40.6 to 64 How fitting

[MusicianSavant]

A 3 year relationship I had ended 6 months ago very suddenly and abruptly and I am sure I have asked way to many questions to I-ching. I have received some more positive answers and some more negative answers about what's going on, why did this happen? Every way you could phrase a question about a relationship I have done, even the dreaded yes or no questions. Trojina, Rosada, Willowfox, Bradford, and so many more have enlightened me so much on reading so many of their posts in exploring divination and here in shared readings, I thank you for all the years all you have contributed.Long story short, I had gone through quite a depression after this and I'm starting to come out of it hopefully. And I admit sometimes I've had my doubts about the legitimacy of some of this but given the amount of possible combinations of readings and already being a person that believes in a lot of spiritual things some readings today couldn't been more timely.I'm tired of obsessing over this person and I'm finally ready to try to let them go as best I can. This person was very hurtful and disrespectful to me and betrayed me in ways that I can never forget so today I asked a few questions in succession and it couldn't have been more pointed.1. What do I need to do about me and L.?40.6 to 64. After reading the line and Dekorne's page, it struck me. I was already in the process of writing a goodbye I'm Letting Go letter to this individual that I was going to send. I take this reading is I'm not across yet there is unfinished business but it is my duty to take out the promoter of rebellion, the negative influence that is oppressed me and held me down for so long to be able to turn the situation back to a state of balance. And the image of shooting a hawk on top of the wall couldn't be more fitting. Wing: Prepare yourself to forcefully dispense with a great adversary. This is done with careful planning and clever timing. This is a formidable enemy so you must be constantly alert. When you have removed this obstacle to your progress, everything that you attempt will succeed.In this letter I stated what I've done wrong and taking responsibility for all things that I contributed to the end. Also I took a middle-of-the-road approach yet Stern about the Betrayal hurt and things that this individual did to me in the end. I kept it to the point and was very cordial yet informing the individual that this was my end of the line closure letter. I believe regardless of how this message will be received, for me it's a cathartic release allowing me to break free of these chains and move forward. So I plan on sending it sometime next week.I have a question, when you get a reading is there a specific time limit on that reading? For example since I read this today am I supposed to send this today or is there a time limit? Another question regarding that, does the reading one gets, do you believe that is only in that moment of time and can change minute by minute based on emotions by the querent or the subject of what it's about? Just curiousI also received other readings that told me things I believe are tied together.What if I reach out to her?13.5.6 >55Line 5 tells me that maybe it will bring us together in some superficial peace or HarmonyLine 6 tells me since we live quite a distance away about an hour it's quite nicely with people in harmony of the outskirts altar.What will reaching out and sending the message do for me?22.3 > 27Line 3.'Beautiful, as if dipped in water.Ever-flowing constancy, good fortune.'I believe it will either make me look good or better in her eyes and provide me nourishment or maybe both of us nourishment in release.What will happen after i send that letter?39.4 > 31Line 4Going on, limping; coming back, connection.'I take this as we are an impasse, which we are if I press on I will deal with more obstacles so come back and make a connection. What I'm wondering is if that means after I send the letter to retreat and she comes back? Or I make a connection with someone else in the future seeing as the relating hexagram is 31.There were a couple of more but basically when I got out of these readings was it's time to put an end to this oppression especially with 40.6 as I take that line is the feudal Duke removing the bird of prey or the oppressor from above.The letter has been written and is going to be sent out next week. What say you about my interpretations where am I wrong and where I'm I right? I appreciate your time

 

[MusicianSavant]

I apologize for the wall of text when I entered all this information in it didn't look like how it looks now. If somebody knows how to fix it please advise

 

[equinox]

Hello MusicianSavant, I reorganised the text for you. Okay? Maybe you can copy it and put it in your EP -- I hope this works -- and afterwards I delete my posting.

A 3 year relationship I had ended 6 months ago very suddenly and abruptly and I am sure I have asked way to many questions to I-ching.
I have received some more positive answers and some more negative answers about what's going on, why did this happen?
Every way you could phrase a question about a relationship I have done, even the dreaded yes or no questions.

Trojina, Rosada, Willowfox, Bradford, and so many more have enlightened me so much on reading so many of their posts in exploring divination and here in shared readings, I thank you for all the years all you have contributed.

Long story short, I had gone through quite a depression after this and I'm starting to come out of it hopefully. And I admit sometimes I've had my doubts about the legitimacy of some of this but given the amount of possible combinations of readings and already being a person that believes in a lot of spiritual things some readings today couldn't been more timely.

