Best path for reversing a medical condition - 57:4.6 <> 28.

[my_key]

Hi All

I have a medical condition that has been with me for a few years now and has become increasingly troublesome this year. The condition is reversable, over a period of time, and having consulted medical professionals I have a number of options for treatment and lessening of the troublesome symptoms open to me. Ideally the direction I want to go in is to address the root cause rather than just apply a sticking plaster over the symptoms.

I asked Yi today:
Which path do I need to take to give me the best chance to reverse (my illness)?

The cast gave a reply of 57: 4.6 <> 28

I like the idea of my condition being seen in a context of my ridgepole sagging, and I can certainly relate to that at the moment. Equally I'm encouraged to have my best path seen as being one akin to gentle, flowing adaptability by taking a path that is following of the wind. I must admit I was hoping for an answer that was a little less vague.

I have made some other notes from the reading, however I would like to hear what anyone else might like to contribute from their perspective in order to expose me to wider insights. This, for me, does not appear as an obvious and clear response and it might be that I am so deep in the forest with this situation that I am unable to discern clearly the wood from the trees.

At the moment I am refraining from asking any supporting / follow up questions until I am clearer around my understanding of this inquiry and have composed some sort of picture of the 'best path' that rests comfortably with me.

Many thanks for any assistance volunteered.

Take Care

 

[Hans_K]

Hi My_key,

H57 is double Wind or Wood. It is the hexagram of gentleness, growing and probing.
The text of the Judgement advises seeing the great man and the text of the Image says:
"Thus the superior person
Spreads his commands widely,
Motivates activity and influences events."
Together, this conjures up the image of someone making it clear in communication with a professional (doctor?) what he does and does not want, what his terms are.

Wind above turns into Lake. This is about doubting and delaying making a decision (which is essentially what your question is about, not knowing the best path). Lake gives the advice to communicate openly and clearly, with others or someone else. This communication produces an image or idea of a solution.
The moving yin in the 4th position asks you to let choices be determined not by others or the environment, but from your own wishes and needs. In other words, in communicating with others, you eventually have to make a choice that feels right for you.
The text of the 4th line says: "Regrets vanish. During the hunt Three kinds of game are caught".
You could interpret this text as looking for a solution and finding one.

The moving yang line at the 6th position shows that once a choice has been made then leave it to the doctors or those treating you. Still wanting to exert influence puts the treatment at "risk" or has a detrimental effect.
The text of this line says: "Penetration under the bed. He loses his property and his ax. Perseverance brings misfortune."
The property and ax are fundamental necessities that are lost when too much influence is exerted.

Based on this interpretation, the advice seems to be to engage with others and make a choice, based on all the information, what feels best for you. Perhaps the emphasis here is on doing it together with others.

I hope you can get some use out of it and good luck with the recovery.
As always, take what resonates and leave the rest

 

[rosada]

Would your condition be something that might respond well to red light therapy? 56. The Wanderer suggests skimming the surface then 57. suggests going over the same territory but this cycle going a little deeper. This gives me the idea that some healing technique that goes deeper into your body might be helpful.
57.4 suggests the healing technique you use might help the condition you are focusing on but also have other positive benefits, and unexpected benefits is something red light therapy is known for and 57.6 describes not trying to do too much at once and red light therapy is something you do for only a few minutes each day.
You can get red light therapy equipment from Amazon.

 

[my_key]

Hi Hans

H57 is double Wind or Wood. It is the hexagram of gentleness, growing and probing.
The text of the Judgement advises seeing the great man and the text of the Image says:
"Thus the superior person
Spreads his commands widely,
Motivates activity and influences events."
Together, this conjures up the image of someone making it clear in communication with a professional (doctor?) what he does and does not want, what his terms are.

This is very much how I saw the image - advocating that I impose a direction on things. My communication at my last appointment with the consultant was clear, although not well received as it did not fit the comfy template of a western medical model. I did compromise a tad as I did not want to completely burn any bridges that would remove further blood tests and treatments I am happy to engage with from the go forward plan.

Wind above turns into Lake. This is about doubting and delaying making a decision (which is essentially what your question is about, not knowing the best path).

