24 to 37

[lafragolina]

Hello all, I am here to ask for some help. I have been working with the I-Ching for some time and I'm always more convinced of its accuracy. This time however I need some help on interpretation. The coins were cast for a question concerning a new 'love' and the response was: hexagram 24 with 6 at the third, fifth and sixth place. This turns 24 to hexagram 37. Any impessions? Please help, it's quite important-
Many many thanks,
la fragolina

 

[chinuajin]

Hi, La Fragolina

I find this a very interesting casting. It seems to be _very_ auspicious, except for that pesky changing Yin line in the top position, which is the only really 'Warning' (and we'll discuss that in a bit).

Another interesting point is the large number of changing lines. Whenever I see more than two changing lines in a hexagram, I've found that there is some turmoil involved (either internal or external to the Situation) that needs some clarification.

For this clarification, I look at the Hexagram made up of the Nuclear Trigrams (or 'Hu Gua'), ignoring Changing Lines)) of the Primary Hexagram , which can offer a course of Action... in this case, the result is 2 (K'un, the Receptive). This also, is very Auspicious, yet offers its own sharp insight.

You don't mention if your new 'love' is a person or a social activity (say a new hobby). For the sake of not sounding too personal, and using #37 (The Clan) as a Group thing (say, a Choir, where all members must be in accord), here's what I get from this 24 > 2 > 37 casting.:

This new 'love' may not be entirely 'new' to you... you've had similar interests in the past, but, for whatever reason, have withdrawn from them-- but you are now returning, wiser than when you left. This is very hopeful!

You are represented by the Strong line (also the Ruler of #24) rising up through the Weak lines of the Hexagram. Your light is helpful, and welcomed by your 'love'. Yet, internally, you may feel conflicted, as you've returned to similar interests before, only to be disappointed. But this time, you return with a new sense of Purpose.

I sense that you could be a "take-charge" sort of personality... lots of ideas and enthusiasm! But those ideas and enthusiasm might cause friction in your social group. Do you have a case of "Helium Hand", where you tend to Volunteer for _anything_, only to find that you don't have the time or energy to follow through?

Taking charge of things when you're unprepared is a danger, as the changing top line in Hex. 24 hints at. Once you've striven for, and achieved, the top place, there's nowhere to turn, especially when you don't have the support of those beneath you!

The Nuclear Hexagram #2 (The Receptive) counsels you to be open and receptive to other's ideas and wishes. When you're new to a group or individual, it's the proper time to learn as much as you can, and aid them, rather than trying to take charge.

The resulting Hexagram (#37- the Clan) bodes well, but reinforces the "Action" warning of #2 when it states "Thus the Superior Man has substance in his words / And duration in his way of life".

As I said earlier, this interpretation applies equally well to your relationships with individuals as well as groups... you know your situation better than I do... .

I hope my reading of your Hexagrams proves helpful... this is the first time (in over 30 years) I've ever tried an interpretation for a complete stranger, and it feels a bit weird

Yet, it also feels very 'right', as all three hexagrams seem to coincide very well!

Hope to hear what you think

*Hugs*
Chinuajin

 

[chinuajin]

Oh... La Fragolina:

I forgot to mention that, besides the Wilhelm/Baynes and Legge Editions, I also consulted Karcher (very clear and insightful), and Edward Shaughnessy's Translation of the 2nd.cen. BCE Ma Wang Dui texts of the "Chou I" (new to me, as of just last night, and rather difficult... it's set up in the "Elder Heaven" arrangement, and is rather severely fragmented, but still fascinating for comparison's sake

Chinuajin

 

[lafragolina]