I'm tired of obsessing over this person and I'm finally ready to try to let them go as best I can. This person was very hurtful and disrespectful to me and betrayed me in ways that I can never forget so today I asked a few questions in succession and it couldn't have been more pointed.

1. What do I need to do about me and L.?40.6 to 64.
After reading the line and Dekorne's page, it struck me. I was already in the process of writing a goodbye I'm Letting Go letter to this individual that I was going to send. I take this reading is I'm not across yet there is unfinished business but it is my duty to take out the promoter of rebellion, the negative influence that is oppressed me and held me down for so long to be able to turn the situation back to a state of balance. And the image of shooting a hawk on top of the wall couldn't be more fitting.

Wing: Prepare yourself to forcefully dispense with a great adversary. This is done with careful planning and clever timing. This is a formidable enemy so you must be constantly alert. When you have removed this obstacle to your progress, everything that you attempt will succeed.

In this letter I stated what I've done wrong and taking responsibility for all things that I contributed to the end. Also I took a middle-of-the-road approach yet Stern about the Betrayal hurt and things that this individual did to me in the end. I kept it to the point and was very cordial yet informing the individual that this was my end of the line closure letter. I believe regardless of how this message will be received, for me it's a cathartic release allowing me to break free of these chains and move forward. So I plan on sending it sometime next week.

I have a question, when you get a reading is there a specific time limit on that reading? For example since I read this today am I supposed to send this today or is there a time limit? Another question regarding that, does the reading one gets, do you believe that is only in that moment of time and can change minute by minute based on emotions by the querent or the subject of what it's about?
Just curious I also received other readings that told me things I believe are tied together.


What if I reach out to her?13.5.6 >55
Line 5 tells me that maybe it will bring us together in some superficial peace or Harmony
Line 6 tells me since we live quite a distance away about an hour it's quite nicely with people in harmony of the outskirts altar.

What will reaching out and sending the message do for me?22.3 > 27Line 3.
'Beautiful, as if dipped in water.Ever-flowing constancy, good fortune.'I believe it will either make me look good or better in her eyes and provide me nourishment or maybe both of us nourishment in release.

What will happen after i send that letter?39.4 > 31
Line 4 Going on, limping; coming back, connection.'
I take this as we are an impasse, which we are if I press on I will deal with more obstacles so come back and make a connection.
What I'm wondering is if that means after I send the letter to retreat and she comes back? Or I make a connection with someone else in the future seeing as the relating hexagram is 31.

There were a couple of more but basically when I got out of these readings was it's time to put an end to this oppression especially with 40.6 as I take that line is the feudal Duke removing the bird of prey or the oppressor from above.The letter has been written and is going to be sent out next week.

What say you about my interpretations where am I wrong and where I'm I right? I appreciate your time

 

[equinox]

Another question regarding that, does the reading one gets, do you believe that is only in that moment of time and can change minute by minute based on emotions by the querent or the subject of what it's about?

My personal experience is, that the initial question -- or let's say the initial questions -- often give the most widespread answer about your matter.
The more often you ask, I believe, the more the Yi will illuminate little resp. partial aspects of your situation or rather mirror your inner feelings and thoughts.
Possible is also, after you aked the same thing over and over, that the Yi answers on any other, total different matter of your life.
I think the best condition for receiving a comprehensible answer on excactly what you asked is to be totally align with your question. This may happen if you are busy (being obsessed is something else) with this specific question anyway, or if you are too distracted, you could also meditate over it before asking the oracle.

I think if you are you lovelorn and ask each day, over and over, variations of "will they come back to me", the answers will be more and more unintellegible and almost impossible to put in context.
I am sure the Yi still wants to tell you something then, but it will talk to fast for you to understand.

I also tend to ask too much and remember that often the first answer I received was telling me the truth I had to know of a situation in order to work with it.
Do your remember your first result relating to your matter?

Here are two threads dealing with your questions, if you didn't find them yet:

https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?24913-Types-of-answers

I have a question, when you get a reading is there a specific time limit on that reading? For example since I read this today am I supposed to send this today or is there a time limit?

I think the result you receive will let you know if it is urgent or not to act on something.

https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?23887-A-question-about-time

 

[diamanda]

What do I need to do about me and L.? 40.6 > 64
She's a dangerous person, and no matter how much you try, you can't outwit or get rid of her.
40.6 shows indeed trying to get rid of a predator, but line 6 shows the situation is beyond relief.
64 says that any effort to 'hit' someone nasty won't succeed I'm afraid.
So, what you need to do - sorry to say but probably best to do nothing.

What if I reach out to her? 13.5.6 > 55
She will keep you as a friend, from a distance, and there will be many such interactions between you.

What will reaching out and sending the message do for me? 22.3 > 27
Your heart is in love with her (22.3) and you'll still be hungry for her, so what's the point of a closure message?

What will happen after i send that letter? 39.4 > 31
Sounds like you won't be able to leave the situation and you'll still try to woo her.

In conclusion, you won't achieve anything by sending a closure letter, because it doesn't sound that closure is what you want. This person will not say sorry, most probably won't admit to any of her mistakes, and she won't come after you. If you really want her back in your life, imo, you'd need a totally different approach, not the one you have in mind. However I must say that she doesn't sound like a great person to have around, so maybe it would be best to put your efforts into finding someone new..? Just saying, and fingers crossed for you whatever you decide to do

 

[equinox]

In conclusion, you won't achieve anything by sending a closure letter, because it doesn't sound that closure is what you want.

That's very often, that those so-called closure letters or conversations are an unconscious attempt to re-open the dialogue. So, yes, better think twice about your motifs, MusicianSavant!

 

[MusicianSavant]

Odd, for some reason I cannot open this page or any readings page via phone but on a laptop I can? Interesting, Thank you for your help Diamanda and Equinox. I don't know how you organized that text but it's great, thx. I am going to re-examine this situation and decide in the near future what to do, if I sent the letter I will update.

 

[MusicianSavant]

And now I can't edit the original post, after I clicked the edit button it just spins its wheels. : /

 

[rosada]

Just wanting to add my two cents and say that I have found hexagram 64 to refer to situations where you have completed one thing and now must plan what you are going to do next - think of an actor who has completed one show and now must search for his next gig. I think in terms of your situation it is a warning that you need to plan what you'll do after sending this message so you move on or you may find yourself feeling it's not yet complete and you're left
waiting for a response. So I think it's important that your letter - if you do indeed mean it to be a final goodbye - should be something that really does end things rather than suggests any hint that you'd like to get back together. I hear Bob Dylan's song, "Don't think Twice," and also Whitney Huston's "I will always love you." Anyway, since you been apart for months I don't think it makes much difference if you send the message now or next week.

13.6 sounds like even in sending her a closure message you could say something pleasant like "Even as we move on, I'll always remember our good times." 55. Sounds like this is as far as this relationship can go.

You ask if I Ching answers last or change if the circumstances change. I find that if I really get the message from the I Ching, especially if it causes me to change my attitude, then things can change totally. For example I asked once about giving a party. I received a reply that clearly showed why the party would be a flop. This inspired me to make changes and the party actually turned out to be a hit. The thing is, you really have to understand and act on the hexagram you first receive or a follow up question will not give you a clear answer and will probably add confusion. Read 4. Youthful Folly.

Further thoughts: I am not clear if you have been in communication since the break-up but if not then it seems unnecessary to write a note saying, "Just wanting to let you know I'm breaking up with you!" or "I'm not thinking about you anymore!" Better to just move on.

 

[MusicianSavant]

Thanks for your insight Rosada, it all makes sense. I'm still wrestling with sending it or not and to respond to something you stated.... In the letter I wrote the overall message was, "I don't know why you did what you did, It hurt me a lot but I am letting go of all the resentment and forgive you". There is no part of the message that asks for her back, the message I wrote was intended for a few things. 1. To address some things said and done to me that I didn't appreciate nor did I deserve in the end 2. To state that although I am not happy with the mistreatment that I forgive you because I can't live like this anymore 3. A general good luck and goodbye. I waited for 6 months for her to come back as I had given her many chances in the past where she wronged me to come talk it out and we worked it out but this time, and how abrupt and how indifferent and unwilling she was to even talk anything out was a shock. Couple that with stringing me along, extorting money out of me by guilt, and using me apologizing to her to allow herself to "nourish" herself off my pain and panic was such a betrayal. She asked for time apart, I gave it to her, and when I finally reached out to talk things out I was immediately met with hatred, and a threat even though my message was nothing but positive and respectful. So for a long time I held on to a lot of animosity for what she had done to me but I realized recently that she lied to me about some things as well as my suspicions of her being with someone else (maybe even monkey branching while were at the end) that I am at a breaking point and can't live like this anymore, something's gotta give. She's never reached out to apologize, never reached out to work things out and matter of fact rubbed in my face how great her life is and has been since we weren't together anymore, mocking me. So I have one of two options, take the high road either way in 1. Retreat and keeping a low profile as I have and just never ever contact her again or 2. Reach out to respectfully dispel some of the things I was accused of, tell her I forgive her, have a nice life and that would be it. I guess in either case the result is the same but the letter (for me) would allow me to feel better that I at least had my say in some things in the end that were refused to be heard in person at the point of break up and after. Of course I would be lying and as Diamanda so aptly put, of course some parts of me want her back, for me the connection was that deep but in all reality I pretty much know where i stand either way. The only downside I could see from the letter is her knowing that I was still suffering and pining after her for so long, nourishing her even more which based on the last hostile response I got from her wouldn't be far from what would most likely happen. As I stated I am wrestling with it but as the I Ching points out in so many hexagrams my "self" and "ego" are arguing. It's hard to control or stymie a bruised ego, this has been the most trying difficult year of my life and it's not just her that is the problem. I may lose my job, and in turn lose my house and in the end she promised me she wouldn't let that happen but then disappeared. Life right now isn't good but hopefully here's to things looking up........ Thx for all the help so far, not only here but in so many other threads I have read.

 

[MusicianSavant]

Update:Last night I came across some information that pretty much confirms my suspicions of her being with someone else. When I retrace a timeline of events, things she's said and done to me in the last few months and what I found out last night it's all pretty clear that there is someone in the picture. The indifference, complete withdrawal, threats and general hatred and disrespect she has shown me the last few months along with breaking every single promise she made me all makes sense now. I am not going to send the message or any message for that matter, thank you all for your help. If I ever hear from here again or this saga continues I will continue to update as updates really help.From what I can gather from all the readings I got as far as 44's, 13's, 37's, 54's and others, seem to have been talking about her and this new guy, not pertaining to me and her. Take care

 

[MusicianSavant]

Oh forgot to add, on numerous occasions throughout this saga I asked Yi "Is L with someone else?" or "Is L seeing someone else?" or variations of that question, and although yes/no questions are tough to interpret, I received 40.2 > 16 a lot. Reading Dekorne's page on the matter numerous times under the commentary at notes and paraphrases area, the very last line struck a chord with me every time. I have pretty good intuition and receiving that line many times in regards to the question couldn't have been more clear.Editor: Arrow: The arrow has associations similar to the sword – the discriminating function. To shoot an arrow into the heart of the matter is to pierce its essence, to comprehend it completely. Yellow: Color of the mean, of the sun – suggests wisdom which comes from clarity: balanced perception. Fox: Common Asian symbol for evil, especially its wily or tricky aspects. Three: Symbol of dialectical synthesis or completion, as is the concept of the mean. The line images a situation in which careful discrimination perceives the elements of a problem.........Therefore, the doubts which have arisen in your heart out of ignorance should be slashed by the weapon of knowledge. Armed with yoga, O Bharata, stand and fight. Bhagavad-Gita.........A. Balanced insight into the situation differentiates and eliminates harmful elements..........B. Bull’s-eye! – your suspicions are confirmed.Unreal.

 

[equinox]

From what I can gather from all the readings I got as far as 44's, 13's, 37's, 54's and others, seem to have been talking about her and this new guy, not pertaining to me and her. Take care

I wouldn't be sure that the I-Ching was talking about her and 'this new guy'. For example, 54.4 can indicate that you 'marry' the person that you like later OR it can refer to the fact that you will be in a relationship with someone else later, either way it says that the relationship that you are wishing for (a good, committed relationship, I guess) will come later, "at its time".
Or -- as I put it in my second posting in this thread -- it can be a metaphor for any other matter in any other realm of your life. Since you asked obsessively, as you said, its unlikely that you were always connected with your question, hence it can easily be that the I-Ching referred to other things/events that you hadn't on your mind while asking, but still were important for you.

 

[rosada]

Thank you for the back story MusicianSavant.
The thing is, I just don't see how you sending her any message can benefit you, especially one saying you forgive her when she obviously doesn't believe she's done anything wrong - but whatever, you might benefit from checking out the movie Swingers - it's an oldie but it'll fast forward you through this whole transition.
Best wishes,
rosada

 

[MusicianSavant]

Swingers is a great movie, one of Favreau's best. Thx for all the help