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I know there are practitioners that use the lunar-solar calendar for Liu Yao divination while other use the solar calendar. In practice I think it doesn't really matter which calendar you use - since the method uses randomness, synchronicity or whatever you want to call it I think/believe your choice for the calendar will be incorporated in the answer. Personally I use the solar calendar. Not because it is more accurate but simply because Liu Yao/Wenwang Gua divination is based on the Bagong 八宮 system as described by Jing Fang in his Yizhuan 易傳. At the last hexagram Jing Fang says:
立春正月,節在寅,《坎》卦初六,立秋同用。雨水正月中在丑,《巽》卦初六,處暑同用。驚蟄二月節在子,《震》卦初九,白露同用。春分二月中在亥,《兌》卦九四,春秋分同用。清明三月節在戌,《艮》卦六四,寒露同用。穀雨三月中在酉,《離》卦九四,霜降同用。立夏四月節在申,《坎》卦六四,立冬同用。小滿四月中在未,《巽》卦六四,小雪同用。芒種五月節在午,《乾》宮九四,大雪同用。夏至五月中在巳,《兌》宮初九,冬至同用。小暑六月節在辰,《艮》宮初六,小寒同用。大暑六月中在卯,《離》宮初九,大寒同用。
When Jing Fang mentions the first month (正月) he explicitly refers to the solar calendar. If the solar calendar is the foundation for Liu Yao/WWG I think I should also use the solar calendar for the determination of the bazi for the day of casting.
For those who understand Wen Wen Gua, I have a doubt that I cannot clarify based on what I have read from the different sources (mostly forums and blogs, also books). It is presumed that the True Solar Time should be used for both the different WWG divination methods (BaZi, Liu Yao, Jing Fang, Najia, etc.) since these people claim that the Chinese lunar calendar is inconsistent and has changed over time. I understand that the only way to obtain the 10 heavenly stems and the 12 earthly branches is through the Chinese Lunar Calendar (luni-solar calendar), since these concepts are intrinsic to Chinese astrology. Or I'm wrong?
In addition it is necessary to bear in mind that WWG is related to the theory of the five elements, and lunar calendar is the reference for it.
Normally the sequence to calculate the data in WWG consists of:
1. Take the data of the local solar date: year, month, day and time of the moment in which the query is made (local solar time)
2. Calculate True Solar Time.
2. Calculate solar date in China (adapt the Local solar time to Chinese time)
3. Search for the lunar data corresponding to the Chinese solar date obtained: stem and branch of year, stem and branch of month, stem and branch of day. (and in some cases branch of time).
Then if we need the Chinese lunar calendar and these experts say that this calendar is inconsistent, are the results obtained in the consultation reliable or not??? I am very confused about it.
Celestial Stems
1. jiǎ,
2. yǐ,
3. bǐng,
4. dīng
5. wù
6. jǐ
7. gēng
8. xīn
9. rén
10. guǐ
Earthly Branchs
1. zǐ
2. chǒu
3. yín
4. mǎo
5. chén
6. sì
7. wǔ
8. wèi
9. shēn
10. yǒu
11. xū
12. hài
Ehrm...by using a solar calendar? https://www.yjcn.nl/wp/download/2610/And in the case that one decides to use solar time, how are we supposed to assign Heavenly stems and Earthly branchs to each year, month and day?
That is not different from the solar calendar but because the months are determined in a different way there will be differences.The luni-solar calendar (Sexagenary cycle = ganzhi) associates for each year, month and day a heavenly stem and a earthly branch.
A site that describes a lunar date as 'July 24, Ji Hai (Pig) Year (2019)' sounds unreliable to me. What the site means of course is that it is the 7th lunar month.I follow the Chinese Farmer's Almanac calendar (Tung Shing or Tung Shu). Some applications and software are wrong in the calculations of Stem/branch pair. I use this: https://www.yourchineseastrology.com/calendar/
Ex. today 08/24/2019 is
Lunar date: July 24, Ji Hai (Pig) Year (2019)
stem and branch of day: Gui Si
stem and branch of the month: Ren Shen
stem and branch of the year: Ji Hai
If we do not take into account the lunar calendar and follow the solar calendar, what stem/branch pair should we assign to year, month and day corresponding to 08/24/2019?
Clarity,
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