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maremaria

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Hi everyone,

I decided to apply for a postgraduate degree. I already have the application forms the universities send me but there are in my desk’s drawer. The main problem is I have not the money for tuitions so I stopped the procedure. Maybe there is also a fear to make that step and some obligations in my job/family. On the other hand, is something I want very much and I thought that it is the time to try. So I asked.

1.what is this degree for me.? : 9.1.6. >48
2.what if I try to apply ? 41.1 > 4
3.which is your (to Yi) advice about my plan to apply? 63.1,2,5,6, > 18


1. what is this degree for me.? : 9.1.6. >48
9.1 : I perceive continuing my studies as a return to my way, after a long time wandering around ? I perceive this studying experiences as a vital importance not for my career but for myself.
9.6 . My “ dance to rain” will bring the rain ? Seriously, I have no idea what this line means. Do you ?

48. The well. My source of nourishment. But I think that I can drink the water because the rod is to short and the jug can’t reach the water

How would you interpret that ?

2.What if I try to apply ? 41.1 > 4
Something should be diminished here? But what ? My affairs-obligations, my tendency to give to others things I should keep for myself (its one of the obstacles what hinder my progress ) or something else ?
hex 4 : It has to do with learning. This could be good (been accepted ) or not good (reject my application or accept it and me not able to find the funds). Either way something will be uncovered. :eek:
Am I missing something here ?

3. Which is your (Yi’s) advice about my plan to apply? 63.1,2,5,6, > 18

And here is where I need your help most.
I’m confused from the “After Completion” title of this hexagram. It’s like asking advice on my attempt to cross the river and how to do that and I get 63 “already across”
What is the great water here ? the whole plan or just the decision to go for it ?
:confused:
Any ideas about 63.1,2,5,6, > 18?


Maria
 

Trojina

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Hi Maria, my overall impressions from your readings is that this may not be the right time for you to go ahead with this plan.

Your 9 - 48 readings suggests to me you need to take care not to attempt more than you can handle right now. Hex 9 generally advises things aren't quite ripe for action - I feel you are better staying with your current responsibilities for now (line1). Line 6 advises clearly that 'perseverance brings the woman into danger' Wilhelm - you have accomplished enough for the time being, pause, take a rest, let things develop. I don't think this means give up your goal completely, but perhaps postpone it till circumstances are more favourable.(BTW Karcher mentions adversity from the wifes family - you have family business don't you so these may have a bearing on your answer) Hex 48 reinforces this message - if you attempt the course before you have the resources at your disposal, as in time/money then you break your 'jug'. It would be worse to attempt it to early and fail than to wait a while and succeed.

I think 41.1 reinforces this messge - you may try to apply but there are so many other things needing you attention you may become depleted - you need to be aware of how much you have in all ways, not just money, but time, commitments etc

63 to 18 - re advice about plan to apply ? I think this refers to your plan being aborted before its even started - - many things converge to cause this plan to decay/crumble - whether its your circumstances or your own misgivings about other commitments. Sound to me like a predictive answer - like the Yi answers it doesn't think you will be applying - but thats how it works for me sometimes - I ask for advice and it tells me it already knows what i am going to do :rolleyes:

For me this series of answers strongly suggests to put your plan on hold - but I hate to crush your enthusiasm so please bear in mind I could be absolutely wrong. :D
 
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For me this series of answers strongly suggests to put your plan on hold - but I hate to crush your enthusiasm so please bear in mind I could be absolutely wrong. :D

Hi Trojan,
thanks for your reply . You don't have to worry about the bad news :)

I have some questions ,but unfortunely I am in work trying to catch up things should be ready on Monday morning. :eek:
I'll be back with my questions.
 

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"1. what is this degree for me.? : 9.1.6. >48"

This warns you not to push ahead with this idea, better to stay where you are in life and continue on your present course.

"2.What if I try to apply ? 41.1 > 4 "

It suggests that you should consider your family and others before you embark on this course of action, think of the consequences of your actions on others.

