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A suicidal friend: 39.1.3.6 -> 42 and 63.2 -> 5

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Hi all,

A dear friend of mine is going through a period of intense depression and I think she's at risk of suicide. We live far away from each other and correspond mostly through texting, emails, sometimes the phone. She's made vague but frightening social media posts about her feelings about herself and life right now. When we communicate directly her depression and suicidal feelings are not as apparent (unless I bring it up first, which I have done, I'm not sure how successfully). She's an extraordinary person, an artist and a healer, but life has been very tough to her.

I'm extremely worried about her and trying to figure out how to help her without being overbearing. I know her roommates well, too, and I trust them to look after her in the day-to-day, but I'm anguished that she's suffering like this and frankly just very worried that despite the loving people in her life, she won't make it back from this. My gut feeling is that she is seriously considering suicide.

I asked Yi first, "How can I help her?"

I received 39.1.3.6 -> 42 which...I took to be a very discouraging reading. The 42 is mysterious to me in light of the changing lines for 39 which are so bleak (when considered in terms of how I can help-- Yi seems to be saying, "Anything you do will just make things more difficult"). If it helps give context, I was considering traveling to see her for a few days and this possibility was at the back of my mind as I asked this question. I haven't brought up visiting, and I'm not sure she'd welcome it when she is feeling this bad.

Then I asked, "What do I need to know about my friend and her suicidal feelings right now?" and received 63.2 into 5, which at first was far more reassuring that perhaps this depression is a temporary, passing danger. And yet, in reading the Wilhelm translation's "That which is a man's own cannot be permanently lost. It comes to him of its own accord. He need only be able to wait."-- I had a sudden, chilling sense that Yi could be speaking of reincarnation somehow (especially followed by 5). I have no doubt that she and I knew each other in earlier lives, and will know each other again in ones to come. And now I can't get past seeing that possibility in this reading and I'm feeling even more upset and uncertain of the right course of action.

Can anyone help with interpretations for this? I'm feeling very low and anxious. Thank you in advance.
 

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Hi Mulberry,
I do not think that the first reading is all that negative at all. To quote a longer passage from Akira Rabelais:

"The southwest is the region of retreat, the northeast that of advance. Here an
individual is confronted by obstacles that cannot be overcome directly. In
such a situation it is wise to pause in view of the danger and to retreat.
However, this is merely a preparation for overcoming the obstructions. One
must join forces with friends of like mind and put himself under the
leadership of a man equal to the situation: then one will succeed in
removing the obstacles. This requires the will to persevere just when one
apparently must do something that leads away from his goal. This
unswerving inner purpose brings good fortune in the end."

to me this seems like an accurate description of your friends situation - she encounters problems that cannot be presently, instantly solved. HOWEVER this is only temporary and will eventually be overcome. What the reading to me seems to advise are the following things:
For your friend to focus on her own inner self (the southwest), and also to go and find help (see the great man). Could that be to find a therapist / other counselling? With this you might be able to support her.
Also I don't think that the lines look all that bleak - more a reminder to be patient as no immediate solution will appear . But the future holds promise (Hex 42, Increase).
I hope you will be able to help your friend and everything will turn out well!

maui
 

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Thanks muchly, Maui! My feelings of panic for her have subsided somewhat. She's housesitting in a remote area at the moment which does make me nervous...but it also seems like the break from the urban environment she usually is in is helping her state of mind. She lost most of her family in tragic circumstances a few years ago, but it all seems to be catching up with her now...this is the root cause of her depression. Grief works on its own schedule... I will update this thread eventually, hopefully with news she's emerged unscathed from this dangerous period.
 

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How can I help her? 39.1.3.6 -> 42
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Support her, try to inspire her, talk about things that are worth living for.

39.1 Wilhelm: When one encounters an obstruction, the important thing is to reflect on how best to deal with it. When threatened with danger, one should not strive blindly to go ahead, for this only leads to complications. The correct thing is, on the contrary, to retreat for the time being, not in order to give up the struggle but to await the right moment for action.
Try to ease up, relax, chill out.

63.3 Crowley: Put to each enterprise the full force needed!
Don't give up, the problems can be solved.

3.6 Wilhelm: The difficulties at the beginning are too great for some persons. They get stuck and never find their way out; they fold their hands and give up the struggle. Such resignation is the saddest of all things. Therefore Confucius says of this line: "Bloody tears flow: one should not persist in this."
Yep, don't give up. 42 Increase is possible.

