52.5.6 matrix review - bad outcome

[active8]

Hi:

I do a daily portent reading. I usually get lucky and though I have no idea what's going to happen, I can look back and "best fit" the day to the reading. I'll see where something warned about came up and how I dealt with it. Nothing special usually because I have to deal with customers and can't have complaint calls. I wish I could see far enough ahead to just change the whole situation so there's nothing to diffuse in the first place. Sometimes my day will turn up a good fortune bonus that I can find looking back at the reading. I'm trying to learn to know more before it happens, or see it as it's happening in time to bail as opposed to lucking out or just being me. Maybe this is my first advanced lesson (or the first one I recognize as such.)

The daily portent... this was one of those days i skipped so I did one for the evening at about 8PM.

52.5.6 > 39 and friends

Don't ask me how I blew it, but I was pretty wound up when I called my friend. Possibly the only one I can talk to about anything. We used to talk every night. She sometimes lets things distract her. That night, it was traffic. She couldn't hear. Put me on speaker which made it worse. I was tring to tell her something she'd enjoy and realized she wasn't trying to listen and wasn't trying to stop me. I could've called back. I got a bit ticked about that, but never attacked her person. "So why don't you just tell me you can't hear and i can save my breath for later?" 5 min later - text message. "Don't call me." She wants email only.

Here's what I see in 52.5.6 -- 6 is the governing line and as i understand it, that's what I should take. Not a big clue, but it would be sufficient, if I could see it coming. 52.5 > 15 or 52.6 > 53, but maybe that's not as accurate as 52.5.6 > 39 in this situation. Furthermore the 5th line really screams out. I'm looking at 4 translations and the one I used that night really fine tunes the advice - Brennan says: "By keeping your own council just now you will be able to speak more rationally and effectively later. You will not regret this approach." I guess from now on I'll add, "But you will/might regret *not* taking that approach," eh? Huh?

Why couldn't the Oracle tell me I'd lose a friend if I ... whatever. Any thoughts on that, anyone?

Here's why I think it's an advanced lesson for me. My take was that the reason for taking the topmost of a 2 line change (if one subscribes to that method; And IIRC one person uses the topmost for 3 and maybe 4 lines) is that the energy works it's way up through the hex leaving an impression(?) on the lines. Something like that. In this case, the lower change line which is not a governing line is pretty loud. IMO. The good fortune promised by doing line 6 (the more spiriually oriented line) doesn't say it all even though it's the governing line.

So it looks like those "take the topmost moving line" kinda rules aren't so great. One method is to take the lower one.

If a governing or constituent line was not the uppermost moving line, wouldn't the uppermost one still come into play? or does the energy stop at the governer like it was a black hole?

I'd really appreciate some dialog on this reading. Please understand that when I use words like "maybe" it means that 'm not sure or am unclear, so feel free to jump in. I'd like to continue on with the rest of the matrix later if you all will please bear with me. After 2 years I think I'm on the threshold of being able to make the Yi really work for me. Action vs reaction.

Thanks in advance.
Mike

 

[hilary]

Hi Mike,

I know what you mean about the benefits of looking back and discovering how it fits - and also how it's nice to be able to understand the warning, in full, before the event. Just now I'm going through a 'Yes, thanks to the reading I knew it would be like this - but if only I'd realised it would be this much like this!' It would be just fine to learn through foresight as well as hindsight.

Are you thinking of your readings as 'daily portent' or 'daily advice', or something between the two? As this one reads like advice. Keep Still when you find yourself amidst Difficulties. The atmosphere of your phone call reminds me of 39 - the 'uphill struggle' feeling. I think the ideal way for a daily reading to work would be through this kind of recognition, and having that flip a mental switch for you and bring the whole reading to mind. This would remind you to Keep Still more, react less, and of course keep your jaws still, let your words have order, and find another level of great-heartedness from somewhere. (Heh - easy to interpret, not so easy in the moment...)

When I say 'whole reading' I mean both lines together. I've never felt the need to adopt a method that 'simplifies' the reading by missing chunks of it out. As for ruling/ governing lines, they rarely make a great difference to interpretation for me. They may represent the point of greatest strength/influence in the hexagram, and that can be interesting, but this doesn't make the rest any less relevant.

By the way, 'email, don't call' doesn't sound like the end of anything to me - more an attempt to lower the intensity a bit. Just my impression, for whatever it's worth.

 

[active8]

Hi Mike,

Hi
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Are you thinking of your readings as 'daily portent' or 'daily advice', or something

Mike: Both. Maybe that's a problem. I write it out as "portent" - what good or bad things might happen. But I've been under the assumption that I'd also be getting advice on how to make it happen or not happen. I vis my self kinda hands in the air at dawn as if I'm asking "what's up, for the day? What/how do I do/act?" You think the oracle is being forced to cram too much info into one reading, thereby clouding the interpretation?

After two years of that, a simple simplification might render me pretty adept at reading the entrails Oh... the shells were empty, right? They wouldn't waste auspicious turtles.

between the two? As this one reads like advice. Keep Still when you find yourself amidst Difficulties. The atmosphere of your phone call reminds me of 39 - the 'uphill struggle'

Mike: And 39 was going to be my next question (later) Your last paragraph brought me back up here to kinda set the stage for my last response and noticed the 39 "uphill struggle" is the 39 in my reading - more accurately called "Obstruction" in this case. The gal has the worst case of ADD of anyone I've known.

feeling. I think the ideal way for a daily reading to work would be through this kind of recognition, and having that flip a mental switch for you and bring the whole reading to

Mike: Here I've been thinking that 7ways.pdf would help and you just gave me the visualization for a trigger.

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When I say 'whole reading' I mean both lines together. I've never felt the need to adopt a method that 'simplifies' the reading by missing chunks of it out. As for ruling/ governing

Mike: Makes sense. Seems I've heard that before.

lines, they rarely make a great difference to interpretation for me. They may represent the point of greatest strength/influence in the hexagram, and that can be interesting, but this doesn't make the rest any less relevant.

Mike: *Now* what Brennan says makes sense. I was looking at the definition of governing and constituent lines. Before all that, he says they represent the *esscence* of the hexagram.

By the way, 'email, don't call' doesn't sound like the end of anything to me - more an attempt to lower the intensity a bit. Just my impression, for whatever it's worth.

Mike: Oh yeah. Less frustrating for us. I like the voice commo. I Ching next day said to deal gently with rough diamonds.

Now according to this site or Great Vessel, the relating Hexagram can either be the outcome or the situation, depending on the question. This is obviously the *situation* (i.e., 39) but I'm unclear on how best to figure out how to decipher that *before* the sky falls.

Hey thanks for helping out.

Mike