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A thunderstorm comes during periods of warmth (possibly drought). Thus when thunder above water is illustrated, we interpret an immediate sense of relief. It is not surprising that you still feel a sense of unease - as the changing line's position is both early in the change and sitting in the center of turmoil - water. Anxious expectation of what may come similarly fits the trigram's description as the Autumn season. Winter is coming, which we now enter by moving into the hexagram of happiness. Specifically, the center of receptivity-to-experience (its lower trigram: Earth). The sages see this new position and think to themselves - firm as a rock.
When you cast this reading, you were delivered. Not because the Ching could reassure you by predicting an outcome, but because it could reflect and validate your immediate level of understanding. Both anxious negativity and optimistic positivity were slain by the weapon of knowledge (yellow arrow).
Now she waits firm as a rock for a length of time which is (in the grand scale) barely even a whole day.
"Is this kidney thing a serious issue?" RESPONSE: 40.2 > 16
... my interpretation is that the CT scan will find nothing, and that the possible mass is not really there. I am basing this on the deceptiveness aspect of 40.2 and seeing through to the real issues.
@dfreed Thank you so much for your thorough explanation, and for connecting the hexes to TCM; this is super helpful for me and it gives me a lot to think about. I really appreciate you taking the time to model your thinking for me - it really helps me to learn. Do you also think the possible "game" I could be hunting might be the mass itself, i.e. this is the cause of my other issues, or do you think it is more general, i.e. the game is my health itself? As for the deceptiveness, I gathered that from reading previous threads where the line came up in that context, but I see you disagree. What is your take on the line?I don't see any 'deceptiveness' with 40.2?
With Hex. 40, you have Water as the lower trigram (lower three lines). In traditional Chinese medicine trigram Water is related to the kidneys, and with the 2nd line moving, this could indicate an imbalance, but one that may be in the early stages. This changes to Earth (the lower trigram of 16), which could indicate that there is a down-to-earth solution to what's going on with you. Trigram Earth is also about caring and nurturing, and it makes me wonder if it's a call for your to take better care of yourself - as Mother Earth might do towards her children?
The text for 40.2 reads:
In the hunting field, getting three foxes. Bronze arrows. Augury Auspicious. (Translation, Richard Rutt)
Perhaps this is about 'hunting' for this imbalance - trying to find out what is happening with you, and your 'possible renal mass' and the 'number of related health issues' you mention.
The lower nuclear trigram (lines 2,3,4) is Fire/ Flame, and it indicates to me that you need to shine a light on what's happening, to see what's going on, and gain some clarity about it! In traditional Asian medical diagnosis (e.g. China, Tibet), they might read your pulses or examining your urine, etc., but here in the west we use tests (blood, urine), and CT scans and MRIs to 'see' (shine a light on) what's going on.
When we're hunting for game, we need to be aware (in your case, inwardly), and also have the right tools - like a bronze arrow - to achieve our goal. The same applies in your case.
The upper trigram in both Hex. 40 and Hex. 16 is Thunder - this denotes shock or our reaction to what is new or shocking: with Hex. 40, it seems you may be a bit shocked - perhaps fearful - about your situation and your not knowing; but with Hex 16, perhaps Thunder becomes more like an unexpected joyful response, perhaps that you learn you are okay, or even if you have something amiss, it will end up okay!
This brings to mind words from Hex. 51, Thunder, and how they apply to your situation - the 'change' from 40 to 16: "shaking comes, frightening, frightening, then laughing words, shouting shouting!" (Translation, Stephen Karcher.)
I hope that's of some use to you. Best, D
(I did a bit of editing above, so make sure to take another look!)Do you also think the possible "game" I could be hunting might be the mass itself, i.e. this is the cause of my other issues, or do you think it is more general, i.e. the game is my health itself? As for the deceptiveness, I gathered that from reading previous threads where the line came up in that context, but I see you disagree. What is your take on the line?
@dfreed Thank you for clarifying. On my post is shows "40.2>16 about a potential medical issue." Is that not what you see? Or did you mean that I should include the hex and lines in some different way?(I did a bit of editing above, so make sure to take another look!)
Of course the 'game' and the 'hunting' can be (or is) about looking for the mass or whatever is causing an imbalance. That's why I mentioned it. (And I think that's what the MRI and CT scan are about.) As to more details, I really don't know. There are people who are more well versed at using the Yi for medical diagnosis, but that's not something I know much more about.
Some may disagree, but I think that any line or any reading can be (or is) different, based on the situation that we're asking about. So if I get 40.2 >16 when I am asking about which college to attend, it would be telling me something different, and it wouldn't be about CT scans! And when I go for my next colonoscopy they will be using a different 'light' than the one they are using with you!
For you, I sense / feel / see that 40.2 is about 'hunting' - finding out what's going on; and using the correct tool(s) for this; and a 'bronze arrow' may be about getting down to Earth (bronze, the color of yellow soil) or it's about a shiny 'bright' arrow (tool, object) which provides clarity ....
But I'm just not seeing or sensing 'deception' in the line, unless perhaps I asked: 'what is it that my neighbor is deceiving me about?" In that case, it could be about deception!
I hope that answers your questions.
FYI - a tip: when you post a reading, I think it's good to include the Hexagrams, lines in the title or at least at the beginning of your thread, so we don't have to hunt and peck for it. No biggie, just a thought.
Hi ichisue,Just a brief update to say that not much has happened. As I mentioned in my earlier posts, I had asked my provider to expedite the request for the MRI. Unfortunately, they did not, and I will likely not hear back until the middle of next week. I need to be out of my current apartment, and despite nearly 3 months of searching, I have not found a place here that I can stay. So it looks like I'll be relocating, either temporarily or permanently; so, unless things change, I won't be getting this test (at least for a while). My provider did say that these masses can be common, and since mine is unconfirmed, it may not be that big of a deal. Here's hoping, because this period of time has been intensely chaotic, with little in the way of concrete answers or directions to go.
If I do end up getting the test at some point, I'll be sure to update again. Thanks to all who offered interpretations, and to those who chimed in just to root for me - I appreciate you.
Hi Jen,Hi ichisue,
By chance do you have any additional update now that it's been a few months? I just received this same reading in regards to a medical test I am also waiting on results for... Hope you are well and everything turned out ok.
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