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58.2.4>3 and 3.1>8 Crush

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Well, it's official:). I have a crush:blush:. Anyway, I have trouble seeing this ever materializing into anything real, but have my head in the clouds over it nonetheless. So, I don't mind being distracted by the occasional daydream if it is a prelude to a real romance, but if I'm just deluding myself, well, no thanks. Rather keep my feet on the ground. I don't want to be disappointed when my fantasy boyfriend rejects me in reality:p. So, I asked the Yi about it, and was expecting the Yi to tell me to forget it...

"What should I do about my feelings for X?" and I got 58.2.4>3

Also, asked the same question the other day and got 3.1>8

Basically, what I am looking for here is should I just completely let this idea go, as it has no basis in reality, or X would really be a crappy partner, although they seem quite great on the surface. Or, keep it in the back of my mind. Maybe something could develop somewhere down the line:). I know the timing is not good to start something up here, and the Yi seems to reflect that for sure. But, I don't see the swift kick in the butt I was expecting:confused:. If anyone can find it, Trojan will:p. Where are you Trojan, with your no nonsense interpretations:D?

I'm reading 58.2.4>3 as

Line 2 - develop more trust in this person
Line 4 - stay open to other potentials too
and hex 3 implies it is early to tell, but seems like could be something to build somewhere down the line.

3.1>8 seems pretty clear. It implies I should persevere, and see where things go.

I feel like I must be missing something here:confused:. Please, anyone who has any input here, would you please share your thoughts and shed some light on this for me. I know there is a dark cloud in here, but all I see is the silver lining...

Thanks:)
:bows:DWF:bows:
 
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I think you've pretty much nailed it and the dark cloud could be related to line 4. That is the negative aspect of the answer and could be where the dark cloud is coming from. Karcher's commentary on this line is "There is still conflict and dissension over the terms of this connection. Do not let yourself get carried into negative emotions. The sooner you can clear this up, the better. Then you will have cause to rejoice". I feel like since it is hex 58, clearing things up would be from commuunicating something to x. Perhaps a question to x about the dark cloud. Could just be a dark cloud that never rains down and just passes by and then there is sunshine. Could be a fleeting crush that once you understand the cloud would not be so hung up on anymore. Either way I wish you luck.
 
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Thank you AQ:), that is a very good point. How perceptive of you! Unfortunately communication with X is not possible on this point right now. So, we will have to clear this up via the I Ching:). Your post got me thinking though, if maybe the Yi is saying I should not contemplate the terms of the connecton so much at this time. But, there does seem to be an inner connection here. I'm not sure if it necessarily the makings for a great romance, but there is definitely something there.
 
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yeah, maybe the cloud is a warning to not act right now. I'd say cherish the good parts of the connection since you feel something good in there. Spring is in the air so there will be lots of clouds rolling by with possible rain. Yi is like our meteorologist. :) :D
 
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Thanks AQ:), I like the meteorologist comparison. That's a great way to look at it. So, you don't see the Yi saying give up on this? I feel like I have a better perspective here, but still not sure what I should actually do here. Clear up negative feelings? Which negative feelings? I'm confused... Does this mean I should stop expecting the worst, or does this mean I should stop considering this?
 

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X sounds way more fun and maybe better for ego than all work and no play of building awesome new life, but, imo, reading sounds kind of reboundy...u deserve the best dwf...
 
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Thanks AQ:), I like the meteorologist comparison. That's a great way to look at it. So, you don't see the Yi saying give up on this? I feel like I have a better perspective here, but still not sure what I should actually do here. Clear up negative feelings? Which negative feelings? I'm confused... Does this mean I should stop expecting the worst, or does this mean I should stop considering this?

Do you think there are too many negative feelings going on for the beginning of a new relationship? I really don't want to tell you either way, but just from the sounds of things, it is too heavy with past residue. I keep leaning towards this being a bad idea for you to pursue, basing this more on the side comment regarding negative feelings than the reading.

But looking at the readings, hexagram 3 came up both times, just in opposite positions. I am thinking it is important (not that there would really be an unimportant part :)). Maybe try and figure out what that means in relation to all of the lines you've received.

"What should I do about my feelings for X?"

First: 3.1 > 8
I see 8 as where you were coming from when you first asked. Seeking Union. 3.1 - The advice is to look at the past and get people around you to help. Also, adding that it is not a good idea to move forward. I think you did reach for help, you are a social creature and I am sure that you have asked for help from people around you, or at least, we know that you have ask here on Clarity :hugs:.

So this whole first reading is, as a whole, saying to me, in regards to your feelings, you should contemplate what you know about this "past" issue. How is that making you feel? Do you know what Yijing is referring to with pointing to 'the past'? I feel like you do.

Second: 58.2.4 > 3
Speaking of the 'past'.... I think that the moment of the first reading is gone. The advice can only be looked at as a glimpse or snippet of what was to be done then IMO. Yet, I feel like it can richen the second reading and help a lot still. Also, I think it makes perfect sense to ask another question and ask for help with it. But the first reading seems null and void because of the ever changing nature of the universe.

At first glance, because the 3 is the secondary hexagram, this says that you might be making small strides to materialize the relationship already. I say small because it could only be in your mind or an idea, or maybe some small communications in regards to this. Either way, I think it seems like 3 is where you are coming from, and that is naturally difficult. :hug: 58.2.4 - The advice is to look at the communication of your feelings. Line 2 is about expressing them properly and not candy coating your feelings. So, not to express things falsely to X, but also just not to "lie to yourself" through inner dialog. Pretty much to look at things realistically. Line 4, I like what Karcher says- "Face things squarely. Correcting this situation is definitely the right thing to do". To me, this would be a sign to look at things realistically and talk about them. Get this "past" issue out into the open and talk about it with X. If you feel like you can't talk about it, then the relationship is not worth it anyways. Another thing, I like what Wikiwing says in regards to the communication- "The communication and joy is present, but you bargain and negotiate over its terms - perhaps trying to get every detail secure before committing to the exchange? This is driven by anxiety - it needs to be hemmed in, brought under control".

I know, it's just a crush, but DWF :hug:, this whole situation just doesn't seem right. Is the relationship ready to be manifested? Seems like there is some kind of past issue that you are aware of, that is causing you to have negative feelings instead of positive ones that you should be having! It doesn't say anywhere in the reading to give it time and wait. I think that you will find that once you look realistically at the past, you will not want to wait. Either way, great things are ahead for you!

I like what Iams girl said too. I agree.
 
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Thanks you, Iams Girl:). It does sound kind of reboundy, doesn't it. Well, I know someone better to have a rebound with:p. I was thinking of this person as a potential keeper. As of now we are just friends, and they do not know I have a thing for them. AQ, Thank you so much for your insights:). The truth is I'm not sure what this "past issue" is, but my gut feeling is there is something to this idea, that there is something that needs to be cleared up. This has been hinted at in other readings, too. Well, will probably come to me if I just ponder it a bit. And, yes, I agree, the 3.1>8 reading does seem null and void at this point. Will post again later, but am running late for work, as usual:eek:... :bows:
 

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