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17.4.5 >24 relationship
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Hi,
I think this means that it will be fine to "follow" -- or create a relationship -- with this guy, if it is based on shared principles and things that you have in common. You will then be following the "way" the Tao instead of a person. The hexagram asks you to consider: what are you following? A person ? or the Tao (the way)?
If both of you follow the Tao, you will prosper.
But if you try to pursue him, with a narrow focus and in a way like trying to "catch" him, or his feelings, then it will backfire.
24: Statement: Returning. Continue. In coming and going, there is neither sickness nor distress. Companions come without fault. Returning is its Tao. In seven days, returning comes. Gain by having a place to go.
24 suggests to me that you keep an openness , so that friends and relationships will come and go, with ease,-- rather than concentrating all your attention on one person.
I think this means that it will be fine to "follow" -- or create a relationship -- with this guy, if it is based on shared principles and things that you have in common. You will then be following the "way" the Tao instead of a person. The hexagram asks you to consider: what are you following? A person ? or the Tao (the way)?
If both of you follow the Tao, you will prosper.
But if you try to pursue him, with a narrow focus and in a way like trying to "catch" him, or his feelings, then it will backfire.
24: Statement: Returning. Continue. In coming and going, there is neither sickness nor distress. Companions come without fault. Returning is its Tao. In seven days, returning comes. Gain by having a place to go.
24 suggests to me that you keep an openness , so that friends and relationships will come and go, with ease,-- rather than concentrating all your attention on one person.
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If I understand correctly, it's seems to me that will be ok to speak with him about something that I can't accept, as a principle.....whatever it will be with us after that.
I was thinking a lot if it's best to let him know about what it's bothering me or to say stop without too many explanations.
I was thinking a lot if it's best to let him know about what it's bothering me or to say stop without too many explanations.
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It is ok to carry on seeing this guy as long as you don't sacrifice your own principles and values. Is he honest and open ? Is he is not, then you should be, as your reading is already showing that there is somehow an issue there.
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Lodestar or Satellite?
Ditto on:
Be sure to follow (17) your own "lodestar" (17.5), not tied up in an intention to make a "catch" (17.4). Always return to yourself and your own path, or Tao (24). You will never lose that which is truly yours, and you will never be led astray. If you two are meant to be together, the universe will conspire to bring you together and keep you together, granted that you (both) still have your (inner) sight fixed on following your lodestar and if it is "written in the stars."
Keep in mind that a lodestar is,
Such a star is a fixed constellation around which to center your life. It does not move. It revolves around the earth with the seasons.
The appearance of 17.4 means there is either a struggle or choice to maintain adherence to the will of the true self or the will of the ego. The ego seeks to follow "satellites," which are not fixed constellations, but ever-changing in desire and influence. They exist without a center and seek to make gains based on what serves their purpose and self-interest in the moment. Discard such satellites and "go one's way with sincerity" (Wilhelm/Baynes).
Decide if it is 17.4 or 17.5 you follow. Perhaps, the Yi is just reflecting your need to make a choice to follow someone or something greater?
I've written a poem about following such a "lodestar" called "Mysterious We." You might like it. :bows:
Ditto on:
Be sure to follow (17) your own "lodestar" (17.5), not tied up in an intention to make a "catch" (17.4). Always return to yourself and your own path, or Tao (24). You will never lose that which is truly yours, and you will never be led astray. If you two are meant to be together, the universe will conspire to bring you together and keep you together, granted that you (both) still have your (inner) sight fixed on following your lodestar and if it is "written in the stars."
Keep in mind that a lodestar is,
Such a star is a fixed constellation around which to center your life. It does not move. It revolves around the earth with the seasons.
The appearance of 17.4 means there is either a struggle or choice to maintain adherence to the will of the true self or the will of the ego. The ego seeks to follow "satellites," which are not fixed constellations, but ever-changing in desire and influence. They exist without a center and seek to make gains based on what serves their purpose and self-interest in the moment. Discard such satellites and "go one's way with sincerity" (Wilhelm/Baynes).
Decide if it is 17.4 or 17.5 you follow. Perhaps, the Yi is just reflecting your need to make a choice to follow someone or something greater?
I've written a poem about following such a "lodestar" called "Mysterious We." You might like it. :bows: