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42.1>20

I asked:
"Show me the best way to connect with X" (for both of us) and got:

42.1>20

This is someone who I get much support from and vice versa. We had friction recently due to outside stressors and we've been giving it space to work itself out. X made some overtures to rebond and I made some back, but timing hasn't yet returned us 100%-- our schedules have been incredibly busy. Yet our supporting each other, even in busy times, is something great about our union. (I wonder if this is a part of the great good fortune of the line.)

I have been reading about 42.1 and have gleaned: great good fortune from selflessness and achieving a greater good. Setting an example. Contemplating divine laws to influence good.
The ideas are about spiritual laws-- about achieving something great from help on high.

Would like some help with interpreting how this relates to my question.
Thoughts, ideas, past experiences with 42.1?
Thank you:bows:
 
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Your're Blessed

I asked:
"Show me the best way to connect with X" (for both of us) and got:

42.1>20
It is a very positive line:

From the WikiWing:

Line 1

‘Harvest when you apply this to make great beginnings.
From the source, good fortune, no mistake.’

You’re blessed; use it! Keep moving!

42 zhi Hexagram 20, Seeing. Increase’s Seeing, a wide unhampered vision of all that’s possible.


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feeling the blessings!

Hmmm, thank you, Tiger. Interesting.
I've often felt our relating as blessed :)
I also got 54.4>19 when I asked about timing for this and took from that the simple fact that both X and I have been fairly busy and have had little time to connect--simply that other priorities are in play.

This 42.1 line reminds me, esp when I'm stressed and tired and sometimes overwhelmed, to recall how fortunate I am to be surrounded by wonderful, loving folks...and with your added interp, to realize a broader vision. It's a great nudge to give up any limited views and achieve greater things!

Thx :bows:
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It is a very positive line:

From the WikiWing:

Line 1

‘Harvest when you apply this to make great beginnings.
From the source, good fortune, no mistake.’

You’re blessed; use it! Keep moving!

42 zhi Hexagram 20, Seeing. Increase’s Seeing, a wide unhampered vision of all that’s possible.
 

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13.1.2.5>50, 50.6>32, 43.1.2>31

A bit more readings I've done about me and my friend.

I had lunch and dinner with my friend this past week and still feel "out of sorts" somehow about our relating because it's been... hmmm...guarded maybe.
I could really use my friend and support now.

I asked: how can we get to the friendship we want?
and got 13.1.2.5>50.
In looking at this, I see lines 1 and 2 about relating openly and honestly and without secrets or mistrust or talking bad about others.
And that after weeping and lamenting, we can rebond in a joyful way and I see 50 about making something good by cooking it correctly.

I got 50 in another reading I cast last month about how to strengthen our union and got:
50.6>32
Which talks of using softness and gentleness to get strength and holding on for the long haul. I like the imagery. What are others' insights about this line?

I also asked, how can i get more support from my friend now?

I got: 43.1.2>31
which I take line 1 as saying I can only go so far with getting support right now and line 2 to be on guard. Coupled with 31 I was thinking maybe this meant that we both care about each other and are dealing with stress so we can't support each other like we normally do?

I feel like having a heart to heart--which when we have had that in the past, works wonders. But I can't see the path yet...I wonder if these readings address that.

I could use some more insight with these, since my tiredness and stress affect my clarity.
Thank you:bows:
 

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I asked:
"Show me the best way to connect with X" (for both of us) and got:

42.1>20

Give your friend help and support, always be ready to help them as you have done in the past, therefore do not put restraints on your feelings of care for this person, go visit them soon.
 

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I asked: how can we get to the friendship we want?
and got 13.1.2.5>50.

Through genuine and honest feelings for each other, nothing hidden, all for one and one for all, and love. As what you put into the relationship is what is important, as that will shape the future of your union together.

I got 50 in another reading I cast last month about how to strengthen our union and got:
50.6>32

You want a lasting relationship then make it special yourself by showing your true colours, that you have a heart of gold and a firmness of conviction.

I also asked, how can i get more support from my friend now?

I got: 43.1.2>31

Encourage your friend to help you, ask if need be, look to them for advice and support, show them that you need their friendship.
 

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I feel like having a heart to heart--which when we have had that in the past, works wonders. But I can't see the path yet...I wonder if these readings address that.

You may not have seen the path without a light to guide you but your readings have now illuminated the path that you need to follow so rest assured the time is now right to go visit your friend.
 

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Giving Support

Give your friend help and support, always be ready to help them as you have done in the past, therefore do not put restraints on your feelings of care for this person, go visit them soon.

Hi Willowfox,
Nice to see you on the forum!

It's accurate what you said here, as I got this reading a couple of weeks ago when I was coming down with the flu; after I got better, I went to my friend and offered and gave help for some key things this past week that my friend had to get done.

I like your mention "don't put restraints on my feelings" as I feel some part of me was doing that and the reminder helps.

Thank you for the succinct and accurate insight!
 

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honest and loving friendship

I asked: how can we get to the friendship we want?
and got 13.1.2.5>50.

Through genuine and honest feelings for each other, nothing hidden, all for one and one for all, and love. As what you put into the relationship is what is important, as that will shape the future of your union together.

I got 50 in another reading I cast last month about how to strengthen our union and got:
50.6>32

You want a lasting relationship then make it special yourself by showing your true colours, that you have a heart of gold and a firmness of conviction.

I also asked, how can i get more support from my friend now?

I got: 43.1.2>31

Encourage your friend to help you, ask if need be, look to them for advice and support, show them that you need their friendship.