"3. Which is your (Yi’s) advice about my plan to apply? 63.1,2,5,6, > 18"

This again warns you to stop and not pursue this idea for it will only cause you unwanted problems, so the IC is telling you not to complicate your life, to keep things simple and forget this idea. Work, instead, on making your daily life better.
 
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Maria, you've asked these questions already, in various ways. I think your readings are saying, you need to calm down before deciding or doing anything. Do you think the Yi cares whether you get your degree or not, as though one way is bad and the other good? You care, and your reasons for caring may be causing the turmoil. I think your reasons and the condition these reasons create are what the Yi is speaking to.
 
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Truth comes out of the earth like lava, and out of the sky like lightening. You can't stop it or fool it, or change its course. Neither will a clever question change the course Yi’s answer.
 
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maremaria

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Maria, you've asked these questions already, in various ways. I think your readings are saying, you need to calm down before deciding or doing anything. Do you think the Yi cares whether you get your degree or not, as though one way is bad and the other good? You care, and your reasons for caring may be causing the turmoil. I think your reasons and the condition these reasons create are what the Yi is speaking to.

Truth comes out of the earth like lava, and out of the sky like lightening. You can't stop it or fool it, or change its course. Neither will a clever question change the course Yi’s answer.
Hi Bruce,
It is not clear to me what you want to tell me. Maybe the questions was not well chosen but I am pretty sure that I wasn’t intended to make Yi questions to trick it and get the answer I wanted. .
The first question about getting a “definition” what this degree is for me. Because in my mind is not just I paper that it will help me to gain more money (probably it is not a very good investment ) but to finish something I started before 10 years . Something I postponed because then the time was not a ripe time to leave my job (for many family reasons I choose to stay). It’s just about something I ought to myself.
I “definition” might helped me to see what is behind my specific need.

The second question was made to have a general idea. (Maybe now I am looking again at it is not a brilliant one):blush:

The third question was about getting some guidance how to act .

From the first two questions I thought that the Yi encouraged me to pursue my goal. So I asked the third question for how to work on that plan.

I have a lot of things to consider before I send my application. Which course, which university, in which way (on line or in campus) in my country or abroad etc.

I have to go now. There is a big fire where my mother lives and she doesn't pick up the phone. I have to go there and check who things are . All the country is on fire. Big dissaster and many dead people.

Please if you notice something wrong in my questions , tell me. I still learning so any comment will be useful for the future.

Maria
 
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Hi Maria,

What I'm saying is, I don't believe the Yi is answering your questions directly. I don't believe the Yi would tell you to go or not go back to school, as though one was right and the other was wrong. I've seen too many others chase, and I have also chased, these types of "I'm now on a mission from God" visions, only to later discover in retrospect that the Yi was indifferent to "going" or "not going", and instead was speaking to the current condition of the head, heart and immediate circumstance.

You asked the Yi:

1.what is this degree for me.? : 9.1.6. >48 - This I see as a good question, because you want insight into yourself, to help you make good choices. All that’s here in 9 are small things which need taking care of, things which require your attention. That could apply to filing papers with the school, or it could mean tending to your own inner hungry chickens. 48 seems to give a good clue as to which it means, or at least it looks that way from here. I’m no genius, so I could be wrong.. but that’s how it looks from here.

2.what if I try to apply ? 41.1 > 4 – Now we start to get a little “tricky”, with 4 trying to get answers in ways which can be dubious. Yi says, calm down, take care of your affairs, and don’t neglect either your ambitions or your immediate duties.

3.which is your (to Yi) advice about my plan to apply? 63.1,2,5,6, > 18 – 63 can mean you are already prepared to undertake something. The other day, I asked Yi about my performance at an upcoming recording session, receiving 63. I practiced over the rough track, I had a good idea of what I wanted to do, I was prepared and ready. I see Yi as saying, you are prepared and ready to take the next step. It’s a good time to fix things in your life, to work on what has been allowed to decay. A good time… not saying “go do this now!” or “don’t go do this now.”

