51.1.6

[blue iris]

I have this court process going on and I asked what the result will be.

56.1.6 -> 35

The first line is saying that there is fear but good thing will come out of this. (it is a scary situation indeed)

What does 56.6 predict? Something bad?

But 35 looks promising as the result - maybe although the situation is scary, I will still win in the end?

What do you think?

 

[wbh4305]

Tell me the approximate time you cast the Hex, I may help you find the answer.

 

[blue iris]

Hello,

oh, I don't remember any more...but what do you think about that 5.6?
With the first line I have had some experience and it is mostly about shock...but the 6th line?

And does 35 predict a favorable answer for me?

 

[wbh4305]

I read the Hex in a different way, with calculations of the energies of some variables. That's why I need to know the date (and roughly time) you cast the coins. If you want my help, you may have another hex. No matter how many hexs you cast, they all carry the same info -- just like seeing an object from different angles, some may be easier to read, some may be harder.

 

[blue iris]

Hello, thanks for offering help!

I posted reply, but it didn't go trhough, so I am posting again.

I cast the coins today, that is 25 of June, at 11.11 AM. I asked how the situation in the court will evolve.

I got 1.1.->44

I don't like 44, it shows danger; 1.1 shows clearly that I need to wait.
So for now, nothing happening.

Then I asked: will I win in the court?

I got 2.1->24

I guess now there is nothing I can do, but eventually, things will become better.

How do you see this? Thank you.

 

[jeb]

Hi blue iris.

I am very sceptical of asking others to help interpret hexagrams that we are given. As you have seen in the responces you've already had, some interpret the words and images given in hexagrams differently to others.Bearing in mind also that the words and images can vary from one I Ching translation to another you can end up being more confused than ever!

In my view if you are really concerned ask someone else to do you a reading for your question.
best wishes
jack

 

[wbh4305]

blue iris,

I read both of your hexs (they carry almost the same information, as far as I understand), and found out that: you are more likely to win the law suit. The judge is slightly in favor of you. Seems in the end, you will get the money and the other side will keep the property (is this a law suit car-or-house-related? ). The suit should be brought to an end by Aug. or Sept. (if it delays further, it will be not good for you). Anyway, if I know more background about the lawsuit, I might have better ideas to explain the hexs.

Meanwhile, your Hexs contain some extra info. If you just ask "how is my lawsuit", the hex may reveal more direct info. Just like when you take a look at an object, you'd better look at it at the right angle. If you change the position of the object, it might be hard to read.

Carl

 

[wbh4305]

By the way, I think some people here may believe that there is a divine force with I-Ching.

As far as I understand, the I-Ching is a convenient reference book, complied by ancient wisemen, for people who don't know how to calculate/interpret with their own way. Yi study as a whole is more powerful has many usages and functions otherwise. Therefore, I suggest that people shouldn't take I-Ching as a book with divine powers and limit yourselves with certain rules. If you make use of it and try to go beyond it, you may find the true self.

 

[wbh4305]

Blue Iris,

Just read you the other post, and learnt that this is really about a house.

In this case, the Hexs tell pretty clearly: Now it's a bit tough for you, but things will go a little better into the next month, and things will turn around in early-mid Aug. By Sept, you will be mostly winning the case.

 

[jeb]

Help with reading

Hi blue iris
I have copied some advice from "this site".
This is a literal cut and paste about the I Ching which I hope may help you:

It won't tell you what to do
The danger with any form of divination is that the user starts to consult it for every decision, or tries to get it to take the responsibility of decision away from them. The I Ching gives that responsibility straight back! 'If you have no place to go,' it might say, 'it's fortunate to come back. If you have a direction to go, it's fortunate to set out at daybreak.' Or 'the first consultation is informative; the second and third create confusion.' In its kindly but decidedly blunt way, the I Ching cares for the people who use it.
And so one thing you will not find in the I Ching is an ideology or set of fixed rules for behaviour. Its answers are far too personal and specific for that. They show you exactly what kind of situation your question refers to: what its essence is, what is expressed in it, how the energy moves through it. Some courses of action would accord better with the nature of the moment, and hence be more successful, than others.
It won't predict a pre-ordained future
The I Ching reveals the truth about the present. It does not predict an inevitable future that you can only await helplessly, for the very good reason that no such thing exists! We are free individuals, so neither the I Ching nor any power on earth can predict what we'll decide before we decide it. The assumption behind using the I Ching is that your choices have the power to make a real difference in your own life and other people's.
It will help you meet that future well-prepared
What the I Ching does do - and this is an enormous help - is to tell you what challenges and opportunities you are likely to face if you take a particular path, and how you can negotiate the obstacles you meet. This is the opposite of 'fortune telling'. Being told what will happen, as if your own choices had nothing to do with the outcome, is deeply disempowering. The I Ching tells you what effects their choices will have, and helps you to develop strategies to achieve your goals.