I'm not sure I have delayed the decision as such. My decision was probably made in the consultation, when the consultant gave me numerous smug grins when I offered my ideal way forward, minimalising the use of medications. Currently waiting for consultant letters to wing their way to GP, so I'm using this time to research a bit more thoroughly to ensure that I am ultra clear on how I'd like this fresh start to take form.

Lake gives the advice to communicate openly and clearly, with others or someone else. This communication produces an image or idea of a solution.

I certain hold that image now.

The moving yin in the 4th position asks you to let choices be determined not by others or the environment, but from your own wishes and needs. In other words, in communicating with others, you eventually have to make a choice that feels right for you.
The text of the 4th line says: "Regrets vanish. During the hunt Three kinds of game are caught".
You could interpret this text as looking for a solution and finding one.

There is a strong sense within me of the way I am choosing is best for me. My interpretation place a heavy onus on intuition playing a large part in the balancing tof the decision making process.

The moving yang line at the 6th position shows that once a choice has been made then leave it to the doctors or those treating you. Still wanting to exert influence puts the treatment at "risk" or has a detrimental effect.
The text of this line says: "Penetration under the bed. He loses his property and his ax. Perseverance brings misfortune."
The property and ax are fundamental necessities that are lost when too much influence is exerted.

Yes, 57.6 can be tricky to see into - or at least for me.. My take was that after I have made my decision my job is to stay out of the way, thus allowing the treatment to take it's course. Trust the process and keep a watching brief. If I interfere, as has been my wont in the past on many occasions, then perseverance of this historical-based type will not be beneficial.

Based on this interpretation, the advice seems to be to engage with others and make a choice, based on all the information, what feels best for you. Perhaps the emphasis here is on doing it together with others.

I feel my approach is one of engaging with others. GP's and Consultants on a formal footing, books, websites, You Tube (with caution); national charities specialising in the condition. family and even Clarity members.

I feel comforted that your perspective has aligned well with my interpretation. The major take I had was more about the context in which my question is held, which is one of standing alone without fear and that in this situation it's ok to withdraw from holding more established world views without doubting myself. If I put a lid on what is bubbling up from inside then that is not authentic behaviour.

Thanks
Take Care

 

[my_key]

Hi Rosada

Would your condition be something that might respond well to red light therapy? 56. The Wanderer suggests skimming the surface then 57. suggests going over the same territory but this cycle going a little deeper. This gives me the idea that some healing technique that goes deeper into your body might be helpful.

Hmmm....that's interesting tell me more!

57.4 suggests the healing technique you use might help the condition you are focusing on but also have other positive benefits, and unexpected benefits is something red light therapy is known for and 57.6 describes not trying to do too much at once and red light therapy is something you do for only a few minutes each day.

I am a walking example of many conditions that would benefit from deeper support. My condition that the question focuses on is specifically gout. but I also have arthritis that has been playing second fiddle this year. Both relate to inflammation which I have researched does respond well to red light.
I have had red light therapy as part of treatment by an acupuncturist when working on gut issues and there are other conditions that I have that have also been reported to respond well to red light.

It is a slow and gentle treatment when used properly and could help me in all sorts of ways. So your intuitive interpretation looks to have hit the nail on the head.

You can get red light therapy equipment from Amazon.

I have been looking on Amazon and the price ranges from dirt cheap to over £1000. The top slot will be outside of my budget and I'm always wary of buying anything dirt cheap, If the price is to good to be true then normally the product does not carry any truth either.

Do you have any experience with this therapy or are you able to point me towards the type of equipment that would be most beneficial for me? Happy for you to pm me, if you feel you would like to, rather than hijack this thread onto a topic that is not about the content of the reading.

Thanks once again for your very clear insights around my health issue.

Take Care

 

[marybluesky]

Which path do I need to take to give me the best chance to reverse (my illness)? The cast gave a reply of 57: 4.6 <> 28
57.4 says regrets pass, you'll find three kinds of game. For me three "games" (as well as three foxes in 40.2) refer to means to reach your goal. 57.6 says don't try to bring all hidden truths into the light to the point of missing out on what you can practically do at the moment. It will be too much (28). The main 57 indicates a slow, steady path.

 

[my_key]

Hi Mary
Thanks for you contribution to my reading. I've been taking a bit of time to mull over what you have highlighted. I am certain that you have reinforced key elements of the reading that I have glossed over when making my own notes.

