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I asked "what if i do a whole new thing in the new year, in terms of my message and approach" which is somewhat vague but that's how it always is for me at first, just following a small seed of a message that's in my heart and then evolving it over time. I want to focus more on collective needs and action, move away from hyper focus on individual problems and issues.

I received 39UC. So, this either is a clear "no", telling me this inclination isn't leading the right way or it's simply describing that this is what I would be doing, finding another way out of the stagnation I've been feeling. I'm leaning toward the latter but I wonder if that's because I feel stuck and I just want some way forward to emerge.
 
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After asking this I had a small, simple first project I could start with. "If I have people sign up for this new offering"

42.1.2 > 59

The lines seem positive for something new; the hidden line of 20.2 could mean a few things. It could mean that if I don't know the bigger picture of project not to do it. However, the project itself is about subscribing to a succinct daily message... maybe it's just describing the offering itself?
 

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39uc means meetings obstacles & turning away, so I agree that the new thing won't lead you where you expect.

42.1.2>59, on the other hand, is positive: it's good o have people do it for you, it's really beneficial. I see 59- dispersion- as having other do/share this job rather than having all for yourself.
 

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39uc means meetings obstacles & turning away, so I agree that the new thing won't lead you where you expect.

42.1.2>59, on the other hand, is positive: it's good o have people do it for you, it's really beneficial. I see 59- dispersion- as having other do/share this job rather than having all for yourself.
This is helpful; I can focus on a smaller specific project and wait for the rest to unfold more organically.
 

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I asked "what if i do a whole new thing in the new year, in terms of my message and approach". I received 39UC. So, this either is a clear "no" ... or it's simply describing ... finding another way out of the stagnation.

Cyrille Javary titles Hex. 39, "Overcoming What Causes Obstruction". The hexagram image shows flooding in the mountain passes - trigrams (3-line figures) Water above Mountain - which results in an impasse, or impassable situation, but one that can be overcome, either through timing or taking a different path.

Some possible ways to look at this:

Looking at the trigrams as both obstruction and the way(s) around obstruction:

* Trigram Mountain suggests it will take some time and patience for you to get past the "stagnation (you've) been feeling." Patience, as in waiting for the flood waters to recede and the pass (path) to be open again. Trigram mountain is also about discernment, looking back at what has worked for you and what hasn't - perhaps too, what you're drawn to, moved or inspired by ... and then deciding which of these (ideas, goals, feelings, ways of being ... ) you want to carry with you, through late winter's mountain pass and into the new year!

* Trigram Water suggests that whatever you decide, that you go/travel deeply along whatever 'river' you have decided to flow down/with; and that perhaps you do not need multiple 'messages and approaches', but (at least for now) that you go deeply into one. There is a sense of heightened awareness as well, that you pay attention to the journey, both to it's challenges and it's opportunities.

Another way to see this (and/or supplemental information):

'South and west are favorable; north and east are not. Time to see the great one. Omen of good fortune.' (based on trans. by S. Field)

* Looking again at the trigrams, Flame (in the south) suggests you approach your 'message and approach' with clarity, and that you 'play well with others' (as flame does with wind and wood); there is also the sense of protection - for your self and/or others - though I don't know how this applies in this situation. Lake (in the west) suggests that you bring a sense of joy to your search and to what you ultimately decide to do. And reminiscent of Flame, there's a sense of celebrating with others - as the village would do after a successful (joyous) fall harvest.

* Often when we're looking at a new career or a new way of being, we think we have to decide on 'one perfect thing'! But more broadly speaking, here you are being told you have options - at least two (south, west), perhaps more - and the point is not so much what you decide (from among the options available to you); but ...

... it's how you walk your walk (approach, attitude) and talk your talk (messages, communication) wherever you decide to go!

I hope that's of some use for you.

Best, D
 
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Hello,
I tend to see your two prints as positive, even with 39, as dfreed points out here, "overcoming the causes of obstruction".
With the beautiful 42.1.2 lines, it really bodes well. It seems the right path to take, a good springboard... 59 in context : dissolving tensions makes it possible to seize the great opportunity – the right choices, the right tools – to progress 42 🌺
 

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I asked "what if i do a whole new thing in the new year, in terms of my message and approach"

I received 39UC.