Dearest Chinuajin,
I can't really thank you enough for taking the time to help me! And how accurate! Indeed, the situation is a bit of a turmoil. It is about a new love in my life, a man -of course you're not sounding too personal when you ask. I don't know him well, yet I have the feeling I've known him for ages, thus 'the return'.
Of course, the first thing I thought of when trying to analyse this feeling was karma. And it might be, that's why I tried to give myself a reading. But now, after what you told me, I feel much 'safer'. I wouldn't know how to explain it, but your interpretation opened my eyes in a way I wasn't expecting.
So, as you say, I should be as receptive as possible and not too 'leading'. I will try, I'll do my best, because I believe what is happening is not by chance. And also the fact that you took the time to give me your analysis -first stranger in 30 years- isn't by chance. Not to mention this is the first time ever I visit this site. Incredible, no? Maybe not, after all. Just the magic of life. Any more advice -especially on that top changing line- you would be willing to give me dear Chinuajin, I would be as happy as I can be to take.

 

[hilary]

Dear Lafragolina,

I enjoy Chinuajin?s readings very much, because they are a little different from my own approach. So here are a few more ideas for you to use as you wish?

Hexagram 37 sounds as if you are looking for a stable relationship, a safe place that gives you a solid, secure base in the world. Or perhaps - since it is the woman whose constancy makes the whole Clan work - you are looking to create such a relationship for this man? Either way (!), there is a little tension between the enclosed, stable feeling of this hexagram and the surging return of energy in #24. It needs to be very free to come and go, without haste or pressure - and then all bodes very well for a relationship. One of the interesting things about Return is that although when you look inward you feel the rising energy, it isn?t yet manifest in the outer world. The ancient kings understood this well when they closed the frontiers and didn?t attempt ?business as normal? before the days had lengthened.

What of the moving lines? They seem to show different ways of moving with the return - I would think you can see these as opportunities or warnings, possibilities you can expect to encounter.

Line 3 - being ?on the brink of returning?, this could represent the moment before a decision (maybe to say something, express your feelings, turn something from theory into practice). Other hexagrams around this line (like the inner pattern of change, 54, and the step of change 36) imply that you do not feel in control of how this unfolds at all. It is an anxious moment, maybe fraught with indecision, certainly with hidden dangers, but it can be negotiated safely. Or in other words, the anxieties don?t reflect any real, fundamental problem.

Line 5 - lovely! Wise, generous, honest and real. When you feel that all this is present, how could there be anything wrong?

Line 6 - not so lovely, obviously, in fact really alarming. Some of the problem, like Chinuajin says, is in the aggressive ?take the lead and make it happen? approach. The right approach to Hexagram 24 is to ?let it happen?, and nurture the rising energy with the qualities of Earth. If you have the feeling you need to ?mobilise the troops? to make things happen, this could be a sign of how remote you are from the original energy that returns of its own accord. That in itself could explain the disquieting reference to delusion and blindness.

Here is what LiSe has to say about this line. ( Visit her site and follow links to YiJing, book of the moon for more!)
?One feels the right Way deep down inside, in one?s ?bones?. If there are other thing overruling this primitive knowledge, even if they are rational, of common sense, or things people ?approve? of, the results of one?s actions, even one?s entire life, will be a big disaster.?

Other ideas? the step of change (from changing this line alone) points you to Hexagram 27, and the possibility that your own fundamental needs could distort your perceptions. The moving lines together create an outer pattern of change of Hexagram 53, which is obviously very good for a relationship but reinforces more than ever the idea that in practice you have to wait for him, and can?t make things happen single-handedly.


Hm - that really is fragmentary, isn?t it? It?s meant to fit into the picture that you and Chinuajin have already painted - I hope it helps!

Hilary

P.S. I?m really not sure I believe in things happening ?just by chance? any more!

 

[lafragolina]

Dear Hilary,
Thank you so very much! Things have quite evolved since I posted and got Chinuajin's interpretation. Your words couldn't have come in a better moment, believe me. Talking about things happening by chance...! Now, hexagram 24 has started revealing itself and I am trying to work with this evolution. Let it flow, let it flow, let it flow, this is what I tell myself every day to try and balance passion and reality. But can there actually be a balance here? Well, I suppose yes and that is what I am trying to figure out.
Thanks again,
La Fragolina