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My brother mentioned he will get his PhD, but he is only in his maiden undergrad year. I asked the Oracle, if he will eventually do a doctorate, because he does not seem the studious sort. Wanted to know if he had the aptitude and attitude necessary.

58,2,5,6>21
What do you think? 58.2 looks favorable, but the rest?

Another friend of mine also expressed an interest to pursue her doctorate. She is also nervous about it. I asked the oracle, if she will do her doctorate, and got 20.1.4.5.6, to 51.
If she applies, does she have a chance at a good program? 59,2,3,4 to 33.

What do they mean?

Thank you for your help in interpreting.
 
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I asked the Oracle, if he will eventually do a doctorate, wanted to know if he had the aptitude and attitude necessary? 58,2,5,6>21

Your answer suggests that your brother may have the aptitude but certainly not the attitude to do a Ph.D, so chances of him even getting that far are very slim.

I asked the oracle, if she will do her doctorate, and got 20.1.4.5.6, to 51.

She will have a chance but I think she needs to start being serious in her attitude starting now.

If she applies, does she have a chance at a good program? 59,2,3,4 to 33.

She would be wise to take what is on offer, I don't think she will be in a good position to be picky.
 

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agree with Willowfox just wanted to add titbits :)

58/21 seems to say that he enjoys the idea of a phd but has to figure out what it is that he likes in it and also to cut back on false ideas abt it . . I once asked a similar question abt a phd and got 58.1: for me it meant that if I can find joy in solitary work I can go forth with it . . friends doing a phd have often warned me abt it being a process that often leaves one feeling stranded and isolated because it can be so intense

nothing more to add here, only I wanted to take the chance -if Mephistopheles doesn't mind me intervening here- and ask Willowfox or anyone else who wishes to comment, how do they read 33 in the last answer (59.2,3,4/33)?
Mephistopheles, you know the context better, did your friend retreat waiting for the roads to open or does this read differently?
 

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Thank you Willowfox, that sounds accurate with the situation.

Rodaki, thank you for your input. Yes she retreated and is still unsure of being accepted. The applications have not opened and she is preparing for it.
 

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and ask Willowfox or anyone else who wishes to comment, how do they read 33 in the last answer (59.2,3,4/33)?
I see hex 33 in this context as she won't have a chance to get a good program or one of the better ones, so she will have to retreat in her expectations and chose something else. That is why I said she will not be in a good position to be picky, that she will have to take whatever is available and count herself lucky as the competition for a place will be fierce.
 

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Yes, it is anticipated, willowfox, that competition will be fierce.. We asked for advice regarding the applications.
It said 38.3.5.6>43..
The lines look hard, but does it assure a success somehow or other?
 

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Your answer seems to indicate that she will initially have quite a few problems and misunderstandings with her application, so she will need to be very persevering to see this through but it indicates that the difficulties can be overcome by sheer determination and a good result can be achieved.
 

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Thank you for your answer, willowfox. my friend wanted to know if there was anymore advice that Yi can give, regarding her applications. It said 8.4 to 45.

It seems to indicate alot of support needed, is it correct?

She asked
(1)What are my chances of getting into Uni M. ? 17.6 >25
(2)What are my chances for a doctoral program? 12.1.2>10
(3) What are my chances for a program in country X? 57.1.2>37

it seems like most hexs talk about perseverance and support. thank you if anyone can assist.
 
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my friend wanted to know if there was anymore advice that Yi can give, regarding her applications. 8.4 to 45.

It advises her to show interest, enthusiasm, persevere and not give up or deviate from her plan and to be prepared for every eventuality.

What are my chances of getting into Uni M. ? 17.6 >25

Yes, I like this one, a follower finds a teacher. Looks like this Uni. will give you a good education.

What are my chances for a doctoral program? 12.1.2>10

Not very high at all.

What are my chances for a program in country X? 57.1.2>37

Basically this can be done but it all depends upon you, so, if you are unsure or dubious then it ain't going to happen but if you really want this to happen, then you got to fight for it and lastly, watch out for people who may try to prevent you going.
 

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Thank you willowfox, those answers were really helpful.


My friend is quite apprehensive (alot to think about), so she asked the Yi again, is she going on the right path wanting to apply to a doctorate? It said hex 5 unchanging.

We took it to interpret that she needs to wait patiently and it is a right path. do you think?
 

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This suggests yes, so tell her to keep on going as its worth the effort in the end.
 

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