So, this either is a clear "no", telling me this inclination isn't leading the right way.

To m.e. , It's a clear no.

You asked about a certain path, seeking an augury for that path, and were advised against that path.

Over-thinking leads to confusion
and loss of willpower.
 
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It's a clear no.

Are you saying that he should not consider at all, a "whole new thing in the new year, in terms of ... message and approach"? - in light of the fact that the Yi says: "South and west are favorable; north and east are not. Time to see the great one. Omen of good fortune." ?

Without overthinking it, it seems there are choices here, some of which are favorable and not all that confusing.

D.
 

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Are you saying that he should not consider at all, a "whole new thing in the new year, in terms of ... message and approach"? - in light of the fact that the Yi says: "South and west are favorable; north and east are not. Time to see the great one. Omen of good fortune." ?

Without overthinking it, it seems there are choices here, some of which are favorable and not all that confusing.

D.

He can considet it all he likes.

39 is quite often, generally even,
a big fat No.

I'm saying that when one simplifies complex and conflicting thoughts and feelings about any matter, and then simplifies it to this fundemental reality:

Querent has an idea
(which would become a path)
Asks about that path,
and receives a 39 ,
it means 'No, not that way'
 
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Querent ... Asks about that path, and receives a 39 ,
it means 'No, not that way'

That is one way of looking at it for sure. Given the Yi's text and imagery for 39, I'm open to other possibilities and meanings:

"The path is blocked - but not forever; therefore, consider other alternatives, ways of being (as described in the text and trigrams), or simply wait for this path to be open again."
 

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Yes, that tendency is apparent.

And you mean what by this? That it is apparent that the Yi offers us possibilities; and that people do different interpretations based on these possibilities? OR .... do you mean you tend to have a more cut-and-dry, black-and-white approach to the Yi (which you are perhaps suggesting is the only correct interpretation)?

I too think the Yi is sometimes cut and dry, but in this case, I'm going with the former, because this person's query is "somewhat vague .... just following a small seed of a message that's in my heart and then evolving it over time". I don't get the sense of a yes-or-no query here - or of any huge red flags screaming 'stop, no!', so I didn't see that it deserves a yes-or-no interpretation.

Different strokes.
 

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Thank you @Matali @moss elk and @dfreed ! I appreciate your interpretations. If nothing else, I received confirmation that there are different ways to see the first casting. I will have to feel into it a bit longer. I wonder if advice can still be taken in the sense that it’s about turning away from dead ends; I don’t have an incredibly clear destination so perhaps it’s about a certain quality of following as some of you mentioned above too.

Often when we're looking at a new career or a new way of being, we think we have to decide on 'one perfect thing'! But more broadly speaking, here you are being told you have options - at least two (south, west), perhaps more - and the point is not so much what you decide (from among the options available to you); but ...

... it's how you walk your walk (approach, attitude) and talk your talk (messages, communication) wherever you decide to go!
This is actually very resonant and feels true to the circumstance.


dissolving tensions makes it possible to seize the great opportunity – the right choices, the right tools – to progress 42
This makes a lot of sense!
It's a clear no.

You asked about a certain path, seeking an augury for that path, and were advised against that path.
That definitely seemed a distinct possibility. It very well may be true. I also wondered if it meant I might simply not have the energy for it or end up seeing it a very different way by the time I am actually pulling the trigger, so to speak.
 

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In my own, restricted, experience ( I just casted 39UC once, that I recall...) retrospectevily it was, no, not an obstacle that can be ar that you want overcome. So I agree with MossElk, 100%.
I hope this can help a little.
 

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In my own, restricted, experience ( I just casted 39UC once, that I recall...) retrospectevily it was, no, not an obstacle that can be ar that you want overcome. So I agree with MossElk, 100%.
I hope this can help a little.
thank you so much, I appreciate it
 

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