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64 card consultation method.. good method or not?

andrewrizzorr

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Hey guys and gals,

I've been searching online for this particular method I've been using and I cant seem to find anything on it.. so I figured I'd join a forum and ask if this seems like a good method..

I got this method off of: I Ching Book and Card pack by Richard Craze

Method: Take 64 cards and divide them into two piles, Take the larger pile and disperse 13 cards at a time until you're left with <13 left; if 13 is left, start again.

Cards Left:

1-3 = -- --
4-6 = -----
7-9 = -- --
10-12 = -----

I would do this six times, get my hexagram and then look it up in Wilhem/Baynes version of I Ching


So what do ya think.. good, bad, somewhere in the middle?
 
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svenrus

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".....Take the larger pile and...."

Counting them to see which is the largest ? I mean: if they are closely even You'll have to count them as it could be difficult to see with the eyes especially if the pack is much used....
It seems elaborated, but: I feel fine with the old method whether this would be the coins or yarrows.
Have I misunderstood You ???

One more question: How do You find changing lines in this method ?

(Item in discuss)
 
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If you have a deck of 64 hexagram cards, an easy way to cast is to select two cards at random. That gives the two hexagrams of a standard casting. The changing lines (if one wants them) are the lines that differ between the two hexagrams.
 

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But: then it's not random whether a hexagram becomes unchanging or not....
 

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But: then it's not random whether a hexagram becomes unchanging or not....
You are right. My proposed two-card method would never give an unchanging hexagram. But some do not like unchanging hexagrams :)
 

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:rofl:

I've read somewhere - don't remember the spot - that it's a later tradition whith changing lines... But I've also seen very old examples of readings with changing lines. In Biroco's paper it's shown with examples where, as I see it, the diviner concentrated on the changing trigrams somewhere without focusing on the lines specially. In Richard Rutts book on I Ching too some of theese examples points toward the readings on the changing trigram - rather than the changing hexagram as a whole...
But, I just mentions this out of my memory. Can't remember where I got it from, unfortunately
 
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In Richard Rutts book on I Ching too some of theese examples points toward the readings on the changing trigram - rather than the changing hexagram as a whole...
But, I just mentions this out of my memory. Can't remember where I got it from, unfortunately
This method occurs in the Takashima Ekidan. Thanks to Sparhawk, this is now a globally accessible Google book.
 

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Right, but thanks to Biroco I'd access it.

btw I think this discussion is out of the theme of this thread...
 

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