16.2 and 53.5

[seeker]

Its me again, and ooh its a relationship issue, big surprise. This one is a bit of a departure from the usual. He was at my office Friday to do pest control, ironically enough, for me, because there were ants in my office. I was actually out of the office, but my two friends saw him, thought I would like him, and convinced him to leave his number. Very out of character for me, but I knew my friends would never leave me alone, so I called and we decided to get together. It was different than my usual dates, it was nice, we spent hours talking and he played his guitar, we worked on a song he is writing together. It was just really nice. We did, well, get physical, but it was late in the evening, actually early morning. I have been stressing the past few days and doing my usual panic, ask 16,000 questions. I thought he was going to stay the night, but he jumped up saying something about having to be at work early, kissed me goodbye, said I could call him, but not during the week when he works, or he would see me online. Earlier in the eveing he showed me a room online he plays games in and asked me to register so we could play together. Im just not sure how serious he was. Guys always say they will call, but rarely do. Though in this case he said I could call him, the guys here will have to tell me if there is a difference. I emailed him to thank him for the evening, called on Sun just to talk because I was alone and bored, no response to either, though he does not have a computer at home and he did say he would not call during the week due to his busy work schedule.

Anyway, I calmed down today, asked Yi to clear the slate for me, ignore my idiocy of the past few days. I asked what should I do about this guy? 16.2 What do I need to know about me and this guy? 53.5 Oh, one other little glitch, he is only 25, no jokes about my robbing the cradle. I did not know his age when I agreed to see him, my friends neglected to ask him that. He said he was fine with it, and note that when he decided to come over, we did not do it as a date, we did it as two people getting together and just taking as it comes. But there was a connection, or I thought there was.

I am not sure about the 16.2. I have some translations that talk about setting personal boundaries or overcoming those boundaries, not being too restrictive. Could that refer to my hesitations about his age maybe?

53.5 I dont know if this is saying there is potential here to move to a higher level, or if I will move to a higher level and leave this behind. I am trying not to let wishful thinking rule my interpretations on this one which is why I am asking for help. Despite his age, I really do like him. It was the most comfortable I have felt with anyone since Thomas.

 

[jte]

"Earlier in the eveing he showed me a room online he plays games in and asked me to register so we could play together ... he is only 25"

Love is in the air!

=)

- Jeff

 

[seeker]

Jeff, please dont be cryptic or sarcastic, not sure which that was. What do you really think about this?

 

[seeker]

The problem I have in interpreting things sometimes is that I have several sources which all translate things differently, and it is difficult to figure which translation best fits.

I was looking at Wilhelm today, still trying to figure this out, and 16.2 suggests not being mislead by issusions, which would indicate to me that maybe I am seeing more than it there. But then 53.5 from Wilhelm talks of isolation but eventual reconciliation. So I think it is saying we will eventually get together, but not to push or see it as more than it is. Maybe it is only a friendship and nothing more.

I emailed and invited him to a concert this weekend, got 55.4 when I asked about so that seemed ok. Have not heard yet, but just sent it last night. I asked how he would respond and got, I think, an answer and slap on the wrist at the same time 4.2.3.6, not sure if the immature referred to here is him or me, but I will stop asking questions for now. Hey, 4 questions in 2 days is pretty restrained for me

BTW, help is still appreciated, I think Im getting it, but would like some feedback. Thanks

 

[jte]

Seek, I prefer "facetious" but sorry, yes, I was teasing you.

"what should I do about this guy? 16.2" Essentially, keep your head about you. Your take, not being mislead by illusions, gets the gist of it I think.

"What do I need to know about me and this guy? 53.5 " Not quite sure what to make of that, since I don't usually phrase my questions that way. I'm guessing the answer means essentially "it could happen" where "it" = a lasting, fulfilling relationship (which I assume you are shopping for, ultimately, no?) I think that caveat per 53.5 is that it will take some doing - it won't be easy or a "slam dunk".

As for the invite to play online games, that's a good sign for sure for someone in this age group. You might consider, though, that you and he are probably rather different in terms of responsibilities and life goals. (So, some issues to be worked out there. This is probably one part of 16.2's call to focus on what's important and the 53.5 trials and tribulations if you were to try to go forward with this seriously.)

So, there's my 2 cents. May I return to my normal, gently frivolous personality now?

- Jeff

 

[seeker]

Yes you may, and thanks, that makes more sense. BTW, this is not the typical 25 yr old, if he was I would not be interested. He is very responsible, dedicated to his job, lives by himself (most of the 30 something guys I have met have roommates), and not into the bar scene. Im not sure what I want from him really, just that I did a feel a connection, and I havent felt that for a while with anyone. I dont know how much we will even have in common when we get to know each other better. But it was just comfortable, like slipping on your favorite pair of blue jeans, you know.

 

[seeker]

Jeff, you will probably tell me Im asking too many questions again, but reading your response got me thinking about things, so I asked what if I continue with x? 19.2.4 What if I forget about him and move on? 43.1 Guess whatever is happening here I will have to ride it out as it does not seem I am yet ready to leave this. And no reason to smack me, I will stop now and wait to see what happens.

 

[matt]

Hi Seeker

I wouldnt worry about the age difference, I have many friends (and my sister) who all have embarked on relationships with older companions. My only advice would be to stop asking so many questions, they will only confuse you and cause more anxiety. Let the questioning go for the time being and just take it as it comes. But, if you really feel the need to consult the oracle, then just adhere to the 1. Divine 1 answer, and let it play and grow in you for the whole day, you will find more clarity this way. You sound like a very analytical person by nature, focused on making order out of the smallest of details, however you also sound very spontaneous, otherwise you would not have called him in the first place. Choose the spontaneous over the analytical right now, and adhere to the 1.

 

[seeker]

Analytical definitely describes me, I analyze everything to death, and I do not do well with the unknown. I am very good at taking huge leaps of faith within certain boundaries. I can jump into a relationship if the chemistry is there and I know thats what the guy wants; problems come in when I dont know what the other person is thinking, and I am generally afraid to ask. So I ask the oracle and will approach it 50 different ways to try and ferret out exactly what is going on and what is going to happen. I quite often tell clients that the answer does not change because they reword the question, but I am terrible at following this myself. I think my lesson for this life is to take things as they come, accept that there are things we just cannot know. Spiritually I finally learned that lesson, but personally and emotionally I have a long way to go.

 

[matt]

Natural gifts are a strange thing indeed! - Often, because they are so integrated into our beings, we actually forget we possess them, and tend to seek out their origins. If you see your analytical gift as something that serves you, rather than works against you, you may find you will not have to lose your questioning to become the person you see yourself as spiritually. Its of great value when you can look so deeply into matters, like you said, you help others find themselves purely because of your sight. Im confident, once you realise your own potential, you wont have any problems approaching the unknown with the same flair you offer others.

 

[frank]

Hi Seek,

*sigh* :-D...

A Short One:

What to do about this guy... 16.2 > 40
"Liberate from anxiety in advance..."

What do I need to know about me and this guy... 53.5 > 52
"Let HIM handle it" (oh boy...:-D)

What IF I continue... 19/2.4 > 51
"GO" (you are more scared for succes then failure, aren?t ya :-D?)

What IF I forget about him and move on... 43.1 > 28
"Gives to much tension, so let HIM handle things and slowly... move on."

Hang in there, Seek!

Hug,
Frank

 

[seeker]

Thanks guys, if nothing else I come here and at least feel supported.

"more scared of success than failure"
Frank, how have you gotten to know me so well

 

[frank]

Hi Seek...

I just sigh and wait for the next chapter... We make some laughs about so much writing and asking, and not actually looking what is actually there in front of that what must probably be a most wonderfull nose :-D, but... I look in my own image from time to time when reading all the posts and questions you are sending us, expecialy when it is about the flew, usualy better known as the Love-bug... :-D. It's so known to me, as I do the same things over and over again, and I;m not going to stop it... So do not do that too... :-D. BUT STILL...

Just hang in there, and keep us posted. Have fun with the dates... Breathe a couple of times and leave the damn coins home :-D!

HUG,
Frank

 

[seeker]

Actually I think part of the problem is I dont use the coins. I use the computer one here on Clarity which of course makes it so much easier to ask question after question in rapid fire mode

Well, he emailed me tonight, it was titled dont be a stalker so I guess I did get carried away, but he is still willing to see me and does want to go to the concert with me. I had also sent some lyrics I came up with for a song he is writing and he really liked them and wants to use them. I answered him and apologized for the stalkeresque behavior and promised to reign it in. Now if I can just follow through on that. Like you said Frank, breath, breath, breath.

 

[frank]

Hi Seek,

Aha, you use no coins... Us Them Then :-D. (and NOT a computer :-D). And put them away...

And let HIM handle the stalking :-D.

That realy works! (I have prove for that :-D!)

Huggie,
Frank

 

[seeker]

Are the coins like Tarot cards where you have to use them awhile before you get real answers? I do have some, but the answers I was getting were not clear, so I went back to the computer.

 

[frank]

Hi Seek,

With all the respect in the world, my dear, reading your posts I'm afraid it dosen't realy matter which item you use, as long as you do not READ... :-D. Read the answer before touching any new button, coin, stick, card, even medication, or what so ever :-D, and THEN go ask the Yi totaly mad... Not before... but after... :-D.

And I'm so much talking easy here, as I'm an 'outsider' from your situation, and I do so much the same when I was an 'insider'... :-D. Maybe that's why I say these things now, and say something different when I'm in a situation like you are right now. But realy, Seek, you know my love for a collegue of mine, and by giving her space, she is realy nice to me... It's a prove of letting other people handle things...

Hang in there :-D!

HUG,
Frank