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Dear masters out there, i asked Yi when clarity of industry and job for career change and when this will happen. Yi answer, 17.3.4.5.6 to 22.


May any kind soul with i ching mastery shed some light to my dull mind? Thank you
 

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Hello,
22 "grace - beauty" could be the image that needs to take shape – the idea of your career development that you need to bring to life.
17 is "the hunter – you" who starts hunting in the right direction – line 5 – to reach what might suit you perfectly.
The other lines are the steps to take : leave the situations that are no longer suitable, use the assets you still have in this job, to move on to another stage line 6,
It's up to you to follow the right influence 17.5, your good idea, your good inspiration, your plan 🌺
 

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Dear friend, may I recommend to you that when you ask the Yi Jing, try to ask in such a way that you can relate to the answer. If you ask "when", and yet don't have any method to measure time, for example, through hexagrams, you are only making the answer more difficult to interpret for yourself.
Moving on, you got 4 moving lines. That is a lot of movement. Usually, when you have a preponderance of moving lines, it might help either to look at the unchanging lines, either to look at the change as a whole, without paying attention to each individual line, either to read through the lines and see which one resonates with you. It's up to you to choose how to deal with that.
Remember: the Yi works as a mirror. The answer usually tends to be a reflection of your own spiritual state. If you have 4 questions in your mind, and you ask the Yi to respond to all of them in a single throw, the result might be pretty puzzling. Try to separate your concerns, and make individual throws for each one of them, that might help you understand better.
And, last but not least, it is of utmost importance that you try to preserve a calm and focused mind when you invoke the hexagram. Keep your mind focused on the question you are asking, and take your time to make each movement the invocation needs. Each coin toss is important. I, personally, do not count (given I use coins, which I usually don't) any throws in which a coin goes out of the surface I'm using, or any toss when coins remain one on top of eachother. And, to close this part, I strongly recommend using yarrow stalks or sticks of any kind instead of coins. The answer is usually much more profound and on spot, while coins tend to remain at a superficial level.

About the result of your hexagram, I should ask if you are willing to give some extra information on what career you want to leave and which one you want to move to. I can only say, that it might work out for you: the 3 top lines are mutating, which means that something exterior is completely shifting its nature to its opposite. Plus, the third line, which is the line of action, of advancing. I would say you read the 3rd line, and reflect on it, for it is the only changing line in the bottom trigram, and it is the one on which you have most influence upon. Answer might be there.
 

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And, last but not least, it is of utmost importance that you try to preserve a calm and focused mind when you invoke the hexagram.
No it isn't necessary to 'preserve calm' at all. Yi can answer when you are in any state of mind indeed better when one is aroused in my experience.
 

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No it isn't necessary to 'preserve calm' at all. Yi can answer when you are in any state of mind indeed better when one is aroused in my experience.
To be moved by something doesn't mean one can't proceed slowly. I don't mean one shouldn't consult when one has strong feelings, on the contrary, the best moments are those in which we are lost, for the answer becomes much more clear, compensating our inner confusion. But even so, if one doesn't adopt a receptive state of mind, by moving slowly, it is harder to receive the message the Yi gives us. In my experience, when I "just throws the coins" hastily and in a rush, I tend to get readings with a lot of movement, that precisely end up expressing my state of mind, but give no clear answer.

edit: And no, its not necessary, each person asks how each person likes. But that doesn't invalidates a friendly advice.
 
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from my experience, when asking a "when" question,
without using any calendars, or systems,
an intelligible answer comes that says something like:
It can/will happen when... this thing happens.
or that thing comes to pass, or when you do this thing....etc
I think your reading falls into this category.


What industries are you interested in?
There is a lot of info in your reading.
Where does Following and Adornment/Beauty come in?
Do you know someone you consider excellent?
that it would be good to follow?
who is the man to follow and who is the boy to stop following?


You are the only one who knows all the people and variables in your life.
So, you may indeed be the only person who can answer this one.
Just like I am the only one who knows the specific people and things my own readings refer to.

good luck.
 

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Thank you all for sharing but honestly i don’t really have clarity of which boy not to follow and which man to follow now. Maybe boy is a metaphor for my current industry which i know i do not want to follow but i do not have clarity of the “man” which Yi is trying to guide my dull mind…
 

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Hi Happymoi,

Maybe the reading focuses on your motivation, your state of mind. Don't be childish, be serious, follow those who are doing what really is interesting for you. A career change can be made if you dedicate yourself to what you think and feel is worthwile.

Also, in 17 you have to wait for a clear sign to follow. There is no rush. Best to meditate on what you want to follow!

All the best,
Mandarine_23
 

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