Thank you for these answers, Willowfox. Very helpful-- and I appreciate the time you take in answering.

I cast two of them after having dinner and lunch with my friend this past week, in which both of us seemed to be holding back/not as open (could be my misperception).

What I get most from your interp is the Yi's counsel for me to stop holding back--I think I was reading the lines of 43.1.2 as "don't be too eager" and "stay safe." But being on guard is opposite to building a loving, honest friendship, so that is where my confusion has been. And I've not felt right being on guard re: my friend, esp now when I need support.

These readings and your insights help alot to get me back to my normal openess and caring for my friend and our friendship. I'll move toward love--thank you!:bows:
 

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Hex 8 and union

An update re: my prior readings. Had drinks with my friend last night and have been using the guidance of these prior readings in getting back to being open and supportive with my friend who I adore.

I've been dealing with job stress lately and I can't seem to find the way to get support from my friend in a way I need. Or else I don't know what I need... in any case, my friend wanted to call it an early night and I left feeling a bit "alone." We were also with a mutual friend. Both friends gave support as we were parting for the night, and there were hugs all around and caring words.

I asked the Yi "Now what with my friend, same?" (meaning same as my prior readings) and got:
Hexagram 8 unchanged.

I found a few posts on here about 8 and this one seemed to speak to me:
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I think "examine yourself to see if your intent is pure" expresses the meaning. If that means consulting again, good. If you can adjust yourself to the proper intent just by considering it may need adjustment, so much the better.

By establishing the proper mindset, we are better able to cultivate friendly relations, and are able to rise to the occasion of leadership among those who hold together with us.
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I'm considering that maybe I can be more open to how I'm feeling and what my friends are offering and feeling and keep to my intent of creating harmony and love in my close relations.

Any thoughts on 8 with regard to my query today?

Appreciated:bows:
 

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I asked the Yi "Now what with my friend, same?" (meaning same as my prior readings) and got:
Hexagram 8 unchanged.

She needs to learn to trust you again, perhaps your friend is more sensitive than you realized and took the "friction" very personally and obviously never wants it to happen again. But she is still your friend, show her that she can trust you and she will okay again in a short while.
 

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regarding friction

Hi Willowfox,
I think you may have hit it on the head--what you mention seems like it might be the case here...I know the argument we had very much upset both of us and then we were not able to talk for a few weeks. But I felt somehow about the trust needing to be regained.
Thank you for the insight, this really helps! And I didn't see this in my cast of Hex 8.
I'm working with this and keeping the other readings in mind as well. I continue to mediate and use them.
Thanks to you and the Yi for illuminating things further.
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relating with loved ones

I invited my friend to brunch with the intent on seeing each other and spending some quality time together. My friend misunderstood(?) and went ahead and invited another mutual friend as well. I wanted to see my friend alone, as spending time with the 3 of us is a different dynamic. (The mutual friend dominates the conversation and I end up not really talking with my friend.) When I mentioned to my friend my preference to spend time with just us, I got the response that my friend would feel bad now uninviting our mutual friend.

I asked: what's the best way to act now?
22.4>30

and then: what if i don't go?
55.4>36
and what if i do go?
31 unchanged

I spent some time going through these lines and applying what I've found to the situation, which is helping broaden the view for me.
For 55.4 I found several meanings but this one struck a chord:
* 55.4 Working in darkness refers to Zhi Gua 36, Brightness Obscured, and to the
covert operations discussed at Fan Yao 36.4. To remain focused turns a dark
situation into an enlightened covert intelligence.
I also read something about darkness being a teacher and that meeting it offers wisdom.
Perhaps the Yi is saying there is a way to bring light to this situation by using what's here. Or: "the darkness gives way if you relate properly. Energy joined to modesty brings good fortune."

Then for Hex 31 unchanged, about reciprocity and relating with others:
Contact with others is a good thing. The contact can only be real and good if your individuality is the base of it. Success is assured when attraction is strengthened by mutual respect and support. Cultivate respect and honor toward those around you.

And then for 22.4>30
"Hexagram 22 is an invitation to think on what kind of reality you're creating through appearances. It can talk about self-image, about marketing, about communication in general. Express the essence so that people can relate to it."
This seems to fit this situation quite well.

With all this in hand, I realized that a few more friends have been trying to get together (we are a group of about 8) for weeks now and it came to me that perhaps a larger brunch (inviting more friends) might be a wonderful way for all of us to meet up and create mutual influence and share our light.

Any additional thoughts?:bows:
 
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on harmonious relating

Wondering if anyone has another take on this (regarding 22.4>30, 55.4, and 31) or am I missing anything in the lines?
I'm a bit confused because I have been considering my prior readings too, and wonder about time frames and which reading(s) still apply or if new ones "take their place" with time?
Comments or thoughts?
Much appreciated.
 

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She needs to learn to trust you again, perhaps your friend is more sensitive than you realized and took the "friction" very personally and obviously never wants it to happen again. But she is still your friend, show her that she can trust you and she will okay again in a short while.

These readings, all combined, turned out to be spot on with what was going on with my friend and me. The trust had to be restored and I had to become more consistent in my dealings with my friend in terms of being honest, having her back on all matters, being sincere and loving and not letting the "politics" of some outside dealings we were both involved with seep into our close and authentic bond. I followed the advice and slowly but surely, my friend came around (took a couple of months). We are now back to normal and I keep all these readings in mind as the best ways to connect with my friend, having learned from the experience of this.
Very grateful for the help of the forum, and thanks WF and TITB.
:)
 

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