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I am currently working on healing and clearning a physical health issue. I asked Yi if all the work (medicines, exercise etc) I'm doing will create the healing i desire? Strangely enough the so called problem is cosmetic and more a lifestyle nuisance then a life threatening condition.It came back with 22.1.3.6 to 2

I think its trying to tell me that yes it will heal and clear physically but to also look beyond the appearance of things. That i will get the result i desire with patience and constancy but there is also more to me and to nuture that as well.

Am i right in my interpretation?? Yi can give you a straightforward direct answer....do u normally take it at face value....where in my question its- yes beauty and healing will happen as a result of your efforts?
 
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Two cents worth comment: illness

Transfer of reading into 6 line for analysis

占事:illness
起卦时间:2012年05月29日07时28分
神煞:天乙—寅午 福星—午 日禄—申 羊刃—酉 驿马—申 桃花—卯 华盖—戌
干支:壬辰年 乙巳月 庚寅日 庚辰时
旬空:午未  寅卯  午未  申酉


六神  伏神    艮宫:山火贲(六合)22     坤宫:坤为地(六冲)2
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
滕蛇       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼丙寅木  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙癸酉金 世
勾陈       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财丙子水     ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财癸亥水  
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟丙戌土 应   ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟癸丑土  
青龙 子孙丙申金 ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财己亥水  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼乙卯木 应
玄武 父母丙午火 ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟己丑土     ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母乙巳火  
白虎       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼己卯木 世○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟乙未土 

Hexagram 22: Illness is more serious than it appears on the surface.
Hexagram 2: Sicknes: afflicions of the abdominal region; not serious, but if neglected, they wil become chronic
Source: Melyan & Chu

The illness is with you (line 1: officer line with host), but it is not serious this month (Line 1 character under the month of the reading.).

It is an annoying problem, day of reading = wood, illness = wood in 5 elements.

Proper use of medications and treatment is required. It appears that your medical treatment is not working this month (hidden character under line 3 = medication, merges with month of the reading)

Do not need to consult the Iching. Seek proper medical attention usign a medical partitioner. You will be better with the proper treatment by September 2012.

hexagram 2 is one of 8 pure hexagram. You have a digestive problem and it is very difficult to conduct the proper diagnosis. You should not ignore it for a long time. Else this can be dangerous. Patience is the key to seek proper medical attention until you find the medical solution.

Line 1/6 refers to the illness and you are trapped within without knowing how. By Aug/Sept, situation will improve if you use the proper medical treatment.
 

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thanks long yi for giving me your feedback on the reading.

Do not need to consult the Iching. Seek proper medical attention usign a medical partitioner. You will be better with the proper treatment by September 2012

In response to that interpretation I am currently using medication to clear the illness and the medication is supposed to last till about Sept. Is it advising me to continue using it and that effects will show by Sept OR Is it saying that it will not be effective and i need to use something different??

I am a bit confused?
 

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I am currently using medication to clear the illness and the medication is supposed to last till about Sept. Is it advising me to continue using it and that effects will show by Sept OR Is it saying that it will not be effective and i need to use something different??
In my opinion the reading says this medication you are currently taking is ineffective. Line 1 says "get out of the carriage" -- whatever is "carrying" you now, metaphorically speaking. Line 3 in my opinion is saying that the treatment you are now using is nothing but a distraction. Line 6 promises relief when you get rid of this current regimen. Hexagram 2 says that at first you will go wrong but later you will find the proper guidance.

Prianca, it is very tricky using the I Ching for medical issues. It is so much quicker and accurate to see a trained practitioner. For one thing, the I Ching cannot speak your language and just tell you that your current medication is not effective. Nor can it tell you what to do instead. You would have to ask so many questions, it would be ridiculous and ultimately confusing. If you have a doctor you can trust, try to put some faith in him to help you. Maybe the doctor to help you would be of the alternative mode, like a naturopathic doctor, a chiropractic doctor, or an acupuncturist. In my experience, the Western medical doctors do not understand the gastrointestinal system very well, and Long Yi posted that he thought this might be a gastrointestinal complaint. It would be good to know if Long Yi was correct about that. Often the querant does not give background information, you see, but much can be read in the lines anyway ...
 

