A hexagram for me this year: 23.1.5.6 ---3

[Miglix21]

Hello everyone. Happy new year. I would like to ask you insight on this reading. The intention of the question was to ask for advice or insight this year. At first, when I did the casting I was not sure about what could mean. But later I started to look at the hexagrams first rather than the lines and the idea began to be drawn in my head slowly.

I could say I come from an erosion period this last year that has passed, "stripping off" behaviors, beliefs and relationships. Since hexagram 3 is the picture of a "sprouting plant or seed" it can the meaning of "something new" in its begginings "coming out" from a period of erosion, something that made me feel secure because it took away the sense of "destruction" on hexagram 23 and the sense of "difficulties" of hexagram 3. That doesn't mean things are going to be easy anyway but I'am fine with it.

What puzzles me now is the meaning of the lines and what approach should I take to understand the reading. Lines 1 of both hexagrams are easy to understand for me. There is danger around, people I should disengage from, a lot of projects and help needed to carry them out. So while I am and have been in a sort of "stripping away" from what I could call "inferior people" and they are in the intent to have a successful influence on me - hex 23.1- "I am in an uncertain situation about what to do or who to call for help" -as it is stated in hex 3.1- so by the time being "it is better to do nothing". What is it interesting to note for me is that in both cases the statement of the lines calls for "non-action".

If I see it as a progression, once I step out from hexagram 23.1 to enter to "hexagram 3.1", help will be needed to overcome the situation as it is stated in hex 3.1 proper correlate, the line 4. If I would have had hex 3.1----8, line one from hex 8 also states "to be sincere in attain union". So, it is clear that whatever my projects are or my situation is, there must be help. I will continue with the reading applying it to a particular situation related to work.

If I continue with the progression this would take me to hexagram 23.5 "a string of fishes", this it could be a person that in the past behaved very badly to me and that now starts to change behaviors -this is just a conjeture, I am not sure, but right now it is the only way this reading makes sense for me-. The help of this person would lead me to hex 3.5 "Difficulties in blessings" stating that since there is still no cofidence between this person and me only small things could be attained and perhaps once the hindrance is past as the statement of the line says I could go up to hexagram 23.6 "There is a large fruit still uneaten. The superior man receives a carriage. The house of the inferior man slipts apart" and it seems to me that everything is clear until this line. If I continue to read this as a progression it confuses the meaning of hex 3.6 for me.

On a later post, I have asked about working for some friend of mine who has been diagnosed with BDP and got hexagram 19.1.5 and I asked wether "I should strive to continue working for him?". Working for him is what I have been doing and certainly, I have had success in small things. And there is plan of going back to work with him from his house -If you ask why would I do this thing again, is because the works options I have on the Capitol, eventhough I rejected before any work options because I thought in the sake of my life first, regarding this person- . Nevertheless, this also makes me rethink on how should I take these both readings. I understand line 19.1 to 29.1 as something fortunate but, it will lead you into peril again, but, If I take this reading as a sequence too, then hexagram 29.1 would somehow take me again to 19.5 -if there was something learnt from the repeated chasm, you should know a way to approach danger (19.5) and find a way with less resistance to get out (29.5) but for me this is not conclusive. But somehow it gives me insights too. In chinese hexagram 19.1 says "咸臨", "Xian Lin". "咸" Xian is the name of the hexagram 31, "Influence" so, Xian Lin is like "telaphatic approach" -taken from iching123 website-. I speak japanese, so the meaning would be something like "there is an approach because there is an invisible influence on both sides". Regarding hexagram 19.5 it says "知臨 ", "Zhí Lin" whereas "知" is the picture of an arrow being shot to an objective an hitting, and it means "knowledge" to be "assertive" therefore it means to know how to approach. Perhaps it is telling me to work at distance as I have been doing? I see an interesting dialogue between those two lines. Seems to me that approaching his place is to fall on a repeated chasm but perhaps to work at distance is the way of approaching him and the way with least resistance out of peril? I have also gotten hexagram 29.1.5 to 19 when I asked if I should return to his house, so, the anwser seems to be pretty obvious. But now I see hexagram 19.1.5 to 29 as "how to approach peril" vs 29.1.5 as "peril approaching", you don't follow the way of least resistance (29.5) then you will fall on a pit (29.1) and misfortune will be the result.

So, now, getting back to my first subject. I don't know if getting back to his house would be hexagram 23.6 to 3.6. I see the difficulty on going back. It makes me feel anxious, nervous and a lot of other stuff. And as I stated in the first post I made, the situation between him and me ended up in a very bad conflict, but now that I remember, I once asked about that subject and I got hex 23.6, because, somehow, things didn't come out as he planned but, I lost my job. I can see a future situation here... because, going back to Caracas would be a great opportunity for me again (23.6) and somehow there would some support -with danger- so perhaps it is line 3.6 acting on hex 23.6 situation?. But I also see this.... going back, hexagram 24 would follow hexagram 23.6 to 3.6 If I take the decision to go back, but with it also follows hexagram 4.... I would return in a total ignorance of what would happen to me... If there would be some retaliation for what happened... Another interpretation I can suggest is that there are hidden intentions from his part to me, and therefore that would end again in a 23.6 situation without me going anywhere but that would lead me again to a 3.6 situation in very similar to 3.1 line... a lot of projects and no help to carry them out.... So, I am not so sure how not to persevere in that behavior -bloody tears flows-.

