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I'm in a pickle right now and don't know what to do for the best. So I've asked another question, What will happen if I stay with the agency? I received 23.2.3.5 > 57.

Is it saying the old is irretrievably dying and won't come back and the only way now is too let go of the old (agency) and start something new?
 
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If you stay you will continue to wonder if you should leave.

I don’t think this reading is saying you ought to leave - that wasn’t what you asked - only that you will continue to question whether you should.
 

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Oh dear. The other day you seemed comfortable with leaving, both in real life and because you thought Yi was supporting the idea.

I recognize this anxiety. I'm not sure there's a good solution. We consult Yi in order to help with that, but then if we don't feel we can trust what Yi's saying, or maybe moreso our interpretation of it...


About this reading:

23, Stripping Away, changing to 57, Penetrating

23 means "strip away," which is relevant by itself since you're asking about leaving. It also describes a very painful process, like flaying with a knife. Yes! I think this is good and painful for you! Hexagram fulfilled! :)hug:)

57, Subtle Penetration - in its less-helpful side, it can mean exactly what's happening, endless probing without accomplishing much.

The lines are distinct messages, I think. (Quoting Hilary's translation.)

23.2
'Stripping away the bed by way of its frame.
To disregard constancy: pitfall.'

Quitting a job without another job firmly in place is indeed "stripping away the bed frame," the thing you lie on that supports you.

Given what I know about this, which isn't everything since I don't think I've read all your threads, I think it might also be saying that this is what you're doing, to yourself. You seem to have a pretty good bed frame in place - you're as sure as you can be that Company X will hire you; you have enough money to get through the next 6 months; you have the 49.4 reading (the one I know the most about) saying you can be confident and that "regrets vanish"...and now you're stripping all that away from yourself again, mentally.

I think Yi's saying you need "constancy" to the bed frame you know you have (see above ^^) and if you disregard it, you're undermining yourself: pitfall.

23.3
'Stripping away.
No mistake.'

This seems like instructions, not a direct answer to your question. The stripping away that's alive here is you leaving your agency: 'no mistake', says Yi. I do think Yi's trying to be as direct as possible. Leave. (I can't not put a caveat here that this is my interpretation of your reading, and of course it could be all wrong. But I do think Yi's pushing you out the door ;).)

(I got this line when I was in a lot of doubt about - pardon the comparative triviality - cutting my hair quite short. I went ahead and did it, and I'm glad I did. There have been problems, but they're irksome in a better way than the problems I was having with longer hair. It was the right decision.)

23.5
'String of fish
Through the favour of the palace people.
Nothing that does not bear fruit.'

Again I think this is an indirect answer. I'm guessing Yi has firmly moved on from your question, possibly because you're not going to stay. I think this is reminiscent of the 63 in the other reading: this is already underway, whether you truly know it or accept it yet, no matter how much you fight or deny.

You're getting encouragement. "String of fish" - fish are both food to eat and economic resources, you'll be able to string those together. Again like the other reading, maybe barely, but that's not failure. "Through the favour of the palace people" - could that be Mr. X at Company X? Maybe some other palace people I don't know about? "Nothing that does not bear fruit" - doesn't that sound like pure encouragement?


That being said - I've been anxious like this over much smaller issues than quitting a job. I'm not sure there's anything Yi can say that will eliminate your worries, because it's inherently worrisome. It'll only stop being nerve-wracking when it's done, and Yi can't make it be done.


(Last-minute thought - if need be, are there other jobs you could get during the waiting period, so you'll have some income? I think you said your job is driving - are there other driving jobs you could do? This "Uber" whatchamacallit or some such? Other temporary jobs could easily be part of the string of fish, I think.)
 

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I'm in a pickle right now and don't know what to do for the best. So I've asked another question, What will happen if I stay with the agency? I received 23.2.3.5 > 57.

Is it saying the old is irretrievably dying and won't come back and the only way now is too let go of the old (agency) and start something new?
I think at this point more casts aren't helping you.

Your problem is you want certainty from Yi and you won't get that, the decision is still yours.

I hope you can stop seeing this as a 'pickle' for a while, relax and know you'll get by whatever happens. I feel a bit bad because in an early 24.6 cast you had I was urging not to relax and now it seems you can't stop asking Yi more or less the same questions which will make you more lost.


Is this company offering you actual work ? If so then why not leave the agency.


I've worked for agencies and you don't even really need to tell them where you are working you can just stay on their files and they'll call you when work is available so I don't understand why you give this agency such a lot of power ?


In CC we are discussing this problem of wanting Yi to decide for us and this thread has come up.
 

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Thanks, rosada and Liselle and Trojina. I'm truly flattered that you kept track of my predicament (including my other posts) and I think it's only because it's such a huge decision that I have sought the clearest of answers – and in making so many casts, tried to do that. Perhaps it's my lack of experience in interpreting what the IChing says that's behind that.
I'm so grateful to all of you for helping me get to grips with where I am and where I am headed. I see rosada that you have a different take to Liselle but given my other (numerous lol castings), and what I know and the clarity Liselle gave – putting it into everyday language – and everything else, I think that’s the closest overall to how it relates to me. And Trojina, you have related it to actual experience (as it were), which has been most helpful. Not just here but in giving advice in my other posts. To you all thanks again.
You’ll be pleased to hear I’m giving castings a rest! IChing has already told me off about doing so many! I hope my next utterings will be where I tell you about what I did and what happened. I promise to keep you updated here. But not for about 3 weeks!
 

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