63.2 Describes a lady who has lost her screen/shield of protection.
The feelings will pass, it can be that her sensitivity is increasing (you mentioned she's healer) and she needs time to readjust. As a reward she will be able to use new levels of energy.

She's probably a volunteer that Dolores Cannon mentions in her book "3 waves of volunteers', and I think this excerpt will help:
The first wave of these souls, in their late 40s to early 60s (after the dropping of the bomb at the end of the 1940s) now, have had the most difficult time adjusting. They don't like the violence and ugliness they find in this world and want to return “home”—even though they have no idea, consciously, where that might be. Emotions disturb and even paralyze them, especially strong ones like anger and hate. They cannot handle being around people expressing them. These dramatically affect them, as though emotions are foreign to them. They are used to peace and love because that was what they experienced where they came from. Even though these people seem to have a good life, loving family and a good job, many of them try to commit suicide. There seems to be no logical reason, yet they are so unhappy they don’t want to be here.

The second wave are now in their late 20s and 30s. They are moving through life much more easily. They are generally focused on helping others, creating no karma, and normally going unnoticed. They have been described as antennas, beacons, generators, channels of energy. They have come in with a unique energy that greatly affects others. They don’t have to do anything. They just have to be. I have been told that just by walking through a crowded mall or grocery store their energy affects everyone they come in contact with. It is that strong, and of course, they do not realize this consciously. The paradox is that although they are supposed to be affecting people by their energy, they really don’t feel comfortable being around people. So many of them stay home secluded, to avoid mixing with others; even working from their homes. Thus they are defeating their purpose. Many of the first and second wave do not want to have children. They unconsciously realize that children create karma, and they don’t want to have anything tie them here. They just want to do their job and get out of here.

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The amount of emails and snail mail that I receive after each of these shows is unbelievable. The mail comes from all over the world, and is always the same. They are so grateful for the information. They thought they were the only ones in the world who had these feelings of not wanting to be here, of not understanding the violence in the world, of wanting to go “home,” of seriously entertaining thoughts of suicide in order to get out. It has helped them tremendously to know they are not crazy, that they are not alone. That they are one of many who volunteered to come and help the Earth through its crisis mode. They just were not prepared for the repercussions on their gentle souls.

The letters all say the same thing, they are grateful for an explanation that makes sense to them. I have even had them come up to me after one of my lectures, crying, and saying, “Thank you. Now I understand.” Even though they still don’t like the violence and vibration of Earth, now that they know they have a mission, they are determined to stay and complete it. It has made a vast difference in their lives.

I want to quote from one of thousands of emails I received in 2010 after one of my radio shows. “I’d like to thank you for speaking about the ‘3 waves’ because I believe I am one of the people from the First Wave, born in 1961. My much younger brother, I believe, is from the Second Wave, born 1980. We have talked about this many times, and have agreed that we were in fact Extraterrestrials and were not from Earth! I had an extreme vision once about the actual planning session for the 3 waves that took place before I incarnated. It was quite detailed and interesting. You might also be interested to know that this plan was in fact tried once before, and failed because the numbers of volunteers were not high enough! It was then that ‘we’ decided to open the flood gates and ‘stack the deck’ with as many high souls as could possibly be gathered. This time I think the plan is working!

Try to cheer her up! Suicide won't solve anything, she'll have to go through this lesson again.
 

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Thanks, Ashteroid. Your comments and insights are reassuring, and your description of "waves of volunteers" rings true in a broad sense. My friend is also an aboriginal person, so is dealing with a lot of generation heartbreak and cycles of family addiction in her life...deep spiritual and physical traumas that are related to wider societal and environmental traumas over the past few centuries. I think deep down she knows, as you said, that she'd just have to do these lessons again if she checks out now...which gives me hope that she'll get through this. Thanks!
 
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Just for the record, Akira Rabelais' web page is a Wilhelm and Baynes translation.

All 3 lines of 39 advise coming rather than going. The way of increase for her (and/or you?) is in turning inward for healing. Waiting there, her sense of value will return.
 

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Hi sooo,

thanks for the info! This is the translation / interpretation I use most, together with Alfred Huang.
best wishes

maui
 

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A short update-- my friend seems to be doing much better, especially since the new year. She's in a good relationship, a better housing situation, and is making art again. I am really relieved for her!
 

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