57.4 says regrets pass, you'll find three kinds of game. For me three "games" (as well as three foxes in 40.2) refer to means to reach your goal.

When I looked at this line I had taken it purely as a positive affirmation of success just by reading 'remorse vanishes' and had completely passed by the reference to the 3 game.

Checking out some of the commentaries it seems that the game caught in the hunt were either used for honouring spirit through sacrifice; honouring guests through special feasting and honouring the everyday things in life through just eating them in a normal meal. So this conveys a sense of making full use of the resources that I propose to catch.

Additionally my attention was drawn to the number 3. Specifically to how few three things are. My tendency can be to throw everything at a problem apart from the kitchen sink so here in this situation it could be saying less is more, and to reach my goal my focus needs to be on maximising the beneficial actions from just 3 approaches / treatments. A cautionary note identifying that too many cooks may spoil the broth.

57.6 says don't try to bring all hidden truths into the light to the point of missing out on what you can practically do at the moment. It will be too much (28). The main 57 indicates a slow, steady path.

This could relate to comments about the 3 game as if I spread my resources too thinly, trying to address every 'hidden truth' then I will lose what I have already accumulated (wealth) and the power to act in the way I would most like. In line 6 resides the sage and there is also a sense of the consequences of exceeding limits in this position, perhaps unseen or unacknowledged limits, which when exceeded only misfortune follows. Taking an holistic approach would be ok. However, pressing blindly on at a rate of knots when circumstances are telling another story would be foolhardy. As you so rightly say I am being guided to take "a slow, steady path".

Thank you once again.

Take care

 

[ontheroad]

Hi my_key
Lovely to have you ask for assistance for a change!!
However, how awful to have such a debilitating condition.
You know me I don't really go in depth with my interpretations but I think....
Line 4 - there's 3 different resources you could use at the same time.
Line 6 - don't give up on finding the root cause although it may take time.

For years I've been trying to find the root cause of my migraines and whilst some things have worked temporarily, nothing has worked consistently.
I started using Tissue Salts last December and they've helped a lot so now I'm studying them to become a consultant. They're homeopathic.
However they hadn't sorted it completely and I continued to seek the root cause because it was hit and miss with the migraines.
Then!! I was reading one of my reference books and it mentioned, for one tissue salt to be highly effective, you need to take this other one with it, so I did. It changed everything and not one even mild headache since.
The root cause is a lack of oxygen in my endocrine system.
Hopefully you have the same success.

 

[my_key]

Hi ontheroad

Lovely to have you ask for assistance for a change!!
However, how awful to have such a debilitating condition.

Life can become a bit of a confusion for everyone at times. The secret I have learnt is to not be afraid to ask for help when I get in a bit of a tangle.
My condition certainly is debilitating when the flare-ups occur at other times management is of the condition keeps it in reasonable bounds of discomfort.

You know me I don't really go in depth with my interpretations but I think....
Line 4 - there's 3 different resources you could use at the same time.
Line 6 - don't give up on finding the root cause although it may take time.

Short and sweet interpretations work for me too. Yours adds weight to what others have also indicated. Second, third or even fourth opinions help to support new, and appropriate, patterns of thinking into my head.
From a holistic perspective, I have settled on a couple of ways to address matters, however the 3rd has not yet come clearly to me. I am certainly mindful now that there is a need to keep things simple and that the changes I am looking for are unlikely to come swiftly.

It may be No3 comes out of further research just as your boosting of the effectiveness of the tissue salt came to you 'out of nowhere'. I certainly hope that my experience echoes the success you have had with reducing your migraines.

Thank you for sharing what you saw in my divination.

Take Care.

 

[ontheroad]

There are Tissue Salts for both conditions you have. They deal with the root cause of our dis-ease in the body.

 

[my_key]

Thanks ontheroad I'd not appreciated that from your first post. I'll take a look into it.

 

[rosada]

Check out Bengsproducts.com if you are in England or Bengs products.com.USA if you are in the states. He has two products I think are miraculous - Restore and Renew. (I don’t have any experience with the others)

 

[my_key]

Check out Bengsproducts.com if you are in England or Bengs products.com.USA if you are in the states. He has two products I think are miraculous - Restore and Renew. (I don’t have any experience with the others)

Thanks Rosada I'll take a look.