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SHONNA_D

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I have one more of my questions to share with you.
My question was:
Will I have a relationship that it will end up to marriage?
hexagram 22 changing lines 2 and 5 to hexagram 9.

line 2 seems to me like the first days of a relationship... beautiful words are spoken but there is no love as love is something that comes later. Line 5 seems to show true feelings...but what about hexagram 9? does it show marriage? or raise a child? :eek:
 

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I don't think this says, "No, you won't ever."

22.2 could mean you'll have to be patient (hair grows slowly), maybe that you won't meet your future husband for a while, or that when you do, it might take a while for the relationship to develop into marriage. Also, you can't force hair to be beautiful, any more than you can force a successful marriage or a loving spouse into existence.

22.5 is about being ashamed of the small "roll of silk" you're offering. ("You" meaning whoever this applies to - maybe you yourself not thinking you have much to offer, or maybe someone you'll meet doesn't think they do, or you might not intially think they do - someone somewhere, though.) But the line says this isn't really true - the small roll of silk is fine. ("Roll of silk" is a metaphor, of course.)

Hexagram 9 is "Small Farming." It usually refers to mundane daily chores, tending to the details of life, farming and accumulation on a small scale. 22 and 9 together could mean that "beauty" (22) will be expressed in small, ordinary ways. What exactly that means could be a lot of things. Maybe a description of the person, maybe a description of how you'll meet, maybe a description of your life together (although that might be getting too far ahead) etc. etc.

But I think it's fair to say that Yi isn't just saying "yes" (or "no," but this doesn't sound like "no" to me), but also giving you more detail, background, insight, and so forth. Adding to the "yes" or "no." What Yi seems to be doing here is answering a question more like "What should I understand about my potential for marriage?"

(This is why it's often advised not to ask yes/no questions, as Yi isn't set up to just say "yes" or "no" and stop there. May as well ask a question that purposely invites more information in the first place, and then it's easier to understand what Yi's answering.)
 
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It's very nice to share my casts with you and read your answers! Thank you Liselle!
What an interesting interpretation!
Hexagram 9 is "Small Farming." It usually refers to mundane daily chores, tending to the details of life, farming and accumulation on a small scale.

Is marriage a daily routine...isn't it? It looks like hexagram 9.
 

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Yes, marriage can be a daily routine, but I could also envision other answers if people ask for a picture of their marriage. It would depend on the the particular couple.
 
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Liselle I understand your point. I agree there are hexagrams which are more positive for a marriage.
I think my question was not clear enough. It seems to be 2 questions in 1 but Iching knows what to answer.
Let's make a relationship first.:flirt:

Just a question I made recently:
Will I stay single or Will I have a relationship again?
Hexagram 55 changing lines 2/4/5 to hexagram 5
Iching answered me with hexagram 55 for one more time.
I mourn for my last relationship because it ended so abruptly but anyway. Life goes on but still wondering if it's over.
 
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55.2.4.5 > 5

55 - abundance, mandate, marching out, not mourning. You also had hexagram 55, with the first line moving, on much the same topic, in your other thread. That sort of repetition is usually meaningful.

5 - waiting, expectant waiting

Putting those together - which could be done many ways, play around with them and see what kind of "sentences" you can come up with - maybe something like "marching out while waiting"? or "accepting a mandate in a period of waiting"? Etc.

55.2
'Feng is screened off. At midday, seeing the Dipper. Going on gains doubts and anxieties. With truth and confidence coming to expression, Good fortune.'
55.4
'Feng is screened off At midday, seeing the Dipper. Meeting your hidden lord, Good fortune.'
55.5
'A thing of beauty coming. There is reward and praise, good fortune.'

"Screened off" refers to an eclipse or sunspots. A divinatory sign that indicated the new king should not observe the traditional mourning period for his dead father, but should lead his army into battle against an oppressive regime. They were successful.

What it might be saying to you is that you feel in the dark, overwhelmed, bewildered. I think Yi's saying that while you can't see where you're going, and don't know where to go or what to do, it doesn't have to scare you. There's "good fortune" in all of those lines.

Line 2 says something like, although you're mostly in the dark, use whatever you do have to guide you, and as you go on like that, you'll get more confident.

Line 4 - there's the Big Dipper again - using whatever's at hand to guide you. A "hidden" lord (vs. the lord in line 1) is someone or something who seems like your enemy, who you'd never expect to help you or be good for you. But in some way, the thing you fear or dislike can further your purpose, somehow. In this case, perhaps Yi's saying that being single - is that what you're worried about? - will actually be good for you in some way, even though it might not seem that way now.

Line 5 - pretty self-explanatory, but it's not here yet. You're still at the lower lines. But it sounds like things will eventually end well.

A hint: it's best not to ask two questions in one, as you did here. It can make it very hard to tell what Yi's addressing. Better to ask each question separately, or ask one of them and see what Yi's answer is, and then you may or may not have to ask the second one.

In this case, I think Yi was probably addressing the topic generally, overall.

I don't think either of your readings say you'll be single forever. :) But you'll have to wait (relating hexagram 5). While you're waiting, don't hide away! Go forth in your "singlehood" and try to enjoy it, make use of it in some way, turn it around to your own purpose (55.4).

Hexagram 5's Oracle:

'Waiting, with truth and confidence. Shining out, creating success: constancy brings good fortune. Fruitful to cross the great river.'

See, "waiting" in hexagram 5 is not a horrible thing. It's the relating hexagram, so your actual answer, Yi's advice to you, is not just to "wait expectantly," it's to go forth (55) while you're waiting. Or something along those lines.
 
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I see the similarity between the lord of line 1 from my other post and line 4.
I think line 2 shows my anxiety about my personal life. After a lot of difficult relationships I have lost my hopes for a nice and long lasting one. So I can't see clearly.
There is good fortune in all of those lines indeed. Let's see how they will play out...
 

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