62.3.being 16

[dragona]

Greetings,
what would getting 62.3.>16 read for you if you have gotten it as an advice about selling property?
I tend not to take online casting as seriously as coins gained ones, but this can`t be good...
Soon will probably have to make a decision that does not go to my favor, as I have to sell and divide money gained and probably will not have enough for a decent place of my own (renting would only eat up money and is not favorable so this is a big problem, especially cos I have no income and I am being forced to sell-in case you wondered).
If anyone remembers some practical outcome of this cast, prey tell. :bows:

 

[Liselle]

Hi Dragona,

I've wondered from time to time what has happened with you. It sounds like nothing good, unfortunately.

Here is Hilary's translation and commentary for 62.3, from her book:

‘Not going past, he defends himself.
Someone following may strike him down.
Pitfall.’

Instead of moving on, you dig in and defend your chosen position. Perhaps it seems as if, in staying with what you know, you are defending your vision; after all, you have no idea what you might encounter out in the wider world beyond your ramparts. So rather than completing the transition, you take your stand, and convince yourself you can make it work. But it’s most unlikely that you can repel reality when it encroaches on all sides; there will surely be something you don’t see that brings you down.​

This is still about your (blankety-blank) sister and selling the apartment you both inherited, isn't it? I remember this other thread about it.

Can your sister legally force you to sell the apartment? I mean that literally - can she literally, legally, force it to be sold against your will? I honestly don't know how that works, even in my own country, much less yours.

What I remember from the previous thread is that Yi seemed to be saying that selling the apartment was not a good idea, certainly not for you, but possibly not even for your sister. I thought 56.6 said that - that if "the nest" (the property you co-own) was burned now, the "travelling people" (people who don't own property) would laugh at first but weep later.

A year later, you're still in the middle of this .

I don't know for sure what Yi means in this new 62.3 > 16 reading. But my guess is that it is part of the same long, ongoing conversation about this apartment. I think it has to be considered in that context. And my guess is that, when it talks about "digging in" and so forth (from Hilary's commentary), it's referring to continuing to stick with the same notion of selling the apartment.

Since your question was about selling, I think it's saying do not do that.

Question: Something like "Sell apartment?" (You didn't write out the exact question you asked, but you said it was about selling. Just to be sure, would you tell us what your exact question was, in case that might make a difference?)

Answer: If you sell, "Someone following may strike him down. Pitfall." You do not want to do something which will result in pitfall and being struck down.

That's why I asked if your sister can legally force this to happen against your will.

 

[rosada]

Hmmm---I have an opposite interpretation. However, I am not familiar with the earlier casts so I don't know the background story. But anyway, I see 62.3 as saying if you resist selling you will ultimately be forced to. If there is indeed a sister "behind" this issue I see her as representing the one who may come up from behind and strike you down. However the fact the change line leads to hex 16. Enthusiasm may indicate being able to sell the apartment and going on to something good.

 

[Liselle]

Yes, Rosada, I could see it that way too, especially in isolation - and that might be what it actually means. I think the context is important with this one, it being part of a loooong saga, which is why I went back to the previous thread, which I thought was advising against selling (although there were different opinions there, too).

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?18286-unsettling-56-5-6-lt-31

Also, I hope Dragona tells us what her exact question was. All she said about the question was, "what would getting 62.3.>16 read for you if you have gotten it as an advice about selling property." She didn't say what angle her question was from, which is probably important since the answer is saying, "If you do ____, bad things will happen."

So, if you do what, exactly. If you sell...? If you resist selling...? "Selling" has two sides - sell, and not sell.

There are real-life issues, also - Dragona has repeatedly said that if she loses this apartment she will literally have nowhere to live. If that is still true, that's a really big problem.

That's why I asked if her sister could legally force this sale. I have no idea what the law is. Maybe one possibility is that if her sister can legally force the sale - make her actually take those steps. Don't make it one bit easier for her by giving in ahead of time. Would resisting and delaying actually make anything any worse than it is already?

I guess what I mean is that if - legally - resisting and delaying would not make anything any worse than voluntarily agreeing to sell, then resisting the sale is possibly not what Yi means by digging in and defending.

Does that make sense? I can't figure out how to explain it without using confusing double negatives...

 

[pocossin]

I agree with Rosada. The property must be sold so that the inheritance can be divided. As uncomfortable as it may be at the moment, probably you need to move (flying bird). Most of your problems would be solved if you had a paying job, which 16 suggests to me.

 

[dragona]

Sadly no time at the moment to answer at length.
It is my only option to agree to sale and resolve this burdening relationship. Only today I had a new problem with the place that needed to be resolved and got no help whatsoever from the other owner which not only I find unfair, to say mildly.I am to handle everything myself and to be judged afterwards.
At this point it is very tempting to do something not quite decent myself because I think I should stop being this honest about everything. Most likely YI was referring to this new situation as I find it usually does speak of the immediate future.
i asked an advice about selling in terms of the offer/to low/to high but I think I was warned about something. Loosing my patience is never a good sign.
Thank you for your help for now.

 

[Liselle]

It is my only option to agree to sale and resolve this burdening relationship.

Dragona, this has nothing to do with the reading, and I understand you want to get away from your sister. But you have nowhere else to live, or so you've said more than once.

If that is still true, please don't entertain thoughts that it will work out somehow, or anything like that. Don't just agree to this sale in haste, just because you're sick of fighting with your sister. You have nowhere else to live. Figure out that part first. You have to, right?

I realize there's a lot I don't know here. I only know what you've told us, and two things stick out to me from what you've told us. (1) You desperately want out from under your sister, which is understandable. (2) You have nowhere else to live.

Maybe you actually do have something figured out. I hope so. I suppose another possibility is that just because something is put up for sale doesn't mean it will sell immediately, so maybe that will get you some extra time. But I don't think you can count on that. It could sell immediately. Then what would you do?

As I said, maybe you have something figured out that we don't know about?

 

[dragona]

Thank you for your concern.
The bottom line is that with additional costs, taxes etc. looks like I will not be able to find anything really satisfactory for my lifestyle. The whole point of getting a place of your own is to be happy about it, but I was told just now I will simply have to make do as I asked will there be a possibility for smaller financial concession if I needed it. I like to think I deserve better and I do not want to own something I do not care for really because it is then a burden. Between us, I do not want to own ANYTHING.
(A studio would be nice tho. )

I did not cast that much about the issue, was not realizing you see it as a SAGA...these are casts I found,
if you would like to comment as outside observers..
Where will I go after selling? 45 UN I interpreted as the possession of money and I think I also got it as a GO AHEAD advice. (or getting it for asking that question uch: )
I also got 57.2,3,4>12 when was in a chrises.
also 10 UN I think about communication on the issue-makes sense.
62.3>16 cast as explained in H. book resonates with me quite a bit-I try not to budge from my initial idea of making satisfactory sale but there is so much uncertain issues I cannot control. Hex 16 was explained as an elephant in the room type of thing, and yes, it is taken over all my life so .... Too big a bite for me to handle under the circumstances, and to think I was looking forward to this a few years back.