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Today I asked" how will my year 2010 be"

when I was asking the question i was concentrating on the fact that 2008 and 2009 have been bad, difficult and somewhat sad years for me. I wa concentrating on what would be my outlook towards 2010 when I would look back on how 2010 was for me

i got " 18 unchanging"

look forward to your thoughts!!
 

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Hi
There are two ways to look at this. The problems of this hexagram come from things not changing, getting stuck and stagnant like smoky air stuck in a valley, a thermal inversion, he wind stopped at the base of the mountain. Things need refreshing, which is the other side of this - the work we do to correct the stuckness and fixations that we have. The bottom line with work being so important is that the result is proportional to the work you do, not so much to your luck or fate. Your life may need some refreshing, some sort of walkabout or fresh perspective or new interest if things are going to get better..
 
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What he said.

Sometimes the time of 18 can require going back to early influences, things we would have expected to outgrow from childhood, but which have managed to sneak by, and have become parasitic.

Old bad habits we've come to accept as being "just the way I am" may not at all be 'just the way I am', but old programing being accepted as the way I am. That's why 18 implies conscious work, which is required to rectify corrosive patterns.

Of course not all applications need to go this deep. Sometimes it's just our current stinkin' thinkin', which needs a breath of fresh air.
 

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As I mentioned earlier, Hex 18 is about fixing all the things that have gone wrong over the past 2 years, and I know some of them, so you need to seriously get your life back on track by eliminating certain things and people who have spoilt your happiness during this time.

Hex 18 is like a festering sore, you need to pick the scab off and thoroughly clean out the pus and other bacteria that has been lurking below the surface. It's time to apply the alcohol and peroxide on your sore. It's time to make your life healthy again and you know what needs to be done, so be brave this time and do it.
 
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As I mentioned earlier, Hex 18 is about fixing all the things that have gone wrong over the past 2 years,
Does this 2 years come from your personal experience, Wf, or do you have resources/text to support it? Or, perhaps you are speaking of your personal inside knowledge behind Capri's question?

In my own experience, 18 can dig much farther back than just two years, But it can also mean to correct something that went wrong in the last two minutes.
 

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Does this 2 years come from your personal experience, Wf, or do you have resources/text to support it? Or, perhaps you are speaking of your personal inside knowledge behind Capri's question?
A wise student should read her previous posts, and then you will know the story behind this question. Also, read my answers to her various questions as they are quite enlightening.

This lady, unfortunately, did not heed all my advice and that's why she is still suffering now. If she will only do a through clean out of all the clutter that is currently in her life then she will know happiness and freedom. But some people are so afraid of change that they prefer to stick with the "devil" they have become accustomed too.

So, if you read her posts then you will see what Hex 18 applies to timewise.
 

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A wise student should read her previous posts, and then you will know the story behind this question. Also, read my answers to her various questions as they are quite enlightening.

This lady, unfortunately, did not heed all my advice and that's why she is still suffering now. If she will only do a through clean out of all the clutter that is currently in her life then she will know happiness and freedom. But some people are so afraid of change that they prefer to stick with the "devil" they have become accustomed too.

So, if you read her posts then you will see what Hex 18 applies to timewise.
:confused: Really ? She didn't heed your advice and that is why she is still suffering ?
 

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A year for Healing and Strengthening...

Hi capri,
Nice to meet you! Some thoughts I came up with. This is what I thought about your 18 unchanging. I thought I'd tell you a little story too that might help about my own experience with 18 a couple of weeks ago. I asked a similar question.

A few weeks ago I asked the Yi- how will my day be tommorow as I had a day off work and I recieved 18 unchanging. I wasn't sure what would entail but when I woke up in the morning & my sister rang inviting me over to the gym as she had a "get well" clinic on so I went along- it talked about strengthing the body/immune system, healthy eating- also colonic irregation etc. (haha) I had a good morning and decided to start looking at de-toxing my body to make myself feel lighter/better! Then in the evening my friend rang and invited me to a circle dance and healing session (meditation, spiritual healing, talking, lots of fun!) :D so my whole day was filled with repairing myself- or as in 18 repairing what is spoiled! But throughout the day the people I met I also talked with about repairing their selves so quite an interesting day it was!

"""Thus the superior man stirs up the people and strengthens their spirit.""" I think something valuable from 18 is the fact that what you learn you are able to pass on to others- not just strengthning yourself but everyone you share your experience with. So I think next year you could find yourself doing lots of valuable inner and outer work!!

Today I asked" how will my year 2010 be"

So I think your 2010 will be about clearing away and healing yourself from the past, not only yourself but I think you will act as a strength for inspiring others too! being a healing influence. Also by letting by-gones be by-gones in your relationships! that sort of thing. It could be you taking better care of your body- de-toxing, better diet etc. Also emotionally clearing out your closet- setting things right within yourself.

Healing, strengthening and improving, along the lines with what the others thought too.

Good luck with Next Year! I think the year you will have will be at times hard work- as 18can be hard work especially when dealing with the past or improving yourself/situation but also I think you will have a very rewarding year especially if you go into the new year with a good positive mindset and use this 18 the yi has given you to your advantage!- I know from my experience with this hex the way you approach it is everything!

