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Hey everyone and Happy new year to you.

I had a really good new years eve. A relationship with a man who has really taken up many a tearfull night of self examination, and beyond even analysis, just rolls of painfull tears over the past year seems to have had a resolution . I went to a party and he was there. He ususally ignores me because our egos have caused some rediculous dramas the few times we were in each others presence over the last year, so I really wasnt expecting him to approach me and apologise. His apology was a gateway into new territory with us, and i think he wanted me to open up, to really get to the route of all the madness we have conjured up for ourselves. But for some reason I find it hard to dig deep in his company and express things. I just said hey, lets not even think about it, 2013 is going to be a clean slate. and we hugged and all felt right with the world again.

we spent the evening and the next day together, along with 2 other mutual friends. We gave eachother peace offerings ( his was a lime, mine was a piece of aragonite) and we laughed and kept everyhting light hearted. We parted well and it all feels like a relief.

I must admit that I still hold deep feelings for him. But this period of seperation we have undergone has let me see my own egotistical behaviours when im with him, how my personality changes in an instant and how much my desire to be recognised as who I really am has played a major part in why I have been so pining after this lost connection with this man.

Really what ive been sad about, is the false persona I project due to my own fears and doubts, which lead to huge amounts of misunderstandings. He is a very proud soul and he most certainly did treat me rudely at times, but if theres anyhthing the IChing has taught me, it's that any sadness, fear or doubt is my own to deal with, and I have to find out whats goign on inside my head before I look to understand anyone elses.

I asked, simply, about me and him.

the answer was 22, 1,4,6 >62. Now i think Yi hit this right on the head here. Facades, which ones show who we really are to eachother, and which ones hide the natural essence of whatever we have with eachother. The lines are very true. We both approached eachother with a massive amount of humility, we didnt take a carraige, we walked. we kept things very grounded and practical. It might not have been thunderbolts and passion, but it was the simple idea that we started to show eachother our basic real selves. Not trying to impress, or hurt, or cause some kind of mindgame in the other.

line 4 is the kicker here. obviously, i doubt the connection with this man, least of all because he is a master of hiding himself and adorning himself with other less stable and consistant facades. He is very well liked, the centre of attention, very well spoken, very funny and very much interested in pleasures that pass quickly, as much as i have been acting like i have a multiple personalty disorder, he has too. Now the girl he has been seeing ( as much as he sees any girl,) was not present at new years eve. this is another doubt I have. Is that over with? was he just entertaining himself with me because she wasnt around? I never asked him. I didnt want to ruin the veryimportant reunion we were having. Plus its none of my business. another thing Ive learned from Yi, saty out of things that have nothing to do with you.

then theres line 6, value announces itself plain. This i think we were striving for. Understanding the essence of eachother, getting away from all the bullshit.

the 62 here is the thing i dont understand. Of every hexagram in the Yi, 62 has been the most elusive for me to understand. Bradford talks of 62 as being much more about humilty then 15, and lofting says its about 'portraying, exagerating'. I must say, every other time ive received 62 its been in a quite negative situation, so I'm at a loss to know wherther to read this as 'exaggerating the facades' or 'humility in the facade'.

sorry for the length of this post, but I would absolutely love some freash ideas about this combination. I probably wont see this guy for awhile now, as i'm going back to university today and wont be out socialising as much over the next few months, so i feel like i must ponder this one answer for awhile to come, and anyone who might have experience with this combination or any ideas, it would be greatly helpfull.

Bests,
Yx
 

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Happy New Year!
62 may deliver the message not to extrapolate the 22 events of New year's Eve. Small humble steps only as far as you can see (the present) as opposed to hopes and plans for the future.
 

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Hi ,

A nice reading and interpretation. I think you understand what h62 means here because I can see it in your words. H62 is grand situation and what hex22's lines indicate, imo, is that there is not need for grandeur. In other words they say how to ensure what 62 asks .

Hope it helps and good luck
 

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I must say, every other time ive received 62 its been in a quite negative situation

oftentimes, is how it is for me too. A big mountain will a small passage to pass it through under a heavy heather. H62 has be my yearly reading for the past two years. Very H62 years. Sometimes I was forgetting how Big it was and was pissed off with myself . Luckily some people reminded that to me. Their words were grounding me (pun indented, lol)
 

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poor little me
in the middle of this deep blue sea
i'd feel so much better
but my head keeps getting wetter

i'd climb this ocean
and swim this mountain
if doing so were prudent
for now i'll lay low
eating rations without a fire

vulnerable and meek
lowering my head when i speak
i'll be lucky enough to see tomorrow
 

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thank you all!!