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It is your responsibility to seek proper medical attention and consult a medical doctor. There are several type of drugs. (a) a cure; (b) it controls the conditions, when you stop the drug, condition may return.

Long Yi does not believe in the use of Iching to find a cure and determine whether the drug is suitable.

Back to Iching theory for discussion purposes:

Your posted hexagram
起卦时间:2012年05月29日07时28分
神煞:天乙—寅午 福星—午 日禄—申 羊刃—酉 驿马—申 桃花—卯 华盖—戌
干支:壬辰年 乙巳月 庚寅日 庚辰时
旬空:午未  寅卯  午未  申酉

六神  伏神    艮宫:山火贲(六合)22     坤宫:坤为地(六冲)2
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
滕蛇       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼丙寅木  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙癸酉金 世
勾陈       ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财丙子水     ▅▅ ▅▅ 妻财癸亥水  
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟丙戌土 应   ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟癸丑土  
青龙 子孙丙申金 ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财己亥水  ○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 官鬼乙卯木 应
玄武 父母丙午火 ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟己丑土     ▅▅ ▅▅ 父母乙巳火  
白虎       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼己卯木 世○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟乙未土 

Source: Golden Book of Iching in Chinese
鬼动卦中,眼下速难取效;
(占药要鬼爻安静无气为吉,若遇发动其病正炽,虽有良医妙药卒难取效,休囚少可,旺则愈凶。待鬼爻墓绝,用药方有功。或强服药,病必加重。)

Line 1 is the officer/ghost line, meaning the illness in you. Since it is a change line, there is no solution to treat the problem at present. A good doctor with his medication does not yield an immediate solution. By the time the illness subside in certain months, the medication will work.

Line 1 is wood (illness), so is line 6.
木长生在亥,旺在卯,墓在未,绝在申;
Wood turns weak in the month of Jul 4- Aug 3 and Aug4 to Sept 5. In these two months, your medical conditions improve and the proper medication will yield positive results.

空临世上,心中强欲求医。
(世爻空亡,必不专心求医,无故自空,决请不成,勉强为之药亦不效。如占服药而世空者,乃是药不对症也。)
At present, you urge to find immediate treatment for your condition. However, your approach in seeking medical help is not focused. If you try medication without any guidance, those medication will not work because they are not right type of medication.

鬼爻持世,病难除根
The line 1 host line contains the officer/ghost character, it is difficult to trace the source of the illness and eliminate it.

Iching books also mention illness for the different hexagrams (all 64).

Hexagram 22: type of possible illness贲 山火贲 卦象:上艮下离
病象:血管瘤、血液循环不畅、心脏疾病、肌瘤、子宫瘤、出血症、经期不调、前列腺增生、肥大、炎炡、小便赤黄、肾虚、视力不佳、癌症。

Hexagram 2: type of possible illness
坤 坤为地 卦象:上坤下坤
病象:中气不足、心悸气短、津液不足、腰疾、畏寒、肝肾之疾、痔疮、便溏泻。
坤卦{8]对应人体和病象

对应人体; 腹部,消化器官(脾,胃),肉,肥厚,右肩,右手,血,任脉等。

所类病象;  腹疾、脾胃之疾,饮食停滞,谷食不化,腹痛,脾虚腹胀,浮肿,湿重,皮肤湿疹,肌肤疮毒晕症,劳累疲乏,满性病,中气虚,头昏,低血压,气短,痰盛,小便不爽,寒湿症等

I will not translate the different diseases because it covers many different type of problems. You can try google translate if you are curious.

Long Yi does not believe in the use of Iching to predict a medical condition. This is the modern times. Doctor is easier to find and consult. In Canada, consulting a doctor is free anyways.
 

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Firstly thank you ginnie and long yi for your further clarification on the subject....:) Long Yi i think you are right....I ching might not be the best way to find out if a treatment will be successful or not.....time will reveal that anyway. In another 3 months i will know for sure if the current treatment has been effective or not and it will be interesting to go back to the reading and see how that worked.....i will keep u posted.

Ginnie the medical issue is not concerned with the gastrointestinal tract so I'm not sure why that came up...its a blood circulation problem in my legs though i did translate the conditions listed by Long Yi associated with Hexagram 22 and blood circulation was one of them.....so that was certainly very interesting. But as you mentioned it can get very confusing to consult the Iching for treatment outcomes......
 

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