This was only applied to a small scale. On a larger scale, I think this year will be full of small attainments. I also made a question yesterday regarding a "soul mate" and curiously got the same reading -.-. But I don't recall quite well what was the question made but I do remember to get the same reading. So, it seems this will be applying to more than one situation.

What are your thoughts on this?. Thank you very much.

 

[mandarin_23]

Hello Miglix, this is an annual reading, so I would not apply it to an actual decision. At the contrary - 23|3 speaks of clearing the ground, accept erosion, and then make a new start. Times are hard, and there is not so much you can do. 23 means to take your time, go through the process, and with 23.6 there is always some light at the end of the tunnel. This cooperation with this guy seems to upset you a lot, which is definitively not a good basis for a cooperation. There needs to be trust.

The change pattern (Yang) with 23.1.5.6|3 is 42, and Yin pattern is 41, so there is a question of income or loss behind. I think this looks very positive, you will get over the insecurity.

Have a good year!
Mandarine_23

 

[Miglix21]

Hello Miglix, this is an annual reading, so I would not apply it to an actual decision. At the contrary - 23|3 speaks of clearing the ground, accept erosion, and then make a new start. Times are hard, and there is not so much you can do. 23 means to take your time, go through the process, and with 23.6 there is always some light at the end of the tunnel. This cooperation with this guy seems to upset you a lot, which is definitively not a good basis for a cooperation. There needs to be trust.

The change pattern (Yang) with 23.1.5.6|3 is 42, and Yin pattern is 41, so there is a question of income or loss behind. I think this looks very positive, you will get over the insecurity.

Have a good year!
Mandarine_23

Thank you very much mandarin_23. Well yes, I thought I shouldn't apply it exactly to an actual decision or a particular situation. The whole thing came up when I tried to understand the reading. But, I guess than taking it in a general overview it is telling me that "bad things" would eventually "erode" and turn out to something better. Regarding "the cooperation with this guy", well yes, the whole thing is an upsetting situation but it is my only income right now. I was about to ask you what the yang and yin pattern were, but I found it on other post. That makes this interesting because the "money-income" has been one of the most hard subject to me. So, I will see how to apply this yang-yin pattern and perhaps come back if I have some doubts.

 

[Miglix21]

The change pattern (Yang) with 23.1.5.6|3 is 42, and Yin pattern is 41, so there is a question of income or loss behind. I think this looks very positive, you will get over the insecurity.
Have a good year!
Mandarine_23

Mandarine_23 What would be your thoughts on this picture? I have drawn both the yin and yang pattern of hexagram 23 resulting in hexagram 42 as you said for the yang patter and hexagram 32 for the yin pattern.

I don't know exactly why I started to interchange hexagram 42 lower and upper trigrams and found hexagram 32 (perhaps because I was seeing the movement of the trigrams) I also changed all the lines to search the shadow hexagram -how not to think about the situation- and found hexagram 32. This was done before searching the yin pattern wich have also resulted in hexagram 32.

Hillary says that the yang pattern is the way "in the situation" and the yin pattern "the way out". So, again, I have a few thoughts on this. I know I shouldn't apply this to any particular situation, but something had happened that somehow makes me go again to what I was exposing before with this friend.

While I was drawing the lines to connect hexagram 263.6 to hexagram 3.6 I felt like a "crumble" in my stomach, it is a weird felling I have had when this friend of mine contacts me, and a feeling I don't like at all. I cannot help to think this reading is way to related too this individual perhaps in ways I still don't know.

Hillary says in her blog that the yang pattern shows the gateway in or somesort of "screenshot" of the moment in which the question was asked and it is true. My biggest concern -one of them- is what I am going to do for a living, a job -42- and the way out, hexagram 32? It fits perfectly, it can be a way through the "difficult beggining" I am experiencing.... a commitment.

Hexagram 3 line 6 seems to be warning me more of a behavior rather than a concrete situation. Of course I can see the initial difficulties for me, it is calling me not to give up. You said "This cooperation with this guy seems to upset you a lot, which is definitively not a good basis for a cooperation. There needs to be trust. " Yes, definetly. The thing is that the cooperation issue and lack of trust doesn't exactly comes from my side, I mean, there is mistrust from my side, but that is the result of previous experiences with this person, and people with BPD have a problem to trust other people, it isn't like it is his fault, nobody is to be blamed for having a mental disorder, but my capability for having a positive effect on the relationship is reduced. Other thing is the dangerous situations this person often creates which of course will generate mistrust and rejection and, how violent he gets when he faces rejection and mistrust when he himselfs creates the situation from the beggining, somesort of permanent dead-end, of course, it would be very difficult to have "a commiment" with this person the sameway it would be very difficult to do things on my own without any help, something hard as line 3.6 states.

