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54.1.2>16 how do I balance my body to birth a healthy baby?

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Hello everyone.

Thank you for being here and offering your support. Those who come here to seek help with reading I sure hope so you find one.
I am here to see if someone could help to interpret my reading.

My husband and I have been struggling to become parents for some time now. We had a pregnancy which ended in late term termination due to baby's birth defect a little over a year ago. We struggled with emotions, mental health for the past year. However, we decided to try again. This time we decided to go straight to reproductive specialists. They did their share of testing and officially diagnosed us with unexplained infertility. They explained that trying IUIs will be a good start on our assisted journey. so we began. We tried once and there was a new discovery about my thyroid. I turned out to have a subclinical hyperthyrodism which (I was assured) doesn't influence our chances to conceive. We did one round of UIU and it was unsuccessful. We took a break for a cycle and now we are back to it again. And again there is a new discovery, my estrogen is elevated. They said it is up to me if I want to do IUI or not this cycle. However, this doesn't sit right with me. I am still see a doctor again tomorrow and go into all details of what is going on with my estrogen, if there are any other problems and, generally, to discuss the possibilities of being a mom (mind you adoption and surrogacy is off the table). But I am generally starting to have this feeling that my body is done (I am 40 years old) - "No babies for you, guys. Too late to start thinking about the family. C'mon close the shop already and get a pet." I can't draw any more strength to carry one and ready to give up.

I have been asking various questions on why I am not getting pregnant, what I should do. So in light of this new discovery about estrogen I asked

Why is it elevated? 2.5>8
Line five looks auspicious. So it is a good thing that it is elevated. I'm confused.

Then I asked
How do I balance my body to birth a healthy baby? 54 1.2
54 scares me to death. I feel like this is the confirmation of my fears that the body is done. I am in inferior position and limping, and one eyed. 16 in my opinion indicated that I should just embrace the situation (being childless) and make the most out of it?

What do you guys think? I am very much surprised that my body started the closing ceremony this early. I though that I still had a chance.

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VIkk
 
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I am not at all familar with using the Yi for medical purposes. But for the reading in general:

Perhaps that despite setbacks you should continue, but not so aggressively. Also - and this may be obvious, and that's why it's being mentioned - that whatever you do should be up to the task of accomplishing your goals; including paying attention to small things (that if ignored add up to bigger things): diet, sleep, exercise, your emotional well being .... And finally, do not go this alone, but instead seek the help of others, even if it's just for friendship and support.

Best, D.
 

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And also, to add - not suitable to get scared with "auspiciousness" of changing lines! - Why estrogen ist elevated - well, hard to tell with medical diagnosis. However, 2.5|8 seems to be an image of "estrogen elevated", as it is an image of female power, attractivity, what estrogen is. You are fertile.

With 54, there is no reason to be scared to death. Why? Marrying maiden. What's wrong with that? With this reading, you might - enjoy sexual attraction. Maybe it would be a good idea actually to have sex - it can help when you want to become pregnant! Your self-estime is all too low, which is said in 54.1., which is a pity, and you might also spend time with yourself - not to get all too obsessed.

With 54 and 16 as a related - 16 is enthusiasm, music. Maybe it would be a good idea - to dance.
 

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Thank you Freedda and mandarin_23. Your input is very helpful.
I was thinking more about readings.
And I also think maybe 2.5 points out that my levels are actually fine and I just need to get it together emotionally (8).
And 54 shows my state right now - very insecure. But then it doesn’t really answer the question of what I should do.
 
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And I also think maybe 2.5 points out that my levels are actually fine and I just need to get it together emotionally (8).
That might well be true, but I think one should approach the Yi for medical diagnosis with a large grain of salt - unless you really know how it works, which I don't.

Best, D.
 
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How do I balance my body to birth a healthy baby? 54.1.2 > 16
This reading speaks of lots of passiveness and illusion/delusion. The lines describe a situation where a woman is a mistress (or anyway placed in an inferior position), and she knows that despite not having evidence. She decides to turn a blind eye (16). Are you absolutely certain that your husband doesn't have a fertility problem? Are you absolutely certain that your husband is not sleeping around? I don't see anything you can actually do, with this reading, to balance your body. The only advice I can see is not be too passive, and also not be under any illusion/delusion.
 

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Hi Diamanda, good to hear from you. Thank you for your advice!

My husband went through all the testing required by fertility center and his results are normal. Both if our results were fine and we were diagnosed with unexplained infertility.
Is he sleeping around? I don’t think so. There is really no signs. But nothing is guaranteed in this life.

As for being in inferior position, you are absolutely right, I’m in one. I feel inferior since all of my friends have babies, and trying to have another one whilst I’m having trouble to have my first one. And it is is true, there is a certain level of delusion in this situation. I’m daydreaming everyday about having a family. Maybe I just need to stop and realize that it is not going to happen. Even though I have changed my life style to a healthy one. Taking all the supplements and now working with fertility doctor.
 
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Ah now that you write about feeling inferior to your friends, it all makes much more sense! This feeling inferior is an illusion. You are not inferior in any way. I've heard so many stories (as I'm sure you have too) where, when the couple stops trying for a baby, when they give themselves a holiday from trying... they get pregnant. The answer says nothing about 'stop and it won't happen'. I hope it means here that being inferior is an illusion, as in, there's nothing wrong with you. Nothing you need to 'do'.

At the end of the day, having a baby does not make us superior to other human beings. I don't have children. Does this make me a lower class citizen? Of course not. And you're still young, and you have a husband. Maybe take a 'holiday' from this constant stress? Also, why is adoption out of the question?
 

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Hello Vikk!

54 is about being in a less-than-ideal situation.
54.1 says the life continues despite the current problems. "Liu: Undertaking is good fortune"- do whatever you know to improve your health. 54.2 invites you to be like a hermit- maybe don't try for baby for a while?
Among other names, 16 is called "Harmonious Joy, Repose". Reduce your stress level, do something to boost your mood.

Good luck!
 

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Hi guys!
Thank you!
It was like a wake up call, Diamanda, what you said about person’s worth if they have children or not. I am NOT a second class citizen if I don’t have children. I profess that. However, I need to convince my husband since he thinks that what he is indeed.

As for reducing my stress level, Marybluesky, I think I’ll finally go to that acupuncture place.

P.S. I went to a doctor. She wasn’t alarmed with anything. She said my estrogen was high because I had follicles growing already. So it was normal that it was that high.

Thank you for your support! XOXO
 

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If I understand it correctly you lost a child two years ago before he was born, couldn't conceive with your husband again but wanted a family so much; you had 54 both about your relationship and about getting pregnant, in the meantime you hate all your friends with children and want to keep a distance from them as they remind you what you couldn't have.
Now because of your loss two years ago you as a couple didn't make it, so you will be going separate ways.
You also said that there was nothing in particular that attracted you in your husband, you just wanted a family.

To me it looks like two people getting together for no real reason. I think you can call yourself lucky for not conceiving with someone you have not so much in common with. Many people believe that a child will fix things but no, a child will usually make things worse, and you don't want to be stuck with a man who put you into a 54 position. You can start a new life and find someone whom you really like, and with whom you are compatible with.
You say it's unexplained infertility but most of the times it's just that the two are not compatible. Maybe you won't have all these conceiving problems with another man! Have you asked Yi about leaving him? Or about how much fertile you are right now?
 

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Hi Olga,
You summed it up almost right. I just don’t want to go into all the details to tweak the chronology of the situation. Just don’t feel comfortable doing it here I n this forum out of fear of monopolizing it.

The only thing the question about my marriage and how to make it better was from 5 years ago as you pointed it out. Our infertility issues started later, 2 years after that and lasted up until now.

As for am I still fertile, I don’t think so. I’m 41. We tried three IUIs - they didn’t work. And when I asked about IVF, oracle answered again with 54 line 1, if I remember correctly. I remember thinking about that answer and concluding that if I go through IVF I would have a child, but it will be unhealthy like it was in the previous pregnancy. So having a baby is out if the question. It is not going to happen. I just need to accept it and learn how to live with it.

So I have had some 54 regarding different life events for the past 5 years.

I made a mistake of asking about leaving him several times, I think too many times. The very last one was from yesterday What awaits me when I leave him? 63 unchanging. What our future as a couple? 34 2.4>36. I still need to think about this hexagrams.
 
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You may still perfectly be fertile even if artificial insemination didn't work! The two are not related at all. For many women artificial insemination doesn't work. Apart from the fact that they take several eggs out of you which reduces your fertility. But ONE egg is enough, so as long as you have one, you can still conceive.

Sorry I couldn't help myself going to look for your old threads. You asked twice about your last pregnancy and everyone told you to wait, that the ultrasound might be wrong, that you may be seeing hateful people but still to delay executions and to let the horse develop and go its own way. You decided against that but never really explained what brought you to that. Are you sure it was not the doctors that pushed you do it? or your husband in fear of having a not perfect child? Because even Rosada who is quite an experienced reader advised you to wait.
You yourself said something about insurance, a lot of doctors not accepting your insurance.. I now read that the high number of covid cases in the US may be linked to insurance refunds (so probably altering tests). Maybe it was something similar?

This is just to say that maybe you are not infertile at all. Maybe it would have come out alright, maybe it will again in the future, with another man or with the same one.

63 un makes me think you have already decided what to do.
34>36 has two good lines but that 36 in the back.
I think it depends whether you love your husband or not.
 

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It is funny how this topic surfaced in my life (thank you Olga lol) at the same time as I was going through this turmoil with the baby 2 years ago. Happy anniversary! Lol yeah August 2018 was tough. And no, doctors didn’t push me into anything, my husband didn’t push me into anything. It was our collective decision to terminate the pregnancy. I went to 4 different fetal specialists who were assisted by ultrasound technicians, I had MRI done. So after at least 10 people looked at me, we (my husband and I) decided to make a decision of termination. That was THE decision I made at THAT time with the best information possible at that time. It was definitely not the case of What if’s, should have, could have, etc. Hardest thing I ever done in my life. All I can do is try to go on and move on.
It is strange, but talking about it makes me feel strong for some reason. You are probably God sent, Olga. :) thank you!
 

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That was THE decision I made at THAT time with the best information possible at that time. It was definitely not the case of What if’s, should have, could have, etc.
Maybe I didn't make myself clear. I was trying to see what hateful people you might have seen since that's what the line said, not to question your choice. I don't have any problem with abortion. Only, both casts were not against it so I was wondering why you didn't follow Yi's suggestions, that's all. If maybe you had other subsequent casts, I don't know. I understand it's a delicate matter, more personal than my questions about windows fitted and so on but I was just trying to help. All those 54s make me think you come second to something, that's where I would investigate. Take care.
 

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