I’m just trying to spare you some heartache from making solid life decisions based on what you think Yi is “telling” you to do. What you do is what you choose to do. Yi can help you along the way.

I’ve seen some footage of the fires over there. My prayers are with you and yours.
 
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maremaria

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Hi Bruce,
Thank you for your detailed explanation. It helped me a lot. I was looking for an answer in the wrong place that's why it was so confusing to me.

I asked Yi also "help me with your answers" and I got 1.1.2 >33
I read it as Don't act now ( don't make any desicion) just work on that (e.g. gather all the information you did, explore each alternative etc.) and then withdrawal. As I pervieve withdrawal is like Yi tells me step back see the whole picture and then decide.

BTW, do you think is proper to ask a question like that or it depends on the situation ?

ps. We are OK with the fire. The wind change direction and we are safe now. But the only forest we had near us is just a history. Unfortunely some others in the area are in great danger. The sad thing is people put this fires in order to built house in the future.

Thanks for your concern.
Maria
 
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maremaria

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Trojan and Willowfox,
thanks for your contribution. We gave me a lot food for thougth.

Trojan ,this is the second time I got 63. The first one was like "it's over" but here (maybe wishfull thinking) I see it as a cycle closed for a new cicle to open. I think is about my desicion not the whole proccess. It was like stand in the one side of the river and thinking :should I cross the river or shouldn't . I want to go to the other side but will I manage or I will get drowned ?. And then I decided. "I will do it, no matter what the outcome." I see 63 like "ok you are already accross but this is just one river not the last one. You succeed this one ,but success is not final." ... and hopefully failure is not always fatal .

How do you perceive (Trojan and everyone ... ) 63 in general ?
 

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I associate hexagram 63 with 'ghosts of the past': loose ends, unfinished business.
In your case this probably refers to the studies that you started 10 years ago and didn't finish yet. You would like to complete what you have started back then.
But it may also refer to your situation now because, in a sense, you are considering to end this cycle of living and start a new one.

If hexagram 63 is also about this cycle, your life now, the Yi is perhaps saying that it is important to end or complete it in a proper way, insofar that is necessary (I suppose the life that you have now will continue in some way, so not everything needs to end).
Then you can concentrate on your studies when you resume them, without being distracted by 'ghosts' (loose ends, unfinished stuff) from this cycle.

I saw on the news that there are many huge forest fires in Southern Europe now, in Italy, Greece and other countries. Good to hear that you are safe!
Is it not odd that hexagram 63 is water on fire? :)
 

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Trojan and Willowfox,
thanks for your contribution. We gave me a lot food for thougth.

Trojan ,this is the second time I got 63. The first one was like "it's over" but here (maybe wishfull thinking) I see it as a cycle closed for a new cicle to open. I think is about my desicion not the whole proccess. It was like stand in the one side of the river and thinking :should I cross the river or shouldn't . I want to go to the other side but will I manage or I will get drowned ?. And then I decided. "I will do it, no matter what the outcome." I see 63 like "ok you are already accross but this is just one river not the last one. You succeed this one ,but success is not final." ... and hopefully failure is not always fatal .

How do you perceive (Trojan and everyone ... ) 63 in general ?

My personal set of associations with 63 tend to be 'this is done with' quite literally, that colours my view, because so often thats what it has meant for me - but your interpretation is I think far more sophisticated - at least you are thinking about river banks ;)- which i always forget to do so I like your interpretation - if that is how you see 63 in regard to your question then thats important.

I also agree with what Martin and Bruce said about 63. :)
 
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maremaria

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I associate hexagram 63 with 'ghosts of the past': loose ends, unfinished business.

Interesting ! Both times I received 63 was about 'ghosts of the past' . Thanks Martin.

As for the fire in my place the water was enougth to stop it. But in other places , like Ancient Olympia water and fire are still figthing. :(
 

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