 

[jesed]

No matter how many times one probes that the najia method of interpretation is a valid and old way to study the Yijing, (and even Hilary said it is a valid method to use in this forum), there is always someone who attemps to descredit it, when it is used in this forum. It is kindda dogmatic thing against it.

Blue Iris
I would add to Carl's interpretation, that you may find the oportunity to solve the trial by agreement, but that posibility would need to spend some amount of money in order to keep the house.

I would suggest to anticipate this posibility, so you could use the oportunity if it comes to you.

Best wishes

 

[wbh4305]

I-Ching is only one way of interpretation. And it's often too general and vague. Maybe some people here had never experienced with other methods of interpreting the hexagrams and would care to give it a try.

Najia is proven to be a much better method to intepret the hexagrams. (I myself may sometimes make mistakes, but that doesn't disqualify the method.) As a matter of fact, from over a thousand years, most of the Yi masters in China interpret using Najia, since it can tell very detailed processes and timeline of the past and the future. Many may found this unbelievable, but you need to keep an open-mind until you see the proof.

As far as if the third party can see if the hex is cast properly, well, there are many ways to verify it. If I can tell this is about a house or a car, and it really is about a house, then this hex may be a valid one. There are many things that can be read from a hex, as long as you master the technique.

 

[blue iris]

Hi blue iris.

I am very sceptical of asking others to help interpret hexagrams that we are given. As you have seen in the responces you've already had, some interpret the words and images given in hexagrams differently to others.Bearing in mind also that the words and images can vary from one I Ching translation to another you can end up being more confused than ever!

In my view if you are really concerned ask someone else to do you a reading for your question.
best wishes
jack

Hello,

thanks for your thoughts!
Well, yes, I know there are different views on Yi Jing...but still, I hope that maybe people can add some experience or maybe help put the message in a context; I am not very experienced with Yi Jing, so this is also a way to learn and get to know how it works

 

[blue iris]

Hi blue iris
I have copied some advice from "this site".
This is a literal cut and paste about the I Ching which I hope may help you:

It won't tell you what to do
The danger with any form of divination is that the user starts to consult it for every decision, or tries to get it to take the responsibility of decision away from them. The I Ching gives that responsibility straight back! 'If you have no place to go,' it might say, 'it's fortunate to come back. If you have a direction to go, it's fortunate to set out at daybreak.' Or 'the first consultation is informative; the second and third create confusion.' In its kindly but decidedly blunt way, the I Ching cares for the people who use it.
And so one thing you will not find in the I Ching is an ideology or set of fixed rules for behaviour. Its answers are far too personal and specific for that. They show you exactly what kind of situation your question refers to: what its essence is, what is expressed in it, how the energy moves through it. Some courses of action would accord better with the nature of the moment, and hence be more successful, than others.
It won't predict a pre-ordained future
The I Ching reveals the truth about the present. It does not predict an inevitable future that you can only await helplessly, for the very good reason that no such thing exists! We are free individuals, so neither the I Ching nor any power on earth can predict what we'll decide before we decide it. The assumption behind using the I Ching is that your choices have the power to make a real difference in your own life and other people's.
It will help you meet that future well-prepared
What the I Ching does do - and this is an enormous help - is to tell you what challenges and opportunities you are likely to face if you take a particular path, and how you can negotiate the obstacles you meet. This is the opposite of 'fortune telling'. Being told what will happen, as if your own choices had nothing to do with the outcome, is deeply disempowering. The I Ching tells you what effects their choices will have, and helps you to develop strategies to achieve your goals.

Interesing text, I sure agree!
But don't worry, I am quite familiar with this. I have had a lot of experience with divination and I know it can not really predict things - at least not in far future - and that it all depends on us.

I am not so familiar with Yi Jing, but I have tons of experience with tarot mostly and I know how these things work. I am aware that we cannot truly predict the future - but on the other hand, in some ways it can be done, have plenty of experience with it. It can give you a hint - but of course, energies can change.

Really, I am quite experienced in this, although I am new to Yi Jing.

 

[blue iris]

Blue Iris,

Just read you the other post, and learnt that this is really about a house.

In this case, the Hexs tell pretty clearly: Now it's a bit tough for you, but things will go a little better into the next month, and things will turn around in early-mid Aug. By Sept, you will be mostly winning the case.

Thank you very much, it is about the house, well, also money in some way (it is a very complicated situation, really)...September makes sense, yes, that is about time to hear from the court again.

And also time where they can again start taking my house...they gave me a few months extra, so this time ends in September, that's why I am worried.

So, I hope I hear from the court before that...

Thank you again!

 

[blue iris]

No matter how many times one probes that the najia method of interpretation is a valid and old way to study the Yijing, (and even Hilary said it is a valid method to use in this forum), there is always someone who attemps to descredit it, when it is used in this forum. It is kindda dogmatic thing against it.

Blue Iris
I would add to Carl's interpretation, that you may find the oportunity to solve the trial by agreement, but that posibility would need to spend some amount of money in order to keep the house.

I would suggest to anticipate this posibility, so you could use the oportunity if it comes to you.

