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tabitha

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Hello-
i connected with a friend recently- romantic things from a year ago, but mainly just some mixed signals, timing, etc. I am confused and check in sometimes to see if we should go further- after 3 weeks i contacted him. I asked how does he feel about this relationship- and received 53- in my i ching is gradual development.
I know personally, that i feel something for sure- a friend, a connection- but that I long for something deeper- and am searching etc- Am I ok in contacting the i ching this way? It feels inappropriate, and possibly a projection-
 

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Hi tabitha.
I think that you've answered your own question when you tell us how you feel! If the I Ching gives us insight to the things both visible and invisible, human and spiritual, that are going on, in, on and around the subject of your question, it will only ever place before us information that will enable us to make better informed choices. I love I Ching and us two versions which sometimes give me two very different readings for one Hex.I find that doing this opens my heart and mind even further to the possibilities presented. Bearing this in mind, this shows that different versions are only another persons interpretation of the original chinese texts and their meanings, which to me proves that the guidance we are ultimately given is how any input we receive a) makes us feel and b) more importantly in my view, makes us think and act. By thinking deeply about the underlieing connections indicated from all and any readings on a question , you may achieve a new perception of things. With this you will sometimes find you also change how you feel.

However as regards your reading In both my versions 53, quote "reflects the protracted, ceremonious procedures attending the arrangement of a proper marriage" not just any old "gradual development"! To me thats a very positive answer. I would interprete this as meaning "that as far as this guy is concerened there is a proper, formal process, you need to go through to go forward with this relationship the essence of which is a "gradual development". You rushing things will not help and you must also relate to what is actually important to the guy in this? If you don't know maybe you should ask that question ! Remember you ask "how does he feel about this relationship" and this is your answer.

Regards
Jack
 

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The, "Am I projecting?" question is a seriously good question.

I have been using the iChing on-and-off for approximately 35 years. In retrospect (especially in retrospect) it's really never been wrong. For me, the correctness of the iChing has been on a very literal, objective level. Unlike dream analysis, or even other forms of divination such as Tarot cards. It's all right there in black & white, yes at times cloaked in metaphors, and at other times as clear as being whopped in the face with a 2 x 4.

So anyway, I have been especially troubled with the disapearence of my cat a month ago. (regarding -- http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=5013 ). And the answers are so consistent, I started to wonder if the iChing was nothing but just a bunch of fancy "fortune cookie wisdom", or at most a projection of my own desires. So I though, what the heck, I'll do a base-line test. I don't know why, but I never thought it would be right to apply anything even resembling scientific principal to the iChing, but again, what the heck!

So I thought I would ask a couple of questions that were very far afield from the ongoing topic just to see if the responses would be any different. Using an on-line click-to-iChing-reading site, which basically gives me the same kind of response as throwing coins (a surprise in and of itself), here's the two test questions with the responses I received:

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Did Goofy steal Mickey Mouse's tie?

58. Exchange
Line 3:

Coming exchange.
Misfortune.

The exchange is not taking place now, but somewhere in the future. This is unfortunate.


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Is George Bush a great commander in chief?

11. Passing Through
Line 4:

Fluttering, fluttering.
Not enriched by one's neighbors.
Careless because of confidence.

Moving to and fro, while not being supported by others. One's confidence is making one careless.


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The goose bumps finally went away a week later.

-- Joseph
 

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One thing I am surprised about the I-Ching is that the act of throwing coins is so random but then answers your receive seem to be spot on in terms of regarding your situations generally, I don't really know how it works but I am baffled by these things makes no sense!

To asnwer your question yes and no, it seems to be more like a wise elder you consult when you need to
 

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One thing I am surprised about the I-Ching is that the act of throwing coins is so random but then answers your receive seem to be spot on in terms of regarding your situations generally...

Indeed! The best conclusion I have been able to come to, as to how this dynamic is employed, is this - Simply stated, the universal conscious fills the cracks in the rational wall.

If you've ever done serious time with a ouija board and a friend, then you will have come away with a very good sense of this same kind of dynamic. Where do the mysterious ouija messages come from? Is it you? Is it your friend? Or are the messages coming from some kind of strange etheric space in between? The rational self has no way of controlling the outcome, so what comes through is something else altogether.

In other words, I think that the very randomness of throwing coins IS the medium of expression for this voice of wisdom. Here too our rational minds have no control over the outcome, thus the medium is quite beyond our closed circuit, critically defining, restricted concept of self. So then, as natural as water flowing down hill communication occurs to fill this gap. Why? Because consciousness is everywhere, and we are asking for a response. To my way of thinking there can be no other truly solid explanation for this.

-- Joseph
 
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