I must say it dawned on me last night that i understood the image of 62 alot better and so its fitting together now. excessive in sorrow at a funeral, excessively frugal while spending etc. Alot to do with facades too. I think thats the way it went. But i think that reflects back on how much 22 there was going on, maybe there was, as lofting calls it, an excessive amount of exxageration in both of us, exaggerated 'let bygones be bygones'.


Anemos indeed, 'no need for grandeur'. There was rediculous amounts of projecting in this situation from the beginning.

meng- ha! Whens your yijing translation coming out again?!? :)


Thanks fallada for the reminder of taking things small and humble, and not projecting towards the future. again desire to know whats next gets me into awful trouble with yi, just ends up confusing me more.

I have one more though. I couldnt help myself. I asked just for advice in this situation, and got 3, 1,2,6>59.

The beginning of 'disspelling illusions' as lofting calls it?

I was interested in Huangs line 2, the story of a woman who has two suitors and is chaste with her affections. Their is noone else for me, but knowing how hard it is for this man to make a decision, I presume this other woman he has been seeing is still in the picture. There had been far too much doubt in my mind about this guy to just go for it, so yea, ive definitely been 'chaste'. But having said that, there has been noone else in my life that I have really felt such a connection with. maybe hex 3 is somehow also conveying what happens to me when i really do fall for someone.Although I really only have this man to compare anythign with.

Line 6, i hope- i may be able to avoid. Some interpretations say that it means too much hesitation, others say sometimes the difficulties at the beginning are just too much to overcome.

59 i have read from interpretations here is specifically 'bad' for relationships? I dont know exactly how to interpret it.

This relationship had been stopping and starting for over 3 years now. Is yi saying its time to let it all go?

Thank you all so much for helping me figure this out!

Yx
 

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waoh.

Just did my daily hex: got 3.6 to 42??

:(
 

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Hi yxeli,

Thanks, but I can only translate dog speak and am learning a bit of hummingbird.

I don't see 22 as being limited to superficially or vanity. I see 22 as the expression of the life within a given being or organism, including the plant world. It's the flower, not the root, but without that flower there would be no bees, and without bees there'd be no root or flower. The plant's continuance depends on its attractiveness; not that plants are as complex as we humans, where beauty is measured according to ones own personal values and tastes.

Change lines 1, 4 and 6 all point to simplicity, personal freedom from dependance upon what he or others think of you: your image, your carriage, your display. This matches what you've mentioned (twice) about interference from the egos, or the pretension you find yourself putting on, to your own displeasure with yourself.

Yi (as I interpret it) then goes on to say that the way to improve (42) this one part of your life is to improve yourself. Just leave the carriage and walk on your own, as yourself. Maybe that will arouse his heart rather than his ego, or yours. A sprout doesn't remain a sprout for long: it either grows or dies.
 
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59 i have read from interpretations here is specifically 'bad' for relationships? I don't know exactly how to interpret it.

maybe, but maybe not Yxeli. When a relationship can function better with less rigidity then it might be a good hex. it depends. To my impression you both try to reduce rigidity.

What is interesting is that you get the line "he is not a robber" twice (22.4 & 3.2). Maybe this is somehow connected with 59. I read it more as a metaphor than a literal comment so i wont say its about him.
 

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In regard to personal relationships, I have experienced 59 mostly as what in music recording would be called a fade out. Quite literally, a friendly dissipation.

But, that does not mean it or he can't return later in a different form (recalling the role of 22). Even if not, a temple of it/him has been built in your heart and soul, it sounds like. I have one from when I was 16, one from when I was 24. lol
 

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sorry for not replying to this, just had to leave it for a few weeks...completely wrecking my mood and my daily habits, i did read your replies at the time but i was too wound up about it to reply.

Havent seen him since. trying to keep a level head. over indulging in yi-usage is keeping me on the straight and narrow regarding this. its obviously not responding to this relationship, but to my headspace. and its always great to bounce that off something to calm me down.

Thanks for your responses.


Yx
 

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