but it's not aggressive: he doesnt have to agree or go anywhere, or even reply. But it puts the ball in his court.

Again, I"m prepared to hear the "you can't consider this valid bc you got Hex 4" argument or that i'm overthinking this or whatever, but if anyone has OTHER comments, please do share.
 

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welcome back elizabeth,

the answer is clear
They bear and endure;
This means good fortune for inferior people.
The standstill serves to help the great man to attain success.

He who acts at the command of the highest
Remains without blame.

Standstill is giving way.
Good fortune for the great man.
“What if it should fail, what if it should fail?”
In this way he ties it to a cluster of mulberry shoots.

but you, the folly one, won't listen ( probably is not the first time when you ask about this )

but keep in mind that standstill can last even months ( yi have a twisted sense of time )
 

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Hi Gato,

Thanks for the feedback. That did clarify things.

So the standstill --both the stagnation and me *doing nothing* -- are somehow supposed to lead to ("success") great things.

I don't like it, and I don't believe it, but I also dont really have a choice.

Yes some recent astrological charts suggest my standstill will continue for 2 more YEARs. I just truly dont know that I will survive that long... its already been 36 years of standstill and i'm at my wit's and rope's and patience's and discipline's end!

*sigh*
 

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Like much of the IC, the lines of 12 offer varying approaches to the situation and it is unwise to judge specific hexagrams as "good" and "bad." By the traditional means of sorting thru which changing line is salient, the middle (4th) line rules in this situation, and as you note, this one is generally hopeful, as is the 5th.

Hex 4 as a resultant indicates you are entering a new place, learning new things. Whatever the final outcome, you will be smarter once you're through this situation...

So, cautiously hopeful. You're in a place of standstill, regarding the object as he, apparently, is regarding you. If you are indeed "called" to take the initiative in this relationship, you are at least going in with eyes open. (btw, my wife, who's a minister, sermonized this morning on "the call" to do what she does, and her deep personal need to follow up on that call despite the absence of some great and glorious sign from The Universe during her time of decision.)
 

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Thank you for the input, elias. But *is* this really a hopeful line? Because the reading as a whole doesn't sound positive or hopeful to me. It sounds like all the other ones I have gotten in months or years passed, when my heart is broken and it tells me to move on. I do not have any hope inside me any more.

I spent the day thinking about the email or contact option and I decided it's a bad idea. If he was interested, he would contact ME. I go back and forth between wanting to maintain momentum and use friendship as a basis for something. But then I tell myself I"m just fooling myself -- he doesnt' want a friendship, or anything else, and I'm stupid to hope for anything. People tell me to stop hoping and not go to the weekend sessions at all...and he's responsive if I ask if he's going, and he picks me up and we have a great time, but that doesnt mean anything at all.

Also - your wife's calling -- I have been getting conflicting advice about how to act in my personal life and either way it seems to come up a "lose" situation. If i do nothing, nothing happens. If i pursue, (historically), he isnt interested, or I get burned. Usually my gut tells me to do one of those two, but, in either case, I am alone. It is difficult because in every area of my life I have fought hard for whatever I have achieved -- jobs, published books, second and third languages, international moves, making new friends, creating a new life from scratch, changing professions, health issues. But you can't fight for love, it's up to the universe to send you someone who will fall in love with you. And that doesnt prevent me from falling in love and it not being reciprocated. Right now though, not one area of my life is good, and it's really hard.

But about hearing one's calling or being called to act... -- what I want to do, and what is best for me to do, are probably not one and the same thing> and I have no way of judging if they are, or what they are. I keep looking for answers and I can't find any. I want a yes or no and I have just a vague gray area... which i guess should be a no, bc you usually dont ask questions if the answer is "yes."
 
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Well.... nothing to offer but the usual platitudes. Remember 54.4, and hang in there. (I'd give you a hug, but I'm on the wrong continent...) Things do get better.
 

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