2.2.6 - 4: Why did my readings go from auspicious to not?

[Underwaterstar]

I only recently got into casting actual I ching readings using coins, although I've been poring over "the taoist I ching" and other Chinese texts for years...I was doing really well (often with divination I get kinda... obsessive... maybe that's why I became an astrologer ) just respectfully asking a few questions from various angles about a potential relationship and a few other matters... but then I got a phone app that can do readings and went overboard. As I knew I would, and as it said I would!The relationship readings seemed positive at first--or at least there was a lot of 53, 31... for overall relationship energy I got 14 UC... his deep inner feeling about me was 53.2.5.6... My deep inner feelings about him was 3.1 - 8Was thinking I'm doing well at pacing my interactions with this person and he's into Taoism too so that was exciting (in a balanced grounded way!). But I also have a lot of past trauma and codependency and would rather be alone and peaceful than trying to make it work with someone that doesn't deeply resonate etc. But was excited about the chance of a good thing. For what we share between us I got 50.4.6 - 46Then I started getting increasingly negative discouraging readings... most recently, 56.6 for example... (first laughs, then weeps, the nest burns up, loses the cow etc)... regarding the relationship...and I can't discern if the Yi is mad at me for continuing to ask... or if the actual relationship is a definite no go... I understand it all as maybe part of my process of being able to let go/assess relationships with an even head (maybe not meant to be with anyone ever etc).. I'm happy to just let go of it especially if it is dangerous. But I'm confused and don't want to base the decision to not text him anymore off nothing...so I askedWhy did my readings go from auspicious to not? {Regarding this relationship} and received2.2.6 to 4Now of course 4 is all about asking too much... what are the implications of the lines in hex 2 in your eyes? Thank you so much for taking the time to consider my inquiry, I've learned so much from this messageboard and feel honored to participate :bows:

 

[diamanda]

Why did my readings go from auspicious to not? 2.2.6 > 4

I disagree that 4 is about asking too much, also I don't believe that the I Ching can get mad at you. Saying that, I find it dangerous to divine about feelings, as feelings can be very fleeting for some people, and also people can be extremely different in how they function. Furthermore, when we ask too much about a particular romantic interest it's usually a clear sign that we've already sensed red flags, otherwise we wouldn't already be so worried.

You started this in a square and fair manner (2.2). However, you're being confronted with an old enemy, hence you're experiencing an old bloody battle (2.6). No matter what you do here the situation cannot lead to anything good because you don't fully realise what's going on yet (4).

 

[Underwaterstar]

Thank you diamanda, that is very helpful. I agree the I Ching can't get mad... was just expressing my concern... and I am very grateful for your insight. I agree too that asking about feelings is fraught, very good points--people function differently. You're right, I sense red flags already. But it's all so subtle and uncertain, and my past makes me so hyper vigilant that I question my own perception. Very grateful for the I Ching and your help, thanks.

 

[rosada]

I see 2.2.6 as saying you weren't content (2.2) with your previous answers and started arguing with the I Ching (2.6), which led to hexagram 4. Youthful folly which describes a situation where a person cannot be helped with more advice, more answers, because they are in a situation that requires them to have more actual experience. It's like if someone asks, "Teach me how to ride a bike." Hexagram 4. says "Words won't help. You can't learn how to ride a bike [or understand advice about your relationship] by reading about it, you have to experience it."

Also, when the I Ching gives us an answer and we don't really get it, if we don't let it sink in or sit with it until it makes sense, but push it aside and ask another question, we don't get a different answer, we get a refinement of our first answer. So when we're wanting to know our future and we keep asking, "What will happen? What will happen?" and the I Ching says, "You'll fall in love! " and you ask again and it says "You'll be happy!" and you ask again and it says "You'll drop dead!" So you think, "That's terrible! First it says I'm happy and then it says I'm dead? Auugh, the I Ching is mad at me." But really, nobody is mad, it's just that the subsequent readings don't contradict the first reading, they refine it, but you won't be able to understand the refinements before you have understood your original reading. This is why the Image for hexagram 4 says the superior man fosters his character [develops his understanding] by thoroughness in all that he does, that is, by understanding the first answer before asking a second question.

 

[Underwaterstar]

Ah thank you that is very helpful. I have gotten the sense that answers have become more focused and minute in both this and other matters when repeat questions have been asked... refined is a good word. This makes sense... that it's sort of zooming in on aspects of the process/relationship/question/answer. I am going to need to keep better notes.I asked one more, about whether I can "reset" the whole thing and ask again about the relationship and got 6.5 - 64 (my book says "contend; it will be very auspicious")... and so now I'm considering it again.To be clear, the "red flags" have been negligible, just kinda one of those things where when I totally let go he contacts me again. But it's not like he leaves me hanging, if anything I'm doing that as well. It's a long distance friendship at this point, that's all, but there is some definite resonance and we did have a lovely phone conversation and it's rare for me to e even consider anyone... so I'm curious. When I asked if he's my match I got 21.1 - 35... "wearing stocks stopping the feet, no blame" --probably too early to think about that again? I am an all or nothing kinda person so I cut to the chase but I see how that's to my detriment especially if as I understand the relatons hip is overall a "14" one--which I understand from the forum here to mean a mature slowly developing thing where we share intellectually/spiritually, whiuch seems fitting. When I asked what my a approach should be I got 20 UC which I think is beautiful advice. Just observe... learn from what I feel and see.