Best wishes

Thank you jesed, yes, makes sense...we will see what comes up...

 

[blue iris]

I am surprised by these interpretations. The top line of 56 clearly indicates the person will lose their home.

But that doesn't mean that is what will happen, since a third party can never be sure that a hexagram has been cast or recorded properly. But if you're asking what 56.6 means, it means you'll lose your home.

Really? That's terrible...

 

[jesed]

Hi Twilight

I am surprised by these interpretations. The top line of 56 clearly indicates the person will lose their home.

There is no reason to be surprised

1.- Neither Carl nor I interpreted the answers with the tex-based method. So there is no suprise that we don't use what the text of any line says

2.- Neither Carl nor I interpreted the "56>35" answer, because Blue Iris couldn't give the time whe it was casted. So, there is no surprise that we don't take in account the interpretation of hex 56

3.- But even if I should interpret hex 56>35 with the text-based method, I would arrive at the same advice:

There would be an oportunity to solve the trial ("avoid prolonged legal process", Brad's translation of the Image of hex 56) by agreement (progress by cooperation.. overall image of hex 35) but that posibility would need to spend some amount of money in order to keep the house (the noble uses his horses to gain the favour of the court, as described in the judgment of hex 35)
I would suggest to anticipate this posibility, so you could use the oportunity if it comes to you (the key element to decide if the consultant ends in hex 56 ==> homeless or in 35 ==> progressing by cooperation is described in lines 1 and 6 of 56...don't be negligent,anticipate the way you would seize the oportunities, don't overlook details... negligence is the root of misfortune in both lines, so neglicence is what makes the wonderer lose it's home. It is not a prediction of a future fact, but a warning or advice)

Best

 

[jesed]

56.1.6 -> 35 is invalid because those changes don't result in hexagram 35.

Oh, you are right in this

 

[jesed]

But then, if the answer was 51>35.. would you still find surprising the posibility of solving the trial in his favor?

 

[maremaria]

Hi Jesed,

Could you explain your system ? or if you have done it in the past could you point me the thread ?

Thanks,
maria

 

[blue iris]

But actually you didn't get 56.1.6 -> 35 did you?

I assume you got 51.1.6 -> 35, as your title originally suggested but your post stated incorrectly.

As I implied above, interpreting for others on a forum is often pointless, because people can make mistakes both in their casting and in their subsequent reporting of it. All we can talk about is what a line means, and yes 56.6 means you will lose your home, but as you didn't get 56.6 it doesn't matter does it?

OMG, you are right! It was 51.1.6.! I am so sorry, guys...

So, 51.6 - this tells about some shock...but maybe it is a warning that I need to stay calm? It doesn't say that I will loose my home?

I really apologize for my mistake.

 

[wbh4305]

The following two hexagrams (with the exact casting time) are the ones that my readings based upon.

In fact, there are many ways to help other people read their hexagrams. If someone don't believe it and can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done by others.

Best,

Carl

Hello, thanks for offering help!

I posted reply, but it didn't go trhough, so I am posting again.

I cast the coins today, that is 25 of June, at 11.11 AM. I asked how the situation in the court will evolve.

I got 1.1.->44

I don't like 44, it shows danger; 1.1 shows clearly that I need to wait.
So for now, nothing happening.

Then I asked: will I win in the court?

I got 2.1->24

I guess now there is nothing I can do, but eventually, things will become better.

How do you see this? Thank you.

 

[wbh4305]

As a matter of fact, a hexagram can be generated in many ways, casting coins is only one of them (and it's a simplified, but not the orignal way). Even you can use the time of the posting to generate a time-based hexagram, and it also carries the information of the person asking questions.

This may sound very incredible, but it's been proven to be a valid method.
But, if you only had experience with holograms (some of us may have shot hologram pictures in college lab, at least I did it once) -- a broken piece of a hologram picture carries the complete information of the picture... If you look from a different angle with the use of maybe the lazer lights, you still can see the complete hologram picture from every single broken piece of the picture. The hexagram is like a condensed piece of a hologram picture, of a person. It may contain much information of us, but you may find out with a proper method.

 

[blue iris]

Hello,

I am sorry for late reply!
I just wanted to thank you once again for your reading and additionnal thoughts.

Best wishes.

 

[gene]

I'll go on record as saying, "I KNOW" the I Ching is a divine force. There is no question about it. I do not mean to be argumentative here, and am not trying to instill conflict, but if one undertakes a study of the I Ching, one had better be ready to meet his true self, which is one with the universe. This is much too deep to have been developed by ancient men. The depths and the riches are unbelievable. I hope people will understand and realize that no matter how deeply they have gone, there are still deeper levels.

Gene

 

[gene]

One thing I think is being developed in this reading is the need to accept whatever fate has in store for you, and recognize that the universe is not hostile to your undertakings. Accept the judgment willingly without critic or judgment. You will find that the storm will pass you by even if there are some rough spots during the process.

Gene