Wishing you a wonderful upcoming Year!!
 

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This lady, unfortunately, did not heed all my advice and that's why she is still suffering now.
You are not allowed to do a similar statement, unless you can prove to be infallibile. You are abusing the the I Ching!
 

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You are not allowed to do a similar statement, unless you can prove to be infallibile. You are abusing the the I Ching!
Go read her posts and I mean all of them. And who are you to tell me that I am not allowed to say this, are you now a moderator? I don't have to prove anything to the likes of you, when you start contributing and helping querents then, and only then we can chat.
 

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You have 55 posts in 5 years, 10 years, never done a reading but suddenly get cocky and tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing.

I ask again, who are you, "coon ben cry, na hee?" (Thai)
 

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You have 55 posts in 5 years, 10 years, never done a reading but suddenly get cocky and tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing.

I ask again, who are you, "coon ben cry, na hee?" (Thai)
Nobody who is doing readings for others is allowed to say to a questioner: Because you haven't followed my advice you are now in the mess. Nobody is infallibile, not even the Pope.
 

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Nobody who is doing readings for others is allowed to say to a questioner: Because you haven't followed my advice you are now in the mess. Nobody is infallibile, not even the Pope.

The thing is that you cannot read as I never ever said that if she doesn't follow my advice then something will happen. I gave her advice, which she didn't follow, now she's in a mess of HER own making. Nothing to do with me.

All I said was that because she did not follow the advice offered, (they were no threats of hell fire or damnation), she has created her own suffering.

Now do you understand or should I draw a picture for you?
 

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Quoting from the sticky thread at the top of this forum:

This forum is for people to share their I Ching readings and exchange insights. Many people here will contribute their experience, knowledge and sheer generosity of spirit to help you interpret your reading. Please remember that we're only human, and make no claims to be totally accurate in our interpretations of your reading. No one is better placed than you are to make judgements and decisions about your own life.
I'd add - as readers, we never know the full facts about anyone's situation. We can form strong opinions about what Yi is saying, and convey that as best we can. That's all.

18 identifies the moment when you have the opportunity to deal with the mess and set your life on better foundations. (Pinky describes it really well.) It suggests you dig in and identify where your problems come from - for yourself, of course, as who else could possibly do this? It doesn't say 'it's all your own fault' or 'you should've listened'.
 

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Thanks Hilary and Parasio for your kind words and advise and Thanks Willowfox for your readings and advise that you have always given. I have a great respect for your insights.

It is difficult to put in a detailed picture of the issues in a forum.

I had issues with my spouse in 2008 and yes I took him back in my life, for the sake of our child and family. Was it a bad decision??i do not know. He has changed and mellowed down a lot. We have a very strong sense of companionship and love for our child. I have learned to accept the fact that he does not show his emotions at all and there are few other things but thats the way he is...I agree that is a void and i do not know if that acceptance would change next year. He himself has gone through a very bad phase..got laid off and a lot of bad luck himself. Will we be together for ever..i do not know..but for now we are in it together.

There were issues in 2009 regarding my job ...which I cannot leave due to complex visa issues..i am not in a very good financial state and cannot leave my job too for something that will pay me better. My employer treats me badly , underpays me knowing the fact I am the only breadearner and cannot leave due to visa issues. If there are any changes in the visa rules I will be the first one to take a flight from the very oppressive job and boss that I currently have. but the cause of the main sadness is something I have never discussed in the forum. We are having some health issues about which we just found out and we are seeing one of the best doctors and we started seeing some positive results, the healing will continue through 2010 and the treatment has great hopes of full recovery.

when I asked this question I was thinking " In 2011 when I look back at 2010 what will be my thoughts on how 2010 went"

and the answer which yi gave me makes me very hopeful and positive for 2010.

Anyways it is difficult to write all details in a forum but please wish me good luck and happiness for 2010 and I am hoping it will be a happy year for me and my family
 

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Hex 18 as has already being said is about rectifying/repairing the things that have gone wrong in "your" life over the past few years, so that includes sorting out any residual problems with your partner, going to the immigration and try and get your visa changed(it can be done as many others do it everyday), and now your health issue.

So, it indicates that with effort, work and perseverance, you can get many things sorted out next year successfully, so when you get to 2011, you can you back and see a lot of gains that you made during 2010. Will your relationship endure, or last the test of time, next year you will understand that nothing is forever.
 

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...or maybe your marriage will thrive on the new, stronger foundation you create through that rectifying/repairing/healing process of 18. We don't know.

Wishing you a happy, healthy and flourishing 2010 :) !
 

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...or maybe your marriage will thrive on the new, stronger foundation you create through that rectifying/repairing/healing process of 18. We don't know.
Time will tell, if the I Ching is right or wrong.
 
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Yijing is never right
Yijing is never wrong
It is always the reader's responsability

(altough so many readers won't take resposabilities for theirs wrongs)
 

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"18. Work toward improving conditions promises well, because it accords with the possibilities of the time."
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