33.1.3 to 25 grateful for help !

[Celeryeatscucumber]

I have asked a more direct question regards my relationship with my ex of 4years. We are now on a break for 6 months after difficulties. We have agreed to meet in a couple months to see how we feel.

I am in the position where I am fearful to meet again in case there is no chance of success, and I have to go through the pain of the split again.

The question: Is there any chance that me and david could spend our lives together in relationship?

Thankyou so much xxx

 

[Celeryeatscucumber]

It could be that the i ching is telling me to retreat from asking questions and fall into innocence !!

 

[Celeryeatscucumber]

I cannot grasp whether the 33 in the 1st and 3rd line means the retreat in referring to the "break" or whether a toatal retreat is necessary....yet 33 talks about retreat, rather than surrender. Also 25 is double sided containing harvest and yet also lack. How is it possible to make interpretations based on seeming opposites? what am I missing? !

 

[mirian]

The question: Is there any chance that me and david could spend our lives together in relationship?

Hi celery,

If I had your reading I would take the answer as a no, specifically based on your question that focus on a long-term relationship. In my view, the reading advises to withdraw, even though the lines show that this is far from an easy task. There's pain and affliction, doubts about whether or not this is the right decision, and a suggestion that you could try to remain in good terms. All quite hard, I know.

I hope someone else has a different experience with this reading because I honestly don't.

 

[Celeryeatscucumber]

Yes I see, thankyou for your interpretation. I wonder what bearing 25 has on the reading, and if there is the possibility that the difficulty in retreating has to do with the 'break' which currently is very difficult. Is 33 withdraw or reatreat...there seems to be multiple interpretations. Its very interesting learning how to interpret !

 

[rosada]

I see 33 - 25 as describing the fact the two of you have agreed to step back from the relationship which I suppose was clogged up with misunderstandings and bad habits, so you can return to a state of innocence, a place where you can have a fresh start. So as to whether there is any hope for relationship I vote yes there is but only if your attitude is that you are creating a brand new beginning, not just a time out before you jump back into the ring and start fighting again.

Hexagram 25. Innocence is an interesting one when you consider the sequence:
20. Seeing
21. Problems to be bitten through
22. Gracefully whitewashed leads to
23.Splitting Apart.

In order to
24. Return to
25. Innocence

one must follow the steps outlined in 24. mainly an honest acknowledgement of the issues. That is, if you study the lines you see 24. is about forgiveness and how one must be willing to completely admit their errors in order for the errors to be forgiven for only then can one Return to Innocence.

So while 33 - 25 describes the first step for a re connection - retreat until you can feel you can start up again without dragging in old hurts - but also I feel there is also a feeling that the problems should not be shoved under the carpet but instead they should be discussed when you see each other in a completely honest, non-blaming sort of way so they can be forgiven and forgotten and THEN you will truly be able to have a chance at a new beginning. Otherwise you'll just be doing 22. Grace again, pretending things are all lovely and then you hit 23. and Split Apart once more.

 

[butterfly spider]

I had this reading when a friend and I had a misunderstanding at University many years ago. She was into hair dryers, nail polish, sunbathing on loungers and drinking cocktails. I was into wash and go, cycling, climbing, rowing and setting off with a rucksack. We were going on holiday together - a club-18 style thing because it was cheap. I thought that I could do some good swimming and walking in Corfu, she thought that she could do some sunbathing, drinking at the bar and meeting men. We did go away, but it was a bit of a disaster as she wanted to sleep in til 1pm and then spend the afternoon preparing for the evening, whilst I was up at 6am jogging, swimming and getting ready to go on an adventure at 9am.......the bit about the men was Ok though, as I returned raring to go discoing (sorry I am quite old). OUr differences were not wrong, they were just as they were. We arranged another holiday, but really we thought that we really needed to go away with other people. I arranged to go on a safari - she asked if she could bring her hair rollers.........so we decided to holiday apart. HOPE THIS HELPS. i GOT THIS READING THEN ABOUT GOING ON HOLIDAY THE SECOND TIME WITH MY FRIEND.

 

[radiofreewill]

Hi Celeryeatscucumber,

"Is there any chance that me and david could spend our lives together in relationship?"
33.1.3 to 25 ~ Withdrawing early (.1) before it's too late (.3) is No Error (25).

This cast suggests that you don't have much reserve energy available in the event of a clash, and the fortune for hexagram 25 says that "his misconduct brings disaster" ~ so, you are advised to withdraw promptly at the first sign of the old problems ~ if you don't withdraw promptly, then you will become bound in stagnation and tend towards illness.

So, there is a chance that you and david can make a healthy reconnect, but, but, but, the odds are low enough that you should err on the side of being self-protective.

I hope this helps!

 

[moss elk]

It could be that the i ching is telling me to retreat from asking questions and fall into innocence !!

No, it is advising you to retreat from him and describing the difficulty you are having in the retreat. I see 25 as innocent-but-still-has-misfortune, or
Retreat and what happened is not your fault.