Now, I have asked the Yi a question related to a relationship, sadly for me, I don't remember exactly what was the question made, but I do remember having the same cast. So, of course, I made the question because I desired someone to be on my side, and that is, somehow and augmentation -42- and the way out of the difficulty of not having anybody is a "commiment" -32-. I see a pretty obvious anwser here.

Going to the big picture of this year. I think my difficult begginins will end with difficult commitments.

 

[mandarin_23]

Hi Miglix 21,

well it's a process of decision making. The situation you are in doesn't sound all to easy, obviously not, with 23 as a basis, but it is also about making a new beginning. Sprouting.

Only that you have to accept what there is. You don't get along with your business partner, it doesn't sound good at all, - but - you are not deciding how to get out of this situation, which actually seems to be even a bit dangerous - maybe you think you can't risk it, so far. So you'll have to bear it for a while, endure. Go through the process.

Change pattern Yang 42 - thinking about our income - and Yin pattern 32, true! We can't really tell right away, what it means, except that it is this element you need to change your situation into 3 and vice versa.

Basically, with 42, there is a movement towards you, gain, a blessing maybe, luck. You might get an offer.

 

[Miglix21]

Hi Miglix 21,

well it's a process of decision making. The situation you are in doesn't sound all to easy, obviously not, with 23 as a basis, but it is also about making a new beginning. Sprouting.

Only that you have to accept what there is. You don't get along with your business partner, it doesn't sound good at all, - but - you are not deciding how to get out of this situation, which actually seems to be even a bit dangerous - maybe you think you can't risk it, so far. So you'll have to bear it for a while, endure. Go through the process.

Change pattern Yang 42 - thinking about our income - and Yin pattern 32, true! We can't really tell right away, what it means, except that it is this element you need to change your situation into 3 and vice versa.

Basically, with 42, there is a movement towards you, gain, a blessing maybe, luck. You might get an offer.

Well, yes, I supposed there is always hexagram 25 unchanging for everyone of us. The unexpected. Certainly I have not decided how to get out of the situation, because, I don't know how. As you have said I would have to endure it for a while. And as you were saying, I cannot tell what kind of commitment I need to get out of the difficulty, only that one is needed.

Now, on the reasons for why I went straight to the situation when I got the reading, it is because precisely I situated on line 23.5 to 3.5. Things have undergone a little change and I have received a benefit not as good as when I was working for this person from his house, but enough to have what to eat in my fridge.

Hex 3.5 speaks about a hindrance that must pass "He must not try to force the consummation of a great undertaking, because success is possible only when general confidence already prevails. It is only through faithful and conscientious work, unobtrusively carried on, that the situation gradually clears up and the hindrance disappears", I can see myself here perfectly. And what you were saying can also be seen, "there must be trust" in order for things to succeed. We are both striving for the same goal, my idea was to deliver Spanish classes online, he wanted to deliver English classes to chinese public, but, later when he contacted me, I got the surprise that he did want to deliver Spanish classes online. In order to do so, I need a lot of resources I don't have right now, but he has -unless I find a different partner-. Anyway, he is paying me for developing the classes -less than he should pay if he were hiring a professional- but way better than any salary I can get in Venezuela if I go to a local bakery to ask for job.

The point here is, if the hindrance is past, wether it speaks about this situation or any other similar situation to this, that would lead me to hexagram 23.6 "The superior man again attains influence and effectiveness. He is supported by public opinion as if in a carriage. But the inferior man's wickedness is visited upon himself. His house is split apart". So, I do relate this with going back, because somehow, the condictions to work are better in the capitol comparing it with the place in which I live -power supply, internet connection speed and those stuff that are a problem in Venezuela- and he has the means. But, there is also a sense of who is the superior and inferior man here.

If I had someone else to work with, I wouldn't work with him. What happened between us was a situation of overstepping of boundaries and limits that leaded to a fight. There was harrasment by this person because he thought he can harrass people because he has money. I could elabore what happened but that would only make the post bigger than what it is already. There is some sense of loss of dignity working again for him vs a need to work.

This finally leads me to two possibilities. Going back to work to his house actually feels like hex 23.6 to 3.6. I know that if I go back I will have a lot of resources to use, but, the thought of being harrassed or exposed to dangerous situations stops me from doing this, perhaps, that's why line 3.6 is a warning about my own behavior or perhaps is a whole different history, there could also be a possibility that a new partner could come into the stage, resulting on the demise spoken for the inferior people on line 6 (23), but, again, line 3.6 would be a warning of not taking a decision or be lead to a situation I don't want to enter in because the difficulty of carrying out my project. The whole situation has given me a lot to think about, not only the situation, but how to read the Iching.

I would like to thank you and Hillary for the yang and yin pattern. -I expect she ever get to read this post-
. But I think I have reached a conclusion here. Thank you also for having the